Inspired by a conversation with blackforest_360, I was thinking about degrees of change and reading about the Ship of Theseus.
The Ship of Theseus is a paradox. It went something like this: is a ship which has been redone, all of its wood replaced, still the same ship?
Are you the same person you were a day ago, a year ago, five years ago?
There is a definite line when you restore old stuff. If you are able to preserve certain percentage of original structure then it's restoration, or not. When you go and sell restored cars. The value is determined by how much of the original material your were able to preserve.
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Ah value, so it is important to preserve something, to allow change but stop shy of transformation.
The BBC had an interesting series on transformation in the animal kingdom. Metamorphosis of caterpillars into butterflies, tadpoles into frogs, that kind of thing. It's almost a little frightening actually, how one thing can become something else entirely.
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Nah........
The ups n downs n the tests of life change us, our behavior everything with the time!
Plus the experiences of life change us too.
I dnt think I m the same person, I was 5 years ago!
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Inspired by a conversation with blackforest_360, I was thinking about degrees of change and reading about the Ship of Theseus.
The Ship of Theseus is a paradox. It went something like this: is a ship which has been redone, all of its wood replaced, still the same ship?
Are you the same person you were a day ago, a year ago, five years ago?
If all of the parts are 'changed' then it's not the same....neither physically nor structurally.
Word 'change' in above sentence is misnomer/incorrect. Correct word should be "replaced".
Your next line in bold has nothing to do with first line. Two different scenarios.
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If all of the parts are 'changed' then it's not the same....neither physically nor structurally.
Word 'change' in above sentence is misnomer/incorrect. Correct word should be "replaced".
Your next line in bold has nothing to do with first line. Two different scenarios.
I think he is rite,i also didn't find any connection between these 2....if ur talkin abt change,den offcourse ppl changes with the passage of tym,sometimes lil things brought a big change in human behavior..or insan to itni taizi se change hota hai subah aur,sham ko aur...!!
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I think he is rite,i also didn't find any connection between these 2....!
:)
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. Nah........ The ups n downs n the tests of life change us, our behavior everything with the time! Plus the experiences of life change us too.
I dnt think I m the same person, I was 5 years ago!
What happened to the guy/gal you were five years ago? Where did he/she go?
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If all of the parts are 'changed' then it's not the same....neither physically nor structurally.
Okay, excellent. I think I'm more in favour of it still being the same ship.
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Word 'change' in above sentence is misnomer/incorrect. Correct word should be "replaced".
Your next line in bold has nothing to do with first line. Two different scenarios.
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Nope, I was definitely thinking about degrees of change. If I wanted degrees of change and the ship of theseus to be a singular thought I would have worded it as 'degrees of change within the context of the ship of theseus'.
Connections are often a matter of perspective. I didn't share what connections I was thought-exploring (it's a real term, ahem) because part of the point of the thread is to see if others make the same connections. You don't, that's fine, respond (if you so wish) to whichever scenario you want.
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I think he is rite,i also didn't find any connection between these 2....if ur talkin abt change,den offcourse ppl changes with the passage of tym,sometimes lil things brought a big change in human behavior..or insan to itni taizi se change hota hai subah aur,sham ko aur...!!
Hi Khubsoorat,
Insaan tezi se change hota hai, lekhin kuch hai joh change nahin hota?
New cells, new hair, new skin, new thoughts, new knowledge, new skills, new experiences, everything changes or is (for Diwana's benefit) replaced, but what remains the same? What connects the boy of yesterday to the man of today?
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Hi Khubsoorat, Insaan tezi se change hota hai, lekhin kuch hai joh change nahin hota? New cells, new hair, new skin, new thoughts, new knowledge, new skills, new experiences, everything changes or is (for Diwana's benefit) replaced, but what remains the same? What connects the boy of yesterday to the man of today?
hmmm i think i got ur point,everything gets change with tym n circumstances,but experiences remains there..sometyms hmari life mein kuch aisay incidents ron'ama hotay hain jo hmaray dil pay mapped ho jatay hain,phir un hadsaat se jo cheez hum learn krty hain woh kabi b nhi bhul patay,woh hmaray sath sath present n future ka hissa bnti chali jati hai..so i think achay or buray experiences he hain jo insan na to bhula skta hai or yehi past ko future k sath connect rakhtay hain..
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^ Exactly. Our journey, hamara safar.
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As we grow older, our individuality is stripped from us and we unknowingly start cconforming.
Intriguing thread. But were not ships we have souls that remain unchanged:)
(except for the bitter petty people)
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^ <3
The older we get the more investments we acquire. Education/career/family/relationships/offspring/a particular lifestyle. They are hostages to fortune. We do what we can to protect them, and that can include conforming.
I like to think that ships have souls of their own too. The Ship of Theseus has its own story; it carried the founder of Athens. With each replaced plank a piece of authenticity is lost, but for as long as the name remains so does the story.