Traditionally iv always been frustrated by clear contradictions in terms of peoples actions regarding faith…for me i felt that if one was to do something they should do it properly…
So the kid of people that annoyed me is the guy that fasted but linked his girl after dark…a girl at my uni who wears hijab but dates a Sikh guy…Hijabis at clubs for instance…
I remember one specific example i used which was the guy who came clubbing with us and took a break and went somewhere to do his Salah and returned…this for me was a ridiculous contradiction…can you honestly sleep with your missus, do your ghusl and then pray Salah?..
Well i met some old friends i havent seen for a while and when they did Salah i refused to join the Jamaat…it became a topic of conversation obviously afterwards and i was given the strict understanding that if you do anything then you should atleast pray your Salah…the guy who came clubbing with us is a better man cos he atleast prayed his Salah…the fornicator is less sinful if he does his Salah atleast…by ackowledging that you struggle with your faith doesnt mean that you shouldnt do anything as such but you should do what you can and do it with sincerity…
I was given the understanding that if there is one thing you should hold onto then it is your Salah…focussing on other sins and deciding to do nothing cos you cant deal with the inherent contradictions in your actions doesnt serve a purpose…
Is this a corrct understanding?..Will Allah honestly look at the guy who fornicates with some chick, does his ghusl…does his Isha…fornicates again…does ghusl and then does his Fajr with less disdain then the guy who doesnt pray at all?..
Traditionally iv always been frustrated by clear contradictions in terms of peoples actions regarding faith...for me i felt that if one was to do something they should do it properly...
So the kid of people that annoyed me is the guy that fasted but linked his girl after dark...a girl at my uni who wears hijab but dates a Sikh guy...Hijabis at clubs for instance...
I remember one specific example i used which was the guy who came clubbing with us and took a break and went somewhere to do his Salah and returned...this for me was a ridiculous contradiction...can you honestly sleep with your missus, do your ghusl and then pray Salah?...
Well i met some old friends i havent seen for a while and when they did Salah i refused to join the Jamaat...it became a topic of conversation obviously afterwards and i was given the strict understanding that if you do anything then you should atleast pray your Salah...the guy who came clubbing with us is a better man cos he atleast prayed his Salah...the fornicator is less sinful if he does his Salah atleast...by ackowledging that you struggle with your faith doesnt mean that you shouldnt do anything as such but you should do what you can and do it with sincerity...
I was given the understanding that if there is one thing you should hold onto then it is your Salah...focussing on other sins and deciding to do nothing cos you cant deal with the inherent contradictions in your actions doesnt serve a purpose...
Is this a corrct understanding?...Will Allah honestly look at the guy who fornicates with some chick, does his ghusl...does his Isha...fornicates again...does ghusl and then does his Fajr with less disdain then the guy who doesnt pray at all?...
It is for Allah to decide as Allah knows wat lies in their hearts...:)...
The thing is for others to not follow ..The hadees I think is that if u see something wrong tryto stop it with your hands , if u cant then stop it with your words...if u cant then in your mind deem it wrong.
Traditionally iv always been frustrated by clear contradictions in terms of peoples actions regarding faith...for me i felt that if one was to do something they should do it properly...
So the kid of people that annoyed me is the guy that fasted but linked his girl after dark...a girl at my uni who wears hijab but dates a Sikh guy...Hijabis at clubs for instance...
I remember one specific example i used which was the guy who came clubbing with us and took a break and went somewhere to do his Salah and returned...this for me was a ridiculous contradiction...can you honestly sleep with your missus, do your ghusl and then pray Salah?...
Well i met some old friends i havent seen for a while and when they did Salah i refused to join the Jamaat...it became a topic of conversation obviously afterwards and i was given the strict understanding that if you do anything then you should atleast pray your Salah...the guy who came clubbing with us is a better man cos he atleast prayed his Salah...the fornicator is less sinful if he does his Salah atleast...by ackowledging that you struggle with your faith doesnt mean that you shouldnt do anything as such but you should do what you can and do it with sincerity...
I was given the understanding that if there is one thing you should hold onto then it is your Salah...focussing on other sins and deciding to do nothing cos you cant deal with the inherent contradictions in your actions doesnt serve a purpose...
Is this a corrct understanding?...Will Allah honestly look at the guy who fornicates with some chick, does his ghusl...does his Isha...fornicates again...does ghusl and then does his Fajr with less disdain then the guy who doesnt pray at all?...
Brother you need to make new friends....some good ones.
Hareem...
In their case they actually practice...they dont suggest that its ok to do one thing and not another but thats its better to do one thing and not another than to see contradictions and irony and therefore do nothing at all...
Ask99...
That makes sense...but the issue isnt one of others its my own...i would generally feel uncomfortable with doing salah after seeing a girl because i feel it is a contradiction...i dont lack faith i just see it as disrespectful to pray after doing something i shouldnt do...my faith tend to impact how i judge right and wrong whilst my own needs and weaknesses tend to determine how i deal with them and mainly they are dealt with incorrectly...
In an ideal world where i was a bit stronger i obviously wouldnt commit the sin in the first place but im wondering whether one can honestly do salah after say they have committed zina or is a complete disrepect to Allah to do something he approves of and actively follow it up with something he disapproves of?...
Ask99...
That makes sense...but the issue isnt one of others its my own...i would generally feel uncomfortable with doing salah after seeing a girl because i feel it is a contradiction...i dont lack faith i just see it as disrespectful to pray after doing something i shouldnt do...my faith tend to impact how i judge right and wrong whilst my own needs and weaknesses tend to determine how i deal with them and mainly they are dealt with incorrectly...
In an ideal world where i was a bit stronger i obviously wouldnt commit the sin in the first place but im wondering whether one can honestly do salah after say they have committed zina or is a complete disrepect to Allah to do something he approves of and actively follow it up with something he disapproves of?...
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U know after reading your response..I can tell that your reasoning is telling that what was done was wrong...but the thing is ...when u think that one does something wrong(zinna for example)...and then is remorseful as feeling guilt...and basically repenting it in one's heart...and tehn offering Namaz...but if one follows the same deed again...CHOOSING to do so rather then being swept away in it...U know I am not a scholar or something...and i do believe that everyone has like their own personal truth...basically Th e reasoning behind their actions...but as far as I can do...either if its like a problem that there isnt much control over(sex addiction or something)...or making an Informed decision...the reprecussions r for the person to deal with ...If he does offer Namaz...it is between him and Allah...Allah knows why he is doing that...U know even the dekhawe wali Namaz...Also one benefit of sustaining Namaz during such times may be that sooner or later it may wash his this barrier in his thinking....it may open up his mind...!!do u agree with that? u know doing something out of habit may one day become an "a-haa" moment:)
Anyway...more often then not...so many people pick and choose wat they like in their religion...its like some r willing to drink Alcohol...while if offered pork..they say no!..its Haraam!! and then there r some that put the "haraam" label on anything moving:)..as to speak...
Practice makes perfect … I’m sure you have heard of that. If you indulge in more bad habits you will eventually attain close perfection in them and the same goes for good habits, the more you do them the better you get. If you are avoiding doing good because you do bad, that is no justification to not try to make yourself better.
There are only two sides of a scale i.e. negative (bad) and positive (good). With each bad deed to go farther on the negative scale and with each good deed to farther on the positive scale. Its up to you which side you want to be on. And regardless of which side you end up on you will not get there without trying.
Your guilt (or the contradiction you feel in your actions) will eventually change into appreciation once you’ve tried enough times and succeeded to shed your bad habits. The key is your conscience, you should know when you do good or bad, why you do it. You do good because you believe that is what Allah SWT wants from you and you do bad because you are tempted by the Shaitan. Try your best to serve Allah SWT not the Shaitan. When you do good its the Shaitan that whispers to you and makes you feel as if you are guilty and there is a contradiction, fight your nafs. How can doing something that Allah SWT requires of us ever be worthless or bad.
I see what you're getting at...and it's tricky. On the one hand I think you have a point...but on the other, what good is feeling guilty over a sin if one isn't going to take action on it?
If being a habitual sinner is simply reflective of one not taking any steps to repent (with the assumption that one can't repent without at least making an effort to stop sinning), then what is the point?
I think if a person has no intent to stop sinning, then they're simply being hypocrites.
Is this a corrct understanding?...Will Allah honestly look at the guy who fornicates with some chick, does his ghusl...does his Isha...fornicates again...does ghusl and then does his Fajr with less disdain then the guy who doesnt pray at all?...
Look at it this way--sinning does not absolve you from your salaat. A person who is committing whatever sins will be accountable for them. If a person is sinning and he performs his salaat, he will at least be absolved for his salaat while remaining accountable for his other sins. If a person commits other AND forgoes salaat, he will be accountable for whatever other sins he commits as well as being accountable for neglecting his salaat. Saying that one doesn't have to pray salaat just because one also commits such and such sin is just wrong. One should instead make concern of both improving his salaat as well as abstaining from his sins.
I read somewhere in a book that if you can't stop sining then dont stop the salat or any good doing either. There will come a day when satan will tire of luring you towards evil but Allah never tires of forgiving. As long as you are alive the doors are open.
That being said man is known by the company he keeps. Dont hate the wrong doers, hate the wrong doings. So try to keep good company. But in my opinion if everybody set up the religion on pedestal saying if i can't follow it all i shouldnt bother at all then there would hardly be any muslims left in the world.
