Well this sucks. Make way for the Taliban in a few years.
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Looks pretty bad. And think about what will happen if and when the US packs its bags and leaves. Then, it will be truly OUR WAT...
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So after almost 10 years of killings, with all those latest war-technologies, with all the satellites and getting real-time images... the only gain is... blood of hundred of thousands of people of Afghanistan.. who literally did nothing.... and Osama/Al-Qaida still is out on run.. maybe looking forward to get another million or so....
anyway brief history of US's war after WWII
1950's Korean war
1960-70's Veitnam war
1980 Russian in Afghanistan
1990's Iraq War
2000's Iraq & Afghanistan War...
2010 ???
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So after almost 10 years of killings, with all those latest war-technologies, with all the satellites and getting real-time images... the only gain is... blood of hundred of thousands of people of Afghanistan.. who literally did nothing.... and Osama/Al-Qaida still is out on run.. maybe looking forward to get another million or so....
anyway brief history of US's war after WWII
1950's Korean war 1960-70's Veitnam war 1980 Russian in Afghanistan 1990's Iraq War 2000's Iraq & Afghanistan War... 2010 ???
Exactly. And now they will just go back and leave Pakistan to clean up the mess. Or maybe keep some bases in safe areas like Kabul and throw the rest of the country to the dogs. Same with the Iraq war. Achieved their goals of setting an example and opening up the Iraqi oil markets. And now they are leaving a power vacuum that will soon lead to Iraq getting trapped in a vicious circle of political instability and military coups.
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Actually if they leave and let Pakistan clean it, it would be good for Pakistan's security... .Pakistan has done relatively better when there is no foreign troops in Afghanistan and has suffered big time like in 80s when Russians were there and now when Americans are there....
As far as Iraq is concerned, although it is not any more of Media's interest, but the situation is much worse their and as you rightly said, violence/military coup is very much on cards with corrupt politicians not willing to give up powers not abiding the law of the land... more unrest is going to claim more lives.... not only that, Saudies are their to back the sunni minority... Iranians are busy arming and supporting Shia groups... Kurds are all set to get themselves a state of their own... a bloody civil war between Kurds and arabs, between Shai and sunni is on...
a good market to sell conventional weapons though....
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a good market to sell conventional weapons though....
I totally missed this. You are right, now they will cover the cost of war through oil contracts and selling weapons. Needless to say, weapons are one of America's biggest exports.
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You got that right, Once US cuts and runs like it always does terror in Pak will go down may be even eleminated, Here is a good read…
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can you read? I said it is Pakistan's big daddy, which is a way of saying Pakistan needs a sponsor
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What is surprise here? US/coalition has never had full control of Afghanistan, it was mere 30-40%, there is a reason Karzai is called mayor of Kabul.
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Every country wants/needs allies, be it Pakistan or India.
But in these ever changing dynamics of world politics, overtly being dependent on a particular ally can be a problem. Infact why go near Pakistan in that regard, we indians realized it while dealing with Russia(former Soviet Union), the defense contracts were no were at those near generous prices as earlier. So self reliance is a key factor. I agree that Pakistan was kind of dependent on this whole aid thing from the US or any other country. Problem with this being, there was never a pressing need to bring those sweeping economic reforms.But the establishment in Pakistan has already realized that, and i am of the opinion that very soon they will be on a path of self reliance.
If the US leaves Pakistan, they'll just go to big daddy China...Pakistanis are too insecure to run their own country without a sponsor
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Quite the opposite will happen, if NATO/Allied forces leave, Afghanistan will be unofficially run by Pakistan.
If it wasn't for 9/11 Afghanistan would already have been Pakistan 2.
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this was meant to happen...
Quite the opposite will happen, if NATO/Allied forces leave, Afghanistan will be unofficially run by Pakistan. If it wasn't for 9/11 Afghanistan would already have been Pakistan 2.
a little correction, not Pakistan 2, actually might be a province of Pakistan, or a semi-autonomous state like AJK...