Why censorship happens in all Islamic societies? And not just under dictatorships, but also on islamic web sites like this one.
The thread on Aisha (rz) marriage to prophet and her age at the marriage was deleted. I am not sure if all the posts in the thread was violating the rules here.
How can we progress if we can not tolerate simple discussions?
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That's why I opened up that thread in feedback. There is a difference between insulting and criticizing. And if its one bad post, then remove that to review folder, instead of that whole thread.
Its such a wasted effort really. I write things here with some dil and enthusiasm, and I'm sorry, but I take out my precious time to do it. I dont like seeing things just get sweeped under the rug like this.
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Maybe you guys should put as much effort, "dil and enthusiasm" in thinking through your posts before you post them. Have you considered that some your posts may be offensive to "most" of the members here? IMHO, threads are removed when there is no valid argument is presented by either side and the purpose of the thread reduces to nothing but mudslinging.
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trash is still trash, no matter how it is produced
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This trashy message should be removed, and along with it, the whole thread, because the whole thread looks trash because of it
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Lostsoul, sometimes we forget some fact when we start critisizing. I am not taking side to any party but it is a fact that Censorship is imposed in every society in some form. you may find the difference in degree of censorship imposed but it is there. The other way to say is because we don’t exeperience it, this does not mean that it is not there. If you look arround carefully then you will be able to find it. In news reporting, in open discusions it is very well organised.
We (for most aisian, african and specially muslims) only feel more censorship because of our values and culture. Things what are allowed in westren socities are not permitted to us and same goes to expressions.
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I do not concur. There was no such extreme censorship in that forum before.
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Code-Red, I already know what your response is on this issue (mein hoon mod, aur meri chalti hai - bhas!)
I'm looking for some input from the other moderators of the forum.
I hope this becomes a discussion topic in mod forum.
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I guess censorship is just a way of keeping things in order…and i dont think its limited to Islam as such…u’ll find censorship in every society.
Discussions i agree are healthy and help u understand things better and also help in mental growth. But most of the time discussion tend to get out of hand…and end up turning into a fight…so i guess that is the reason some kind of a censorship or control becomes necessary…
i mean imagine if everyone could come and say whatever they wanted …insulting, abusing, fighting, making no sense…what kind of a forum would this turn into 
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I too would like to know why the thread on the age difference between Prophet Muhammad :saw: and Hazrat Aisha 
was removed?
When i read it last there werent any comments that were insulting to anyone.
Infact i found it to be interesting and wanted to make notes of the references and look into the matter in detail myself. But its not there anymore.
Maybe it got out of hand or something, but i too would like to know what happened…thanks
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Censorship is an attempt to impose ur opinion, and do not let anyone question it. It mostly happens in dictatorships by organized institutions.
Censorship at social level is soemthing else. You can’t say B-tch or F-uck word, or broadcast porn on broadcast TVs, because children watch them. But u can say them on Cable subscribed TV, because parents have control over them. Similarly, u can’t say bad words to a stranger on street.
Censorship by organized institutions is always wrong, and it is always resisted. People like u have been brainwashed into thinking that censorship os good for u. Thats y u oppose open discussion.
If some person has said a bad word to prophet, just to provoke ppl, we can certainly delere his message, and worst kick him out. This is not censorship. But deleting the whole thread is censorship.
When seemingly educated ppl like u support it, it feels like we r centuries behind becoming a civilized nation, where dissent and questions r welcome and encouraged.
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Who is deciding what is insult and abuse? It is some person’s decision here, never to be reviewed by anyone?
In my view, there was no insult and abuse in the deleted thread. But if someone does not like discussing a topic as sensitive as age difference b/w prophet and Aisha, and her tender age at the time of marriage, then what can be done? Is it abuse? Is it insult? if moderators r that much sensitive to this issue, probably they should leave their jobs to someone more sensible
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What is the end result of this censorship? Would ppl stop discussing this topic on internet? Search internet for this topic, and different ppl have abused the prophet in every conceivable way possible. Does this look Great? Do u want to delete these sites to? Can u? Nah,,,,,u can't.
So what is wrong with discussing the topic with rationale and arguments?
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How can we progress if we will not stop arguing and fighting on such pitty things. If hazrat Ayesha was married on 6,9,10,11.. what's the big deal about it? It is just history and sometimes you don't end up having right dates or figures the various facts that took place. So does this we are gona argue and fight over such things everyother week? Can't we just move on to something real that really needs to be address?
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It is a matter of utmost important, if Hazrat Aisha’s age is used to justify marrying small girls in Pakistan or any other islamic country.
Would u like to prosecute an old paedophile man of age 65 years old who marry girls of age less than 10? on what grounds?
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The thread is back in religion forum. Carry on with your discussion there.