Celebrating Birthdays

Celebrating birthdays has no source whatsoever in the pure shariah. In fact, it is an innovation, since the Messenger of Allah (pbuh) said,

This was recorded by both al-Bukhari and Muslim. In a version recorded by Muslim and by al-Bukhari in definitive muallaq form,

It is well-known that the prophet (pbuh) did not celebrate his birthday at all during his lifetime nor did he ever order it to be celebrated. Nor did he teach such to his Companions.
Therefore it is known from the above that such a celebration is not from the Law that Allah sent Muhammad (pbuh) with. We ask Allah, for ourselves and for all of our brethren Muslims, steadfastness upon the truth, avoiding everything that differs from Allah’s pure shariah. Verily, He is Generous and Noble.

Shaikh ibn Baz

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If you don't like Birthdays (based on cultural or religious reasons) then do not celebrate.

Remember that it is YOUR reasons, and other people may have different POV than yours. And thus it is OK for others to follow their POV, just like you should be allowed to follow your POV.

p.s. Bin Baz is one of the most controversial and extreme interpreter of Sharia. And even though he has a large following, but it does not mean 2 billion Muslims have to follow bin baz.

This means celebrating birthdays is not Sunnah, but that doesnt mean its not allowed.

Birthday has nothing to do with religion, so its not an innovation.

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Innovation or bidaat is reserved for religion not for everyday life.
Holy prophet used camel , horse and his feet to go places are you prepared to do so ?
Holy prophet never used shampoo or soap for his everyday cleaning would you stop using them ?
Holy prophet never took bath under a faucet , shower , in a bath tub would you stop doing that ?
Holy prophet never paid income tax and property tax , can you dare to refuse to pay those ?

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By celebrating birthdays you are copying the kufaar. This is haram.

Below is the origin of celebrating birthdays.

Birthday celebrations started with Pharaoh and was only mentioned in connection with Royality. Evidence of birthday observances dates back before the rise of Christianity. In pagan cultures, people feared evil spirits - especially on their birthdays. It was a common belief that evil spirits were more dangerous to a person when he or she experienced a change in their daily life, such as turning a year older. As a result, birthdays were merry occasions celebrated with family and friends, who surrounded the person of honor with laughter and joy in order to protect them from evil. Instead of gifts, most guests brought positive thoughts and happy wishes for the upcoming year. However, if well-wishers did bring gifts, it was considered an especially good influence for the birthday person.

Back in the pagan days, people worried about evil spirits. Especially when someone was about to turn a year older on their birthday. So, in order to protect the "Birthday Boy or Girl", the people decided they needed to throw a party for the person. A party that was full of laughter and merriment was sure to keep the evil spirits away!

The early Greeks are credited with inventing the "Birthday Cake." Because, they
made round cakes (to represent the moon) and took them to the temple of Artemis. Artemis was considered to be the "goddess of the moon." It's also believed the early Greeks made primitive candles out of wax. The candles were placed on the round cakes and lit to represent the glow of the moon.

SC,

why don’t you visit the following youtube link and find out for your self whether it’s sunnah or not:

The ‘Mawlid-un-Nabi’ English DVD lectures series consists of 4 DVDs consisting of 4 lectures:

Part 1: In the light of Quran and Hadith
Part 2: In the light of Quranic Interpretations
Part 3: The Concept of Qiyam and Mawlid
Part 4: Historical evidences on Mawlid & the concept of Bida’h

Mirch,

Those who are beating the drums of Biddah they are the biggest Biddati themselves, go to their houses and see for yourself and you will be shocked.

One of my mate he use to do the wallchalking against TV, Video and Radio and guess what in his own hourse he use to play indian movies.

This is one of the most wretched thread and question. And yet it finds so many supporters.

O People!

Just switch "birthday" with "cell phone" and read akri post again and you will understand how we the Muslims are using trivial things to abuse our religion.

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......[Using cell phones] has no source whatsoever in the pure shariah. In fact, it is an innovation, since the Messenger of Allah (pbuh) said,
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Whoever introduces anything into this matter of ours that does not belong to it shall have that action rejected.*

This was recorded by both al-Bukhari and Muslim. In a version recorded by Muslim and by al-Bukhari in definitive muallaq form,

It is well-known that the prophet (pbuh) did not [use cell phones] at all during his lifetime nor did he ever order it to be [used]. Nor did he teach such to his Companions.

Therefore it is known from the above that such a [use of cell phones] is not from the Law that Allah sent Muhammad (pbuh) with. We ask Allah, for ourselves and for all of our brethren Muslims, steadfastness upon the truth, avoiding everything that differs from Allah's pure shariah. Verily, He is Generous and Noble.

Shaikh fulana fulana**

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^ Mashallah this is what you application of Quran and Hadith according to your needs.

I would love to be able to.

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Arki:
Even in matter of religion we all are doing many things which are innovations , not done by Holy Prophet and not ordered by him.
1. Quran was not written on paper so it is innovation to do so.
2. Quran was not in DVD or Electronic format hence it is innovation.
3. Azzan was never said on loudspeakers and khutaba was never delivered on loudspeakers so it is innovation.
4. Many new lines were added into Azaan so it is innovation.
5. Watches and clocks were never used to determine the time of namaz and azaan so it is innovation.
6. Alarm clocks were never used to wake up for fajr namaz so it is innovation to do so.
7. The roza was never opened or started by using watches and clocks so it is innovation to do so.
8. Many many professions which are now religious professions are innovation for example paid imam and moazzans at all the masajids.
9. The ruler of the time was imaam , mufti , judge , chief of armed forces , police chief etc but now the are all professions and therefore religious innovation in a Islamic state.

How far back do you want to go back in order to avoid innovations ? You need to understand the spirit of message not the literal translation.
All the alims of all the sects pick and chose between going literal meaning of some verses and ahadees and in other case adopting the broader framework.
We the poor common folks are their pawns and follow them blindly while they enjoy their comfortable life as paid scholars on a salary from donation of common folks or from tax payer money.

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ok so i havent read any of the baove replies but i have a question, if ppl consider celebratig birthdays as haraam then why do we celebrate our holy prophets Muhammed SAW's birthday?

Those people who are against celebrating birthdays , they do not celebrate birthday of Holy Prophet (SAW) either.
They consider celebrators of birthday of Holy Prophet(SAW) innovators and worthy of jahanam/hell fire. wallah alim bis sawab.

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Prophet SAW used to fast on the monday coz he was born on the monday (from that you can conclude that he gave importance to his birth day)
And I heard somewhere that he fed the poor on his birthday

I think the question should not be if one should celebrate or not
but it should be how to celebrate without doing things against Islam

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You people really hate fun, don't you? Why does it give you so much peace to boycott everything that brings a smile to our faces?

I agree with Mirch and Burqapoashx. If you are against celebrating Birthdays, just stop using electricity, phone, cars, gas, and everything else. 'Cuz guess what?! These were all invented by the Kuffar. Go live in a desert and milk camels.

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:salam:

Normally I don’t like to comment in such threads but I find the arguments lacking in substance in either camp.

One thing that is very very fundamental that we need to come to terms with is a muslim perspective of life in the world versus a non-muslim perspective of life in the world. I think it is quite naive to just start tossing every advancement humans have made since the time of Prophet SAW or even before that into either the camp of Biddah or the either.

From the perspective of one of is muslim austerity is much valued in religion though this does not mean that one should not spend his wealth on good things in life if he is capable of. What is disliked or discouraged though is extravagance. There is nothiing in Islam against fun however it should be well-known what are the implications and consequences of establishing a tradition of fun.

For instance, I do celebrate (I don’t know if celebrate is the correct term but at least decide to do something out of the ordinary, party food and cake) for my childrens birthdays however it is confined to just the home and family. My reasons being that I want to avoid extravagance. Why do I have this perspective is because my priority in life is to please Allah SWT and I’m sure Allah SWT would be better pleased with me if I spent the money in charity or on a better purpose in life rather than on celebrating birthday bashes and let businesses profit from my moment in life. Especially when I am capable of such I should not be ignorant of it.

Non-muslims have a totally different POV in life and hereafter. In fact I would like for people in this thread advocating birthdays to give me ONE example of non-muslims who are busy with welfare and humane services that go about celebrating their birthdays or give any importance to it. Its because their priority or perspective in life though fundamentally different from a muslims is still much closer in its manifestation hence the similarity.

The problem with adapting to many non-muslim celebrations though they may no longer be in the same spirit of its origin is that gradually it affects our own perspective on life and starts to conflict with a muslims perspective. At first it may seem hamrless but in reality it causes imcremental damage which doesn’t become apparent till quite late.

My point is not to be against celebrating but knowing your limits and realizing what kind of damage is causes to your firmness in faith. If the Ulema discourage it, I am with them for the reason that it saves us from falling out of line in the long run.

^ this is the answer I was waiting for.

Good. So you are in the CBC "Celebrate Bday Camp".

Thus the bottom line is, that a CBC member should believe in personal choice in little things in our life, instead of calling Makkah Ullama and Religious Doctrine Approvers (MURDA).

You feel that CBC should confine their kids' Bday to food and cake in home and to family.
-------- GOOD....................... FOR .......................... YOU.

Another CBC member may decide to invite kids' school friends AND family too. Thus MURDA has no business in telling him/her that no you cannot invite kids' friends.

Bottom line is that we should spend our lives as ZINDA people instead of becoming MURDA.

Thank you.

:salam:

When I had mentioned posts lacking substance, you did not wait very long to demonstrate it. I think you should have read between the lines of my post.

Anyway, I think you want to highlight that you use birthdays as an event to keep up with ties of kinship. I personally don’t see any harm in it from that perspective however can you claim you do it consistently and for that reason, if not, I would definitely say you are doing it out of imitation to fit into a crowd that follows the same mentality as you.

Would you answers any of my questions truthfully should I ask more? The first being are you married and have children?

personal attacks and questions aside.

So you are a CBC or not?

What depth and breadth are you looking for? in this really personal celebration.

No need to put a green cloth of Islam or associate this with Christianity or Hinduism, or Judaism.

You guys in the USA may be doing it to “fit in”. But we in Pakistan have been celebrating birthdays for ages.

For cryin out loud, it is just a celebration. If you are CBC, Great.

If on the other hand someone has problem with the concept and they go to MURDA for advice, then good for them.

Everyone has a right to be with MURDA Klan or ZINDA group.

Thank you.