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Illegaly built mosques?
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I saw hundreds of shia's home being burnt down. Their mosques burnt down. All was done by these type of people who are now occupying the kids library in Islamabad.
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Illegaly built mosques?
To whom the land of the mosques belong?
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The governement has taken the right action. This was illegal construction + a soruce of hatred!
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I saw hundreds of shia's home being burnt down. Their mosques burnt down. All was done by these type of people who are now occupying the kids library in Islamabad.
Now please stay away from that 'shia sunnah thing'.....I don't believe in sects nor the Religion we follow allows us seperation in the muslim society. I don't know about these mosques wether they belong to shia brothers or sunnis. These are just mosques ' where people come to pray'...
I can't see how demolishing these mosques will prevent people from hating each other?
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The governement has taken the right action. This was illegal construction + a soruce of hatred!
you are again avoiding my question...I ask you again. Who actually owns the land of these mosques?
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You mean Allah? So everyone can grab land belonging to anyone in the name of Allah?
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No, you got me wrong there....
Does the property belong to Government? If yes, then the Government should not demolish or destroy the mosques.[no matter if it is a shia mosque or sunni ]
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Why should not govt demolish it?
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Without a valid reason.....Government should not demolish the mosque.
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hareem01: You have commented on my posts but have you really read my posts that you made comments? I am sure that if you read them carefully, you would realise great sin (Gunah-e-Kabira) you are doing by calling illegally constructed structure on illegally occupied government lands as Mosque.
Who told you that mosque got demolished in Pakistan? No mosque got demolished in Pakistan. Only structure that was built on illegally occupied land, and some ignorant and sinner were calling it Mosque, are getting rightly demolished.
Land of such illegally constructed structure does not belong to Allah alone. Allah is owner of that land as Allah is owner of everything, including your and mine house, thats all. Hence construction on such land is zulum on the owner of that land. These places cannot be Mosque at any cost.
Owner of land of a mosque is Allah alone as people buy or legally obtain that land (given by government for the purpose to built Mosque) and make waqf of that land in the name of Allah before constructing anything on that land, then construct mosque on the land that is waqf in the name of Allah, thus that place becomes 'House of Allah' and government becomes caretaker on behalf of Allah (as government is guarantor and caretaker of all waqf property).
The structure that is getting demolished in Pakistan are those that ignorant thieves constructed on lands that did not belong to them nor owner (Government or whoever) gave that land to them. These lands are stolen lands. Hence those construction on stolen lands is construction of zulum and those that illegally occupied that land are zalims and thieves and 'house of Allah' cannot be built on such land obtained by zulum or theft.
To call such structure on stolen land 'house of Allah' is big sin as those that call them structure 'house of Allah' are actually calling Allah a Zalim, thief and partner of thieves, and thus these people are doing big sin (and that is what you are doing continously in your posts).
Note: Even if that land belongs to government and stolen for construction by these ignorant zalim thieves, government has to demolish that structure because they are illegal construction on theft lands, not mosque. Actually, apart of demolishing those structure, government should put the people behind the construction into prison and fine them too. (Why? Read my previous posts).
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Don't be so emotional.....
If mosques's land Government owns then Its even worse to demolish these mosques by mush.
Government should allow people to go and pray in those mosques. Why don't Government demolish the night clubs in Pakistan even if there land is legal.
And why after 60 years.....I ask you why after 60 years they are doing these evil acts of destroying ' Houses of Allah '.
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Praying in that structure is sin and if people were doing it since last 60 years knowingly, they were doing big sin. That is one reason that those structure should get demolished so that people do not go there to pray and in process instead of praying ALlah, do sin.
Those who knowingly pray there (knowingly that the structure is on stolen land and thus based on zulum) are actually not praying ALlah but some diety that is diety of thieves and zalims.
The reason is obvious. Those who pray there knowingly are condoning such theft and zulum by their action and thus believe that Allah accepts such construction as 'house of Allah' and thus in this way, they are accepting (and confirming by their action) that Allah is thief and Zalim, that have (or would not mind to have) house on stolen land.
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Verse 2:114
Yusuf Ali:
And who is more unjust than he who forbids that in places for the worship of God, God's name should be celebrated?-whose zeal is (in fact) to ruin them? It was not fitting that such should themselves enter them except in fear. For them there is nothing but disgrace in this world, and in the world to come, an exceeding torment.
M.H. Shakir:
And who is more unjust than he who prevents (men) from the masjids of Allah, that His name should be remembered in them, and strives to ruin them? (As for) these, it was not proper for them that they should have entered them except in fear; they shall meet with disgrace in this world, and they shall have great chastisement in the hereafter.
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hareem01: I have feeling that you write without reading, thinking or understanding .. :) ..
Well, tell me: Do you believe that house of Allah could be built on stolen land? Can't you understand that only thief and zalim would build or would like to have a house on stolen land?
Now if you believe that ALlah is thief and Zalim .. there is no point in replying to you and if you do not, how can you call such structure .. worshiping place (house of Allah)?
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Explain stolen place?
Who stole et?
from whom stole?
I know and you know as well Musharraf as a rules owns that place....If Musharraf knows the Quran ' the ayah ' above....should he be doing that crap?
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hareem01: Wellllllllll :) Actually there are people that think that stealing from government is not stealing ... as it is unfortunate that most of our corrupts think that way and thus steal public wealth (taking rushwat or in other ways) without thinking that they are actually stealing and sin of such stealing is worse then stealing from individuals, as when they steal from government, they are stealing from each and every individual in the country (as all what government have belongs to each and every individual in the country), and thus would be answerable to whole nation on judgment day and their punishment is thus multiplied.
Nevertheless, this could happen because a person is brough up in a family of corrupts and if that is the case, I am really sorry as that would not be the person's fault but brought up problem and Islamic education. I hope that this problem is not what you are facing by not recognising that stealing is stealing, be that stealing is from government.
As for President Musharraf owns that place, that is wrong. Place is owned by the country and nevertheless ... since that construction was built on illegally occupied land, they are not Mosque but illegal construction, so those ayahs does not apply.
Actually to demolish such constructions built on illegally occupied lands (stolen lands) are jihad and anyone doing that would be serving Islam.
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The punishment of those people who built a mosque on ' government 's ' land would be what so ever...but punishment of a ruler who Ruined a mosque [without a valid reason] will be much more worse in this world and in the hereafter.
How old is pkistan and how old was that mosque?
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hareem01: what mosque you are talking about? and what mosque Musharraf or government of Pakistan is ruining? Please explain.
As far as I know, government have not touched any mosque. They are just demolishing illegally constructed structure where some ignorants worship their diety (God) and these worshipers believe their diety (God) condone stealing and zulum and do not mind to have a 'house on stolen land'.
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Don't play games....you know exactly what i'm talking about.