CDA Bulldozing Illegally constructed Mosques in Islamabad

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I understand that; that 'owners' are appearing now so long after inception smacks of something else...

And by the way, in Karachi at least, there *was *a land grab of sorts after partition.

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Land grab did not happened in Karachi after partition. What I remember, first land grabbing happened when some land grabbers working in collusion with Karachi administration, grabbed land in north Karachi, did planning and divided those lands into plots and sold it to mostly new migrants from East Pakistan after 1971. This was the origin of Orangi town. Later, Orangi town was legalised by the government.

Bigger land grabbing started when Afghans started moving to Karachi, who not only grabbed government lands around north Karachi and super highway but also privately owned lands. Later, other labour force moving from NWFP also started grabbing lands around super highway.

As for land grab for mosques, they are mostly government lands though some private langs could be stolen too in this way.

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And people celebrate the independence of Pakistan? The details say it all. However, all of this land grabbing is nothing to do or very little related to the current situation.

The CDA raise the charge against the occupiers. If the occupiers were not being challenged then the situation would be what it has been like for a very long time. It is legal practice that the one who is charging is the one who has the burden of providing the evidence. This should have been done via the courts. For masajid the government should be even more lenient than domestic properties as they are the houses of Allah.

This is the problem of trying to coat a veneer of Shariah over secular law. The situation can be cherry picked. When it comes to challenging the government people say that it cannot be done in Islam, when it comes to making clubs and pubs then we fallback on secular permissions. Why can't we do it the other way round? That secular law allows us to hold our leaders to account, and Shariah law prevents us from setting up pubs and clubs?

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why and who changes the name of the thread

kia yahan sach bolney ki azadi naeen hay
why why why this happened before telling me

i have never write this topic name

by writting illegal and CDa , the moderator have changed totally my point of view. its not CDA its illegal government of Pakistan and i am not talking about illegal mosque i am talking about legal mosques and madrassahs

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why moderator change topic name

... duplicate sorry

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haven't those madrassa loonies threatening suicide-bombings living mext to lal masjid vacated the land of children's library yet?

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aND HOW MUCH musharraf is paying you for writing this?

should i.......:hinna:
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what has musharraf or even religion got to do with this question? it was a simple question. as far as i know the loonies were occupying the land which didn't belong to the madrassa and they did threaten suicide bombing if their demands, whatever they are, were not met. correct me if i'm wrong. has the land been vacated?

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Suicide bombing was never used as a threat. Get it right !

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I’m not sure if I’m wrong. I’ll try to trace the exact news item if I get time. Nevertheless there’s something terribly wrong with the administration of lal masjid and the adjacent madrassa.

1- If readers think I am overstating my case, they only have to look to Lal Masjid in Islamabad, the scene of the stand-off between the government and a group of young female madressah students. Despite the provocation offered by these girls who occupied a children’s library while armed with batons the government beat a hasty retreat. More chilling than the actions of these students was their words: they openly stated that they saw their role as being mothers and wives of suicide bombers.

2- [A suicide bomber blew himself up on Friday outside a local five-star hotel in Islamabad, killing a security guard; seven others were injured. The terrorist was first stopped at the front of the hotel, where he could have done the most damage to life and property, but then he blew himself up when thwarted at the backdoor of the hotel.

This sort of thing in Islamabad is lethal for the ‘image’ of Pakistan. Foreign businessmen have stopped coming to Karachi; now heads of government will also think twice before coming on state visits. Ironically, the same day the chief cleric of Lal Masjid in the capital threatened the government with suicide-bombing if it did not rebuild his illegally constructed mosque that the CDA had pulled down. His Jamia Hafsa girls, who had come out and indulged in violence two years ago at his command, have taken over a library.](http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2007\01\28\story_28-1-2007_pg3_1)

3-They said Osama Bin Laden and Mullah Omer were their heroes and they were ready to become suicide bombers to kill the ‘enemies of Islam’ in Pakistan and abroad. When I said that Bin Laden is a terrorist who is fighting for an Arab cause on our soil, someone shouted ‘Osama!’, and the rest yelled ‘zindabad’. This yelling went on for a while.

I don’t have to agree with everything said in the attached articles. I’m just trying to tell you that there is something not right with people who are threatening suicide bombings. Even if you believe that such threats were never issued, why are they not ready to vacate the land which doesn’t belong to (legal or illegal) madrassa?

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Reading journalist reports takes a bit of mind work, but if you do it honestly you will come to the same conclusions as me.

1) Consider the newspaper - they will have a political agenda
2) Consider the reporter - they too will have a politcal slant
3) When there are claims of things like 'suicide bombings' you need to seek out names of which people have said this. If you can't find those names then that is a red flag.
4) Compare the report with other similar articles of the same news, you will see where they differ. A statement such a someone claiming to consider doing a 'suicide' mission should appear in every report.
5) Lastly, use your common sense ... if someone claims to do a suicide mission don't you think the authorities will put them into custody straight away?

Oh ... Allah (SWT) give these people wisdom and us all the clarity of right and wrong, truth and false. Ameen.

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yep I think that looney toon two bit mullah meant a pillow fight when he mentioned 'jihad'

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whats the meaning of 'Jihad'?

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'It is by thier posts that ye shall know them'

*yawn*
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indeed :)

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what do you think the meaning of jihad is to those people. What i think Jihd is irrelvant to this situation.

hey some guys have been cutting off people's throats as jihad, killing shias, and sunnis as jihad elsewhere.

so, really, lets not worry about what I think the meaning of jihad, but what these criminals think jihad is. hey maybe they did infact mean a pillow fight.

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Have you torn thier chests appart and looked into thier hearts, and so make this claim if you are truthful.

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hmm thats not a bad idea...maybe some bullets or bombs have already taken care of that though..

*yawn*
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hareem, may i know how old you are?

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if i had to place a bet, i would say early to mid twenties...no less than 22 no more than 26