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i guess
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I am referring to those folks that commit actual acts of terror in the guise of do-gooders.
I’m not referring to anyone that is defending their home. But since you have brought it up…why defend your home in the name of Allah? Do it because that’s your right as a citizen in the world.
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Finally Denmark is getting famous. And it has nothing to do with cookies. Good job!
Lastly, now that every shmuck managing a Danish (or for that matter any European/US) newspaper, sees their embassies being pelted with stones and people dying, should hopefully think a few hundred times, before trying to make a lame point about freedom of speech. Yeah, so not everyone is as intelligent and as enlightened as you are, but you are as big a moron as those protestors.
hmmm, so because Islamists slam ariplanes into our sky scrapers, blow up embassies and transportation, and behead hostages, we should also change our policies?
Sorry, but UTD is right. Violence will do nothing to give Muslims respect. While 'cartoons' may not depict the prophet with a bomb as turban, there are thousands of less subtle ways they can and will show their disrespect.
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Lets not mix apples with oranges, Seminole.
Yeah, there are 101 other ways of showing the disgust at the actions of European newspapers. Those are may be the ones YOU like. And I am sure organizing awareness class for Islam and distributing free Qurans is a very nice way of spreading the message. But pelting stones at the consulates is the one preferred by the demonstrators. It gets the point across too. In a very clear manner. No mistakes there. Next time a Newsweek editor is debating whether to print an artist's rendention of the face of Prophet of Islam (Peace be upon him) to express Freedom of Speech, I bet he will think it through.
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How can violence ever elevate a group to a position of respect?
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I am not mixing fruit here, Faisal. You are advocating a violent response, just like 9/11, OBL, etc was a violent response.
It doesn't matter what I want. I am stating how this response WILL be intepreted by the non-Muslim masses.
If you think burning, killing and threatening have no other consequences than 'getting a point across' then you are naive.
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In an ideal world there won't be any war either. You will negotiate your way out of every situation. Saddam will still be the President of Iraq and Taliban will still rule Afghanistan, because, in principle America will decide that violence is not going to get anything done, so lets negotiate with these guys.
So, who is being naive here?
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... and no, I am not advocating violence. Least of all, against diplomatic missions. I am saying, thats a powerful way of making a point. Just as the European newspapers were making a point about freedom of speech. They had no regard for feelings of others, and these demonstrators have no regard for loss of life or property. Nomsyn.
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Fine, but as America has found out, there are consequences to war. All I'm saying is pick your battles and be prepared for the consequences. Kinda like US has to since Cowboy Georgie took on the world.
And while I agree that in an ideal world (and religion) there wouldn't be any war, I disagree that in a perfect world Saddam and Taliban would still be in power.
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^ Haha.. Yeah, I am sure you don't.
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And I think - giving them the benefit of the doubt - that European newspaper editors grossly underestimated the reaction to their actions (may be they were just expecting a spike in circulation with some angry letters to the editor, which will further increase the circulation). Hopefully, in future, they will be more careful, now that they know.
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I would think you wouldn't want them in power any more either? Not necessarily the way they were toppled, but surely the systematic torture of Muslims would not exist in an ideal world. Granted, the killing of hundreds of thousands Muslims isn't as important as 12 cartoons in a Danish newspaper, but nonetheless...
Perhapas the battle of portraying the prophet as a terrorist has been a success, but at what cost? What other battles have been lost?
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I don't like a lot of things here, but you see, in an ideal world, there is no violence. So, you kinda get very screwed in an ideal world.
The protestors are pretty pissed off people, so that makes them angry, not necessarily "terrorists" in the true definition of the word. Do you consider all protestors, especially violent protestors, as "terrorists"? Please don't say yes. You will disappoint.
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Because they were being martyred for their belief in Allah :swt:…They were being killed because they were Muslims and as Muslims they tried to rally together, but to no avail…Thousands perished with the Serbians getting off scot free…
Rape camps, concentration camps, death camps…All were established in Yugoslavia, right under the very noses of those sent to protect them…
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No, I don't throw the word 'terrorist' around so flippantly. I wouldn't think that many of them are 'terrorists' in the true definition.
But I think many see the violent response in the same light as terrorism.
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I'm sorry....but try as I may, I can't justify killing in any case.
I'm watching the six o'clock news and the clips of what people are doing around the world to protest are just disgusting me.
There is no need for this. It makes Muslims look like a lot of uneducated, uncivilized animals.
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Proper response to cartoon. Thats rich that is coming from Utd of all people.
I posted this somewhere before, but its apt here too:
"Not only are whites kicking us; they are telling us how to react to being kicked''
-Steve Biko
If only we mooslims made nice orderly qeues and took it all lying down. That would be seminole's ideal world.
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bhai laji-wab aap ne bhi koi amreeka me aik do gori chamri walley bandey jihad ke naam par phurka deney they, how can you stay quiet, aap ko is liye nahee bheja gya tha united-states-of-yahoodistan. very dissapointing my brother 
→ love the smiley
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Lets not worry about what some hypothetical morons will think who are not even here. Lets talk about what you think, Seminole. You said "Perhapas the battle of portraying the prophet as a terrorist has been a success, but at what cost?" So what are you trying to say here? People are terrorist because they are protesting those idiotic cartoons? Or may be you want to bring your favorite 9/11 reference here again.
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There is no need for this. It makes Muslims look like a lot of uneducated, uncivilized animals.
Muzna, since september Muslims have tried to educate Danes, but they refused to talk, and now they are paying for what they had been warned about.
It is not what People think of you, it is rather what you see yourself as.