Car Bomb Kills Several Dozen Iraq's Applying for Jobs.

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Bombing Iraqi’s who are trying to become police officers, anyone here still backing these militants? Anyone still claming that they care about the well being of Iraq and Iraqis?

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BAGHDAD, Iraq - A car bomb exploded near a police station in Baghdad early Tuesday as dozens of Iraqis were applying to join the force, killing at least 47 people and wounding 114, officials said.

In a separate attack on Iraq’s police force, gunmen in two cars opened fire Tuesday on a van carrying policemen home from work in Baqouba, killing 11 officers and a civilian, police and hospital officials said.

The attacks marked the latest attempts by insurgents to disrupt U.S.-backed efforts to build a strong Iraqi police force capable of taking over security in many towns and cities ahead of nationwide elections slated for January.

In statements on an Islamic Web site, a group linked to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi claims responsibility for both attacks. The United States has offered a $25 million reward for the capture of al-Zarqawi, its top militant target in Iraq.

Attack near a cafe
In Baghdad, an Interior Ministry official said on condition of anonymity that a suicide bomber detonated an explosives-packed sedan next to a cafe by the police station where many would-be recruits had gone to escape the summer heat.

The blast left a gaping 10-foot crater outside the station at the end of Haifa street, a main Baghdad thoroughfare that has been the scene recently of fierce clashes. Dozens of cars parked nearby were destroyed and shops and buildings were damaged.

Paramedics and residents picked up body parts scattered across the street and put them into boxes. Anguished men lifted charred bodies and lay them gently on stretchers.

The attack on police in Baqouba took place when the policemen were returning to their station after they were told that a trip to a training camp has been postponed, said a police officer on condition of anonymity.

Eleven policemen were killed as well as the civilian driver, said Qaisar Hamid of Baqouba General Hospital.

Two others were wounded he said.

Angry crowds denounce Iraqi government
In Baghdad, angry crowds near the site of the blast denounced U.S. forces and interim Iraqi Prime Minister Ayad Allawi’s government for failing to protect police recruiting centers.

“Such places were targeted before,” said Ali Abul-Amir, who was among those trying to join the force but had gone around the corner to buy a drink when the explosion went off. “I blame Ayad Allawi’s government for what happened because they did not take the necessary security measures.”

Iraqi police forces have repeatedly been targeted by insurgents who see them as “collaboratorscapable of securing Iraqi cities ahead of nationwide January elections. ” with U.S. forces. Militants are bent on thwarting U.S.-backed efforts to build a strong Iraqi police force

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Get in the other thread about your army killing innocents in Iraq too, lets have some balance.

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Yet to understand this; how can our muslims find the way to escape from the objection that those who are killing iraqis are not muslims.

If they are americans they are mushriks, and if they are from saudia, syria or any other muslim country they also can never ever be muslim???

How can some one apporves of their presence in Iraq, except that , that they are terrorists and they are careing about all sorts of foolish things, but not iraq, or iraqies

Oh! God send your curse on them with speed. I am sure write it down, note it, such countries would vanish from the map of the world, who so called claim to help saadam party people. Liars! If they do it; america kills them in other places.

They think they can stop, anyone from making new government, they are in fools paradise. If it would become more Iran with the permission of America would take whole Iraq and there would be Kurdistan birth also. The map of the world would change to olden time geography.

Can they kill all------of them?? they could not finish them in 1400 + years, their popullation is ever rising one. They were just four in Ali's Khilafat time. Now---- how much? more you kill them more they unite, more their popullation increases.

Regarding oil in ---tan countries: is a fact, reality,saudia or who so ever tries to decrease the oil prize now; it is too late. Oil companies have signed the contract on lumsum basis not on percentage basis. Do not try to be smart??? asia would get its oil exported, pipeline would be built from ----tan oil producing countries via afghanistan till pakistan port. No one can stop it now.They could fool pakistan regarding oil KAABAshould not be changed from ARAB to ASIA for more than 20 years , but now no, they can not.

Those who would not understand , not america only,Pakistan perhaps would attack or perhaps may take that country as a whole. It would serve america, all muslims, death to terroism. sukoon he sukoon hou ga donyamein.

How much lives they would take of innocent iraqis.

yria, saudia and others,what kind of muslims are they??/ do they think that they can through chllii in the eyes of america and they can fool them and Pakistan, and do they think Pakistan does not know it. Every one is waiting to correct such people-----bye sokoon

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Everyone asks for balance in condemning violence from the other side, but no one is willing to provide it. The only time people poke their heads into threads that deal with subjects where they usually have their heads buried is to condemn the other side for something else. It is a vicious circle, just like the violence in Iraq.

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*Originally posted by Seminole: *
Everyone asks for balance in condemning violence from the other side, but no one is willing to provide it. The only time people poke their heads into threads that deal with subjects where they usually have their heads buried is to condemn the other side for something else. It is a vicious circle, just like the violence in Iraq.
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..........and you're helping how?

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Just pointing out the obvious which isn't so obvious to some...

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I believe CIA and Mossad are involved in Killing innocent civilians. Yeah go ahead call me conspiracy theorist or other names but that’s what I firmly believe in. American forces wants to stay there forever, so they will create every king of situation to make things look really bad. Think about it if there is peace in Iraq then what will be purpose of troops to stay there?

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It is true that the army kills innocents, that is wrong also. No one argues that. I never did. That this is a war that never should have happened is my opinion.

But I think it is the overwhelming support or (a better word) tolerance of these people that are doing the bombing and/or beheading that mystifies me. They are picking off one, two, three military people at a time WITH a majority of civilians. But their deaths are deemed acceptable or overlooked only because one or two (sometimes more) US servicemen die. I know as soon as Iraqi killing Iraqi is mentioned in this forum civilians deaths from Americans are immediately thrown back. Is it more acceptable for countryman to kill countryman? Or muslim to kill muslim? and for what? Because one doesn't like how another makes a living or feeds their family?

Seminole - agree.

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I believe CIA and Mossad are involved in Killing innocent civilians. Yeah go ahead call me conspiracy theorist

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No reason to call you such a thing since you've already proven that you are in fact one.

U.S. has troops all over the world where fighting isn't going on and military bases may remain in Iraq regardless of fighting as they have remained in Europe for decades after the second world war.

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Regardless who committed the act, it is immoral and pathetic. Men who just want money to feed their families are targeted because the do not fall in line with some groups political ideology. If these men are such heroes and Mujahids, fight our troops one on one. There is no cowering behind mosques and women for true Mujahids.

After all our Holy Prophet stated that innocents are to be spared in war. Yet these Mujahids disobey that very ruling.

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it is a sad moment but any one who works for the american occupation is a legitimate target of the attackers.

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it is a sad moment but any one who works for the american occupation is a legitimate target of the attackers.
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Don’t you think that your are little too harsh by using the word legitimate......I mean a lot of people who end up working for these American companies are poor innocent people from third world (or may be they are poor Iraqis themselves) and their only intention is to earn some bread and butter for their families......attack on a military convoy is a different thing and attacking poor innocent people is some thing else…..

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it is a sad moment but any one who works for the american occupation is a legitimate target of the attackers.
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Let's go one step further, anyone who uses an American product or an American invention should be considered a legitimate target, as well as their families.

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it is a sad moment but any one who works for the american occupation is a legitimate target of the attackers.
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Or further yet. Supports America by living and paying taxes there (Georgia) that buy bullets. You don't hate America too much now do you?

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U.S. has troops all over the world where fighting isn't going on and military bases may remain in Iraq regardless of fighting as they have remained in Europe for decades after the second world war.
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There is a difference between having a military base and controlling the oil fields.

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Right, you control the oil fields by proxy through corporations.

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^ Yes corrupt corporations like Halliburton, and every one knows whose interest is in that company.

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Why can not every muslim think that one life of an iraqi muslim has much more worth than all the oil of whole arab. Greedy people they forget , that they are so incapable , that they would have never ever been able to explore oil without the assistance of west.

The oil they are now bargaining with the life of innocent iraqis is just mere QATAR water, useless ,worth throughing , as compared to every muslim life in iraq.

Killing innocent iraqis or any human being who is working for his bread and butter can never ever be considered as ligitimate.

This kind of thinking is worst than KUFARS. KUFARS ---hindous are better than such so called drumers of islam. I swear I pray every day for such muslims to be vanish from the map of the world. Liars are such people who claim to be muslims, but they try to behave, in them as if they are GOD almighty.

GOD give patience to our all muslims and non muslims who are not terrorists and working to make a peaceful world.

What a twisted brain such muslim people have who want to achieve something using the worst possible means of killing muslims.

I pray to GOD to give these people the lowest place in hell on the day of judgement.

Not to them but to their AAQAS also whose theology they believe in, to legitimize their terrorists act of killing mankind as if they are creators of these universe.

God take care of all innocent , non terrorist muslims as well as non muslims, and give hedayat to such non muslims too, to seek the true path of islam. Bye sokoon

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"it is a sad moment but any one who works for the american occupation is a legitimate target of the attackers."

Even leaving aside the moral implications of that statement, can't you see that that is a matter of perspective (a subjective rather than objective way of judgeing people). One man may think that selling his food to the army base is a way of making a living, but another may kill him for supporting the occupation. How about a street vendor selling tea? Same thing? Whenever you have any person (no matter how good they are) making moral decisions about others, then there is no freedom, only for the judger. It would be too subjective and anyone could kill for what they think is a lapse in belief in another.

How many of you have accidently bumped into or tripped into another and had them lash out at you? Would you like a person with no patience or with a higher standard or stricter religious protocol to judge you and find you lacking? What if you you give directions to a stranger and another sees the two of you talking and kills you because he knows the stranger goes in the afternoon to an army base to drive trucks? You were talking together, then you are one of them, of course.

That road is too dangerous to tread on. There should be no excuse for killing innocents, on either side.

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you have to look from the perspective of the resistance. they see the american troops as their enemy and an american appointed government too will be an enemy, that is the rule in all resistance warfare. will the french resistance attacks against german authorities in occupied france be unethical?

any wayz, iraqi police and army are working against the resistance so the resistance has to strike at them. i mean didnt i say its sad? i hate any time a muslim dies, but its the reality what can i do? i feel for poor people who got no work but in iraqi army, but then the resistance fighters too have to survive, their enemies have the best weapons and thus have an upper edge in terms of technology so they strike using crude weapons and thats how it works out. selling tea to a passing soldier is different than working for the american appointed and funded iraqi army, dont you think so?