Capitalism... what did you expect?

What did you expect?

German companies, as was realised in 1991 as well, have been selling parts to various “axis of evil” countries that were employed in the construction of WMD.

But… if the US complains about it, they will be proving themselves to be even more hypocritical than we all knew them to be… this is Capitolism, Free Enterprise, or whatever they call it… BS if you ask me.

The US (western europe, in this case… the US’ big brother) wants to enforce capitolism on all of the people of the world, but will restrict their companies from engaging in free enterprise… sound hypocritical?

Let me just finish with this… this would never happen in a communist country. Only the governments in these countries sell things outside of the borders, and they’d never sell weapons parts to an enemy nation.

You know nothing.

The following is from a researcher whose specialty is “Death by Government”. He was nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize, and his research is a stark reminder as to why Reagan called the Soviet Union the “Evil Empire”. For all of those who rail against the US, please stop and actually absorb the magnitude of the numbers the author presents…

"Of course, eventhough systematically determined and calculated, all these figures and their graph are only rough approximations. Even were we to have total access to all communist archives we still would not be able to calculate precisely how many the communists murdered. Consider that even in spite of the archival statistics and detailed reports of survivors, the best experts still disagree by over 40 percent on the total number of Jews killed by the Nazis. We cannot expect near this accuracy for the victims of communism. We can, however, get a probable order of magnitude and a relative approximation of these deaths within a most likely range. And that is what the figures in Table 1 are meant to be. Their apparent precision is only due to the total for most communist governments being the summation of dozens of subtotals (as of forced labor deaths each year) and calculations (as in extrapolating scholarly estimates of executions or massacres).

With this understood, the Soviet Union appears the greatest megamurderer of all, apparently killing near 61,000,000 people. Stalin himself is responsible for almost 43,000,000 of these. Most of the deaths, perhaps around 39,000,000 are due to lethal forced labor in gulag and transit thereto. Communist China up to 1987, but mainly from 1949 through the cultural revolution, which alone may have seen over 1,000,000 murdered, is the second worst megamurderer. Then there are the lesser megamurderers, such as North Korea and Tito’s Yugoslavia.

Obviously the population that is available to kill will make a big difference in the total democide, and thus the annual percentage rate of democide is revealing. By far, the most deadly of all communist countries and, indeed, in this century by far, has been Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge. Pol Pot and his crew likely killed some 2,000,000 Cambodians from April 1975 through December 1978 out of a population of around 7,000,000. This is an annual rate of over 8 percent of the population murdered, or odds of an average Cambodian surviving Pol Pot’s rule of slightly over just over 2 to 1.

In sum the communist probably have murdered something like 110,000,000, or near two-thirds of all those killed by all governments, quasi-governments, and guerrillas from 1900 to 1987. Of course, the world total itself it shocking. It is several times the 38,000,000 battle-dead that have been killed in all this century’s international and domestic wars. Yet the probable number of murders by the Soviet Union alone–one communist country-- well surpasses this cost of war. And those murders of communist China almost equal it. "

i planned to leave

at the end of last week, I announced my plans to leave here forever, because of some here, who refuse to accept that I see things differently, and rather than attempt discussion of various subjects, prefer to criticise without foundation -- diacritically typical of amerikkans.

That is the reason why I changed my mind. I also realised that, though I cam here to talk politics with pakistanis and other middle easterners, I have mostly argued with typical amerikans.

Thus, I stay at the annoyance of those annoying amerikans.

To pakistanis, I cry forth my most sincere apologies, for having used your message board space to argue with these people.

^ we know how you feel :)

DarkLiquor85, I think it's great that you were able to find this club but without solid arguments you’re not going to be seen as any more serious than the trench coat mafia. Your words lack factual backing or conviction. You acknowledge that you fail to act out upon on your beliefs and principals but are rather guided to please your mother first and foremost. It seems as if you expected that you could come here touting your ‘red’ line and be taken seriously when you cannot even act upon it yourself.

For the record I think it’s wise decision to maintain this pseudo communistic persona and stick with the goals your mother has set rather than break away full fledge, after all if we all did such a thing without proper knowledge how many of us would have been living in a candy store by age 7?

Gosh, a whole post without mentioning that he is Communist .

Whoo hoo, we are off to a good start.

Your spelling is better on those big words too.

Get on with your conversation boy blunder, it ain't always about you....

retard

No, the fact of the matter is, I had a great childhood. I have always found it easy to associate with others -- I'm no socialwhore, but I have always had a large group of friends... My parents were married until I was 16. We own a house, 3 cars, etc. We went on nice vacations... I've been to europe twice, canada probably 6 or 7 times, mexico once, and panama once (but that was when one of my mom's cousins died). Hell, in all consideration, I have no reason to be a communist -- my father's family owns 2 companies, and on e of them has over 500 000 USD invested in US, Japanese, and German stocks, and my mother's brother is making thousands of extra dollars each year through mutual funds and cd interest

But I am a worker; I understand the business world, and I hate it... and among all of the Communist Party, USA's ideas, I only disagree with one -- gay rights. I don't think gays should have rights, but they do. Other than that, I agree with all of their ideals -- better wages for everyone, higher tax rates for the wealthy, government paid education through college and health care, affirmative action, equality, workers in charge of the workplaces, workers in congress, etc.

And as we communists have always pointed out to you brain-morons, we cannot achieve a communist society -- only socialist. Thus, I am not "pseudocommunist."

Like I said, you amerikans don't take the time to ask me what I believe, you just attack, and, up until today.

^^ That is the most bizzare and pathetic post I have ever seen.

It's not about you dude, start a discussion, we will judge basd on your intellect, rather than how rich your daddy is (freudian communism?).

Why has no one asked you your views? Nobody really cares...

can you not read?

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*Originally posted by Ohioguy: *
^^ That is the most bizzare and pathetic post I have ever seen.

It's not about you dude, start a discussion, we will judge basd on your intellect, rather than how rich your daddy is (freudian communism?).

Why has no one asked you your views? Nobody really cares...
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my father is not rich. His family is.

What's your dream job after you receive your education? You seem so "work-averse" I'm wondering where you see yourself in the future?

dunno, exactly

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*Originally posted by storch: *

What's your dream job after you receive your education? You seem so "work-averse" I'm wondering where you see yourself in the future?
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I don't exactly know... I wish to stay associated with industrial labour, but I don't like the pay nor the conditions (though there was word of us getting UAW representation)... I'm majoring in Computer Programming and Systems Analysis, monoring in German Language...

So, I guess to work with computer programs employed in industry.

an irony

here's something mighty ironic... my little sister was complaining yesterday about the RIAA's enforcement of prices to download music and use of law suits against kids and such...

it occured to me... why does the US government (that contemptable tool of the bourgeois) try to enforce free trade on all of the people of the world, but does nothing about a company pursuing people who take part in free trade within its borders?

There is a difference between free trade and free music. Downloading music at no charge does not compensate the artist or the recording company for their product.

DL, you don't know the difference between free trade and stealing?

"So, I guess to work with computer programs employed in industry."

How bourgeois (does this guy really still use this word?), working for the criminal enterprises that destroy the average working man.

Why do you not become "self employed", where you live by your wits, and are not dependent every day on the evil callous behemoths that rape our land?

Better yet you can create wonderful computer programs for free, and we can download them without having to compensate you for your time and talent. Of course then you will still have to live with your mommy....

let me say

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*Originally posted by Ohioguy: *
"So, I guess to work with computer programs employed in industry."

How bourgeois (does this guy really still use this word?), working for the criminal enterprises that destroy the average working man.

Why do you not become "self employed", where you live by your wits, and are not dependent every day on the evil callous behemoths that rape our land?

Better yet you can create wonderful computer programs for free, and we can download them without having to compensate you for your time and talent. Of course then you will still have to live with your mommy....
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I will take you seriously when you stop walking on your knuckles.

first of all, I can work with the same company when I have a degree, but for much better wages (each person on their current programmer team makes over 70 thousand USD per year).

Secondly, if I am making better income, I will have more resources with which I might further the strength of the communist party, making it easier for them to make things better for workingmen. Besides... I personally don't think NeoGen is that bad to it's employees, especially those who work in the main mill... and it'll only get better (especially for us in the warehouse) if we get UAW representation.

Thirdly, though I do agree there is a need for some sort of natural conservation, I do not hold that necessity with more presidence than industry. Industry is the most important aspect of international economy.

Fourthly, your second sentance doesn't make sense.

Then, afterwards, if you manage to ever evolve into cromagnon man, and obtain the ability to piece "werdz" together into what we educated, noncretinous people call a "sentinss", then come back with some valid arguements.

DON'T SENSOR ME