Considering these elections were contested in the areas which were considered as PTI’s strongholds. How can we explain the results of Sialkot, Rawalpindi and Lahore? Especially Rawalpindi where PTI almost clean sweeped in the previous elections?
Out of 20 seats of Rawalpindi/Chaklala PMLN win 19 where as JI 1…PTI completely routed.
In Sialkot PMLN 4 and PTI 1. I believe situation not that different in Lahore too.
In Gujranwala its somewhat better 5 PMLN versus 3 PTI. Taxila, Wah Cantt PTI sweep.
in KPK, PTI is better. PPP still confined to their base in Sindh.
So what do these results tell us?
If general elections held today who will win?
PTI needs to organize themselves at the grass root level if they need to win the next elections and perform in KPK, there are no shortcuts.
15 PMLN versus 7 PTI in Lahore. At the end of the day it boils down to infighting (in Pindi) and award of tickets…if the situation does not change we will see the same in next general elections. I dont understand with the confidence Imran Khan wanted the elections this year. PTI is not ready yet, they need to struggle for coming on top. One thing this election has again shown on the national level its between PMLN and PTI. PPP has got 5 seats so far, 3 in Hyderabad and 1 in Peshawar.
No it isn’t. Just like 2 months ago everybody said the MQM is done and they just won the elections in a landslide.
Such parties are the fabric of our society and will survive. Plus the PPP is our only liberal party. We need them to be strong and vocal. They are at the forefront of many key issues. After All Aitzaz Ahsen and Sherry Rehman have a done a great deal of good. If only the Bhutto clan would die a horrible death.
So Bhutto is finally dead and so is PPP. Even MQM has done much better than them. I much rather see a brand new party emerge than any life getting back into PPP. The party is rotten to the core and damaged beyond repair. They must pay a price for all their corruption, incompetence ‘friendly opposition’ and practising monarchical traditions in the name of democracy.
Looks like PTI is the only party which is winning seats from all over Pakistan, though they are behind PMLN in Punjab but seems to be competing well. he gap is not too wide, and it should give PTI a chance to get together and start working on their shortcoming now. The system has gone back to being a two party competition all over again - PMLN vs PTI.
remember few days ago i wrote on this forum ( i think i was quoting you) that PTI is loosing ground and may not be able to keep the number of seats in NA and PA it won in 2013 elections… this is just a confirmation of the same.
PTI need to perform.. IK need to shutup and focus on delivering … the more IK talks the more ground PTI is going to loose… it is as simple as that… unless he came back to his senses (which is bit difficult now) and performing in KPK..
Size of punjab has been a huge problem …PMLN has been ruling the country through punjab with no fair representation in any other province and it is not fair. if we split punjab into 2 or 3 provinces with equal finances being allotted to them via federal govt, we might see more local parties emerging and a different result as PMLN would need to deliver in those other punjabi provinces as well. right now all electables in siraaki belt join PMLN (or ppp) to get money for their constituencies. these electable waderas can win on their own as well but then they will get nothing from the sharif brothers and hence are forced to suck up to PMLN.
for PTI the biggest disappointment is to lose even in big urban cities in Punjab especially in pindi. PTI is not gaining ground, they are losing it. the whole dharna politics and that too for so long has backfired…and agree with you that god knows why IK wanted elections this year…another defeat would have have been waiting for him and he would be crying dhandliee dhandlie again
PPP is dead..at least for now. bhutto insulted hakim zardari and never paid any attention to him…and now asif zardari has murdered PPP..what a revenge from bhuttos!
The fact that close to 60 candidates won on their own says a lot about the trust that public has in current political parties
The fact that PMLN actually has no presence outside Punjab is a hugely worrying and embarrassing sign. Once again, it proves that the fate of Pakistani ‘democracy’ is rested on the mood of one province.
This is whole win Punjab and rule Pakistan system needs to go! It has to go. The system needs to more representative.
agreed..although i must say that right now PTI is the only party who is at least showing presence in all 4 provinces..PMLN is just punjab, PPP is only interior sindh and that is it…there is nothing else on horizon
Good point but how would creating more representatives work? 44.1% population is in Punjabi. Half of Baluchistan and Sindh is barren land. Less cities and so on. Interested in what you think needs to be done about it.
I have never been a strong supporter of First Past the Post voting system, I’d say proportional representation seems very representative but it rarely gives you a majority parliament, and some people don’t like that.
But for now creating more provinces out of Punjab will be one the major ways of achieving some proportional representation. You have to think, if the entire success rate depends on last minute wooing of Punjab, then why should any candidate sweat for barren lands of Sindh or Balochistan and reach out to Karachi or KPK? PMLN doesn’t need to do any of that and therefore they don’t. In a name of federal government, it’s nothing but a glorified provincial government!
well hakim was elected as Member National Assembly (MNA) on PPP ticket from nawab shah in General Election 1970 but lateron and from what i heard and read, he developed some serious differences with some party office bearers and complained to bhutto many times but bhutto never paid attention to his grievances…he was simply not important enough for bhutto. hakim was so upset and disappointed that he ended up leaving PPP and joined ANP (i think after bhutto died)…anyway, when BB married asif, hakim zardari was not with PPP but he was with ANP
PML-N shows no presence out of Punjab??? I heard PML-N won few seats in Balochistan (where PTI didn’t exist) and then there were few seats in KPK which PML-N won… yes in Sindh PML-N was not felt, maybe because their organization structure which they built on likes of Mumtaz Bhutto and Liaqat Jatao’i have left them few months ago.
Nevertheless, i see little national politics and that is dangerous trend, i don’t like PPP’s fading out, it should stay and have say and presence in national politics. if not then another party from sindh should fill in the space, we as a nation still paying the price of breaking/limiting national party (now called ANP in KPK and BNP in Balochistan) NS should seriously work on have considerable number of seats from other provinces…
and Yes i agree, Punjab need to be divided in three provinces, where Bahawalpur need to be restored and should be called a province, other should be southern punjab and then Nothern and central punjab make the 3rd province…
