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Sorry but did MO governor or Obama resigned after Ferguson or for that matter CA governor after Oakland riots for BART killing by police or Fullerton City council / Police cheif for Policy killing of homeless. I can give several more examples. I think this BS of In any Civilized country this and that needs to STOP rather the Context and Law needs to be upheld. If you think Punjab Govt is at fault , go to Court present your evidence and try to win. Here is a evidence that any Civilized country's judicial system will look, who instigated violence and who attacked law enforcement. There is no Murder case here, if any thing there is mismanagement case and there is terrorism case against the SIck canadian.

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کبھی کبھی میں اپنے پاکستانیوں پر حیران ہو جاتا ہوں
ایک شخص مذہبی لیڈر ہے جتنا مرضی قابل ، اچھا مقرر ہو
اگرہر مسلمان کے یقین کے مطابق کہ نبی صلعم کا بھیس بنا کر شیطان کسی مسلمان کے خواب میں نہیں آسکتا
کسی شخص نے مسلسل دروغ گوئی کی ہو
جس کا نام اصل کوئی اور ہو مشھور کوئی اور ہو اور بیرون ملک کوئی اور ہو
جس کے متعلق جنسی جرائم کے مقدمات کا ذکر بھی ہوتا ہو
جو زیرو سے ہیرو بنانے والے اپنے محسنوں کی دشمنی میں حد سے گزر چکا ہو
اس سائٹ پر میں نے گزشتہ پانچ سال میں اسکا صرف ایک فالور دیکھا ہے
سب ہی جانتے سمجھتے ہیں صرف کوئی خفیہ ہاتھ اسکی پشت پناہی کرتے ہیں
مگر پھر بھی اپنی ذہنی تسکین کے لئے اسکی حمایت کر ڈالتے ہیں
اس شخص کو اہمیت دینا بھی گناه محسوس ہوتا ہے

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Obama was not involved in what happened there. so get your context right before defending your murderous friends.

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ehsan bhai , I am sure you would not believe that but** 5 serving Generals of Pakistan Army in 2014 ****were the real culprits of Model town Incident because they wanted to topple PML-N Govt at every cost & that is why Lahore & Punjab were the prime targets being the main powerhouse of PML-N popularity/strength.

London Plan was also made by the same 5 Generals + 1 Retired General (Ex. ISI Chief Gen. Pasha), Imran Khan + Tahir-ul-Qadri were merely the Puppets !


This is published in today’s newspaper
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**RUETERS Report of September 2014

Army chief holds off Generals seeking Pakistan PM’s ouster**

ISLAMABAD | BY MEHREEN ZAHRA-MALIK

Fri Sep 5, 2014 6:01pm IST




Pakistan’s army chief General Raheel Sharif attends the change of command ceremony with outgoing army chief General Ashfaq Kayani (not in picture) at the army headquarters in Rawalpindi November 29, 2013.************
REUTERS/MIAN KHURSHEED/FILES

Weeks of mounting anti-government protests in Pakistan had been enough to convince five of the powerful army’s 11 Corps Commanders that it was time for them to step in and force embattled Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif to resign.

According to a minister close to military circles, top generals met in the garrison city of Rawalpindi at the end of August as demonstrations raged in nearby Islamabad. Thousands of protesters had just tried to storm Sharif’s residence.

**At the tense, four-hour conclave, Pakistan’s democratic process was once again in peril, with the military pondering another intervention in a country that has seen power change hands more often through coups than elections.

But army chief Raheel Sharif decided the time was not right to overthrow the civilian leadership, and moved to quell any disagreement in his ranks by overruling the hawks and declaring the crisis must be solved through politics, not force.**

Soon afterwards, the army issued a brief statement, reaffirming its commitment to democracy, and the threat of a coup, at least for now, had passed.

The minister, who declined to be named due to the sensitivity of discussing the inner workings of the military, said at least five generals had been pushing for weeks for the army to take a more “active role” in defusing the crisis.

“The time for the army to be neutral is over,” was how the minister summed up the message from dissenters around the table.

Two military sources confirmed this version of events. They, like the minister, spoke on condition of anonymity.

A senior security source added: “Raheel Sharif is not interested in direct intervention. The tanks aren’t going to come rolling in. This army believes in compromise.”

The army’s media wing confirmed Sunday’s meeting but declined to share details. Defence Minister Khawaja Asif told Reuters the army was a “monolithic institution”.

“What comes out from the army is ultimately one opinion,” he said. “And … they have supported democracy.”

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BIDING HIS TIME?**

General Sharif, who is not related to the prime minister, may simply be biding his time.
If, with the help of tacit military support, Nawaz Sharif does manage to ride out twin protest movements led by cricketer-turned-opposition leader Imran Khan and activist cleric Tahir ul-Qadri, he is expected to emerge a diminished figure.

It would allow the armed forces to assume greater control of policy areas they most covet - security and foreign policy - and leave it to civilians to face public anger over internal problems such as a faltering economy and widespread power cuts.

**A government insider told Reuters in August that Sharif had been assured by the military he would not be asked to step down and that there would be no coup. But in return his government would have to “share space” with the army.

Under the agreement, Sharif would be subservient to generals on issues he had wanted to handle himself - the fight against Taliban militants, relations with arch-foe India and Pakistan’s role in neighbouring Afghanistan after NATO combat troops withdraw at the end of 2014.
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The army chief’s cautious stance may have been linked to the strong show of support for the prime minister this month in parliament, where politicians lined up to back him.

General Sharif also inherited the current team of commanders from his predecessor when he took over the top job last year, making him less secure of his position, insiders said.
But with five top security officials due to retire next month, he has a chance to appoint his own men.

“It’s hard to imagine an army chief trying to actively intervene or do something drastic when he isn’t 100 percent sure his team will back him,” said a defence ministry source.

“Next month … he will have four of his own Corps Commanders. He’ll have his own intelligence chief. Then he’ll be a man to watch out for.”

**Spy chief Zaheer-ul-Islam, one of the five departing officers, was among those pushing for the prime minister’s ouster, according to three senior government sources.

“It is not the army but elements within the ISI that have been backing Imran to get rid of Nawaz,” said one of the sources, referring to Pakistan’s most powerful security body, the military’s Inter-Services Intelligence agency.
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**A senior ISI official said: “It is baseless to say the ISI is involved, but the fact is that this government has not delivered. No one will support it unconditionally.”
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Khan, who like Qadri accuses the prime minister of rigging the 2013 election and demands that he steps down, denies acting on anyone’s orders.

HOPE QUICKLY FADED

A year ago, few would have predicted that Nawaz Sharif would be in such trouble.
Back then, he had just swept to power for a third time in a milestone poll that marked nuclear-armed Pakistan’s first transition from one elected government to another.

**But in the months that followed, Sharif, who crossed swords with the army in the past, moved to enhance the influence of the civilian government in a country ruled by the military for more than half of its brief and turbulent history.

Sharif further irked the generals by putting former military head and president Pervez Musharraf, who ended Sharif’s last stint in power in a 1999 coup, on trial for treason.

His principle goals were to improve trade relations with India, convince Afghanistan that Pakistan would not meddle in its affairs and find a negotiated peace settlement with Islamist Taliban insurgents fighting against his rule.

But with the more conservative-minded military back in the driving seat, it would be much harder for Sharif to deliver on the rapprochement with India that he promised Indian officials when he won the election.**

It could also affect how Pakistan emerges from a regional tussle for influence in Afghanistan once the majority of foreign soldiers serving there return home.

“Nawaz is the biggest loser here,” said a government official. “Coup or no coup, the democratic transition has been badly disrupted.”

(Writing By Mehreen Zahra-Malik; Editing by Mike Collett-White)

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So it is Model town incident which is forcing the Canadain Illama to stage protests in Pakistan....

I dont believe him, a guy who use to ask for money to buy Ticket and Hotel expenditures of Prophet (SAW), who let his followers freeze in the winter of ISB is 2013 and himself sitting and resting in a cozy container....who again in 2014 enjoying in his container anf his devoted followers were suffering from weather and he dont give a rat-ass about it!!!

2014 when Model town thing happened! Who was calling for jihad and attack on Police while police hadn't attacked them till that time...

And in 2014, he simply left (apparently settled by 2 billion ruppees) and then forgot about everything...and now after two years he emerged out of no where and with same characters!!!

@ehsan bhai, do you believe that kinds of Sheikh Rasheed, Mubashir Luqman, Manzoor Watto, AttiqurRehman ( MqM) along with this chanda khor really want justice ???

It is being said that since the inaugration of CPEC, India alone have setup usd 200 million to fail it....and i see where they are spending it...on a certified liar Imran Khan...on this guy who 30 years ago was some mulla in ittefaq mosque with no house and anything...and now have properties of billions of dollars across the globe?

In 2013, tahir ul qadri the liar spent millions if not billions of ruppees in Pakistani media under 'Siyasat nahi Riyasat Bachoo" moto, what was back then??? A model town incident was not there at that time...so why he was in D chowk back then....why all that agitation ...and rhen during elections 2013, his dharnas miserably failed and then suddenly in 2014 model town happens he gets a life line and a line to tow...

In 1957, 2 boys were killed during some bangla movement....and till 1971 they were used by Mujeeb and his followers..

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and this report is published today and I am telling you since last two years
Last six decades , facing the traitors and conspirators
half of of Pakistan is still in tact

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my concern is for justice to the people mowed down by the murderous gang of Punjab Govt. I dont see in your post anywhere talking about these innocent people. Come on you are much better than this. Whoever is involved should be sent to gallows.

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My concern is that these so-called sympathizers of those people are certified liars and deceivers and these people have no intention what so ever to resolve the issue or provide justice...

If someone tells me that Tahir ul Qadri s loosing his hairs because he has concerns with the victims then i can only laugh at it...

This guy have sold the most Respectful and Pious Personality (SAW) for his political and monetary gains...can't trust anyone like him...no matter what the case maybe...

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My context is absolutely right! You said in any civilized country Govt would have resigned and I have given you handful of examples of multiple levels of Govt that DID NOT resign on similar Police shooting killing. So yes My context is right, Perhaps you were not expecting to be proven wrong in 2 seconds of making an illogical comment. So yes now tell me why in this civilized Country we call USA, No governor of a State or President or City Mayor or City Council or Policy Chief has resigned atleast in near past on dozens of Police related shootings e.g. Ferguson, Fruitvale killing, Chicago inner city dozen or so killings by Police, and the list goes on. Actually in almost all of these cases, No Policeman was even convicted of crime.

So here is the question what Civilized country you speak of? Fact is that in No judicial system, civilized or un civilized Police or acting Govt will be held liable for a death of a Mob attacking Police on instructions of a Violence Inciting Sick cult leaders. This is how simple it is. Get it or not, accept it or not, this is the reality. No I am not defending my Murderous friends, Sick Canadian mullah is not my friend and he is sole responsible for murders.

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You proved me wrong in 2 seconds how wrong you were you proved me wrong in a nano second. However the reality is that you cant see the facts as you are blinded by your love for the Sharif brothers. The cases you mentioned were disturbances in which the govt had no hand, here the picture is quite different and your beloved Sharifs were behind it. Got it, maybe not.

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I am really surprised that you are developing habit of calling a Pakistani person 'Canadian', but then what one can expect from one who works and love a traitor, thug and Liar, who is agent of Saudi Arabia and UK. As for T-u-Q, he is Pakistani as much as any Pakistani, and has every right to be in Pakistan (his home country), just like any Pakistani. He is neither agent of any foreign country, nor corrupt thug, or one playing his role to destroy Pakistan.

Anyhow, I would not stoop so low that I would stop calling this Thug as Saudi or British, what he deserve to be called, contrary to calling Tahir-ul-Qadri a Canadian. Thug has killed many innocent Pakistani men (even old men), women (including pregnant women), and children, in cold blood, people who were associated with T-u-Q. and thus this murderer thug with all his accomplice should get hanged. If Pakistan was not banana country, this thug could not have held to his office for a day, rather, he and his associates should have got in jail for corruption and nepotism, and should have got hanged or electrocuted on murder charges of innocent people at model town.

This Thug, Nawaz Khabees has looted, destroyed and sold Pakistan. He works for British and Saudi interest at expense of Pakistan, and is an agent of these two (and Allah knows how many) countries. It is possible that this thug is agent of India too, and is in love with Modi and his government. if anyone throws money to him (in his personal account), Thug Nawaz could do anything to harm Pakistan.

Actually, in disguise as Pakistani, he is doing everything to loot and destroy Pakistan for these countries, making Pakistan a slave country of these countries (God knows, how many other countries this thugs works for). *What 'East India company' was doing to India for UK before 1947, this thug is doing the same rather worse to Pakistan, looting and plundering Pakistan and then transfer that looted wealth to enrich UK (and other countries). *

This thug has compromised Pakistan economic interest and military too. If it was up to this thug, he would send Pakistani forces to fight every war or invade every country, his masters in KSA or any country he works for, would want. I would not be surprised if he would sell Kashmir and even parts of Pakistan to India and other countries.

Actually, this thug is trying to institutionalise corruption and telling people that one can take bribe and immediately transfer that corruption wealth to children and other family members, than say that since that assets is not in his name, he is not responsible of it, and since kids or family members never held government post, they are also not responsible. What a crook with devious mentality, who thinks all Pakistanis are idiots ... and best part is that, his 40 thieves living around him are no better than him.

I think, people like Nawaz Shareef, whose only job is to loot and plunder Pakistan to enrich UK and other countries, should not be allowed to enter Pakistan, and if he enters, than he should be sent to prison for good.

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^^ such emotional post ???

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To me, Qadri is in same untrustworthy list as Nawaz and Shahbaz, can't trust their words and motives.

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Are you getting enough sleep in Ramadan ? Looks like you are suffering from some disorder. Please go have a check up or something.

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Really so Model town as not Disturbance where a mob attacked law enforcement people. Sorry no wont work. Here is parallel, people attacked Police and they got shot whether its Pakistan or US or any where. Sharif were behind Model town as much as Missouri Governor was behind Ferguson, NY Mayor was behind NYPD killings, Chicago Mayor was behind Chicago PD killings etc. That is not at all. Otherwise who is stooping any one to go to court and prove Sharifs ordered Mr. X Y Z killed etc. etc. Your Whims and Wishes are not Law and Law does not care about them. Think what you may, it doesnt matter.

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neither does your or your Sharif worshiping make an iota of difference. Carry on with your hero worship. I am sure that all the cases you have listed there the governor did not interfere with the registering of the case or impede justice along the way. How long did it take to register the FIR and that also after pressure from the public, otherwise like all the other crimes the Sharif family is involved in this one would also have been swept under the carpet.

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Qadri seems more like a cia agent being sent there to cause more chaos than already exists.

Wonder why he doesn't take his family with him to the frontlines, they live happily in Canada yet he goes there and acts all self-important. His party minhaj........ is more of a front for collecting money than charity IMO.

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Setting the Man himself aside, what about the incident and the accountability thereafter? Lets forget for a moment that he's the echoing voice. What if it was someone else leading the cause to ask for justice of those murdered?

Yes, he should go the courts and follow the process that ordinary Pakistanis have to go through for their rights. We can hang on to technicalities for long, but is what happened justified? If it is, how so? If it's not, shouldn't there have been systematic reckoning to punish those who authorized the shooting, or those who turned a blind eye to it?