Canada bans Hezbollah

Well done but it shouldn’t have taken this long.

OTTAWA (CP) - After months of pressure from the Opposition and Jewish groups, the federal government has banned the pro-Palestinian group Hezbollah from operating in Canada.

Ottawa added Hezbollah and two other groups Wednesday to its list of banned entities under the Criminal Code, bringing the total to 16. The penalty for belonging to or aiding a banned group is up to 10 years in prison.

http://www.canada.com/ottawa/story.asp?id=0E39B2F4-3549-4CA1-91E0-34E63FB07252

I never knew Hizbollah operated in Canada. But well... whatever. :)

A bit more to this story than meets the eye?

Hezbollah says Canada was duped into calling them terrorists, CBC, 12 December 2002

Until Wednesday, [Canada’s] Foreign Affairs Minister Bill Graham had resisted adding the organization to a list of terrorist groups, saying the social arm of Hezbollah was a legitimate charity.

He said he changed his mind – in part – after hearing media reports of the group’s leader, Sheik Hassan Nasrallah, urging Palestinians to expand their suicide bombings worldwide.

But those reports have not been confirmed. CBC TV reported Wednesday that no record of those remarks could be found, and the Canadian embassy in Beirut has tried and failed to document the quotes.

The quotes were in a story written by London-based freelancer Paul Martin. He told CBC TV that he cannot back up the quotes but maintains he understands Nasralla’s true agenda.

Is someone saying that Seyyed Hassan Nasrallah doesn’t support terror attacks on Israel, if so that is laughable.

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Is someone saying that Seyyed Hassan Nasrallah doesn't support terror attacks on Israel, if so that is laughable.
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i am not certain who is saying that, UTD.
Please read my post carefully. i quoted (from a source that is Canada's main news broadcaster) that the reason Bill Graham changed his mind and included Hizbullah on the terrorist list is, apparently, because Sheik Hassan Nasrallah urged Palestinians to "expand their suicide bombings worldwide". Then i quoted that CBC TV had reported "that no record of those remarks could be found", and the Canadian embassy in Beirut had also failed to discover the source of these alleged comments by the Sheikh. That's all. This is dissimilar, IMO, than stating that he is not responsible for acts against Israel; simply, that the source of the Sheikh's expanding "worldwide suicide bombings" comment has yet to be accurately attributed to him.

First of all, Hizzbollah has been long recognized as a terrorist group in Canada. What was sort of unique in Canada is that it tried to differentiate between the "military arm" and the "charitable wing." The recent event merely involved viewing Hizz as a single entity and barring any and all activity of the group in Canada. So the CBC headline saying Canada was duped into calling Hizz terrorists is really quite misleading and skews the facts.

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media reports? who released those media reports? CNN? BBC? MSNBC? Fox TV? these are all propoganda channels and they broadcast nothing but lies and made-up stuff :nook: if these are the reports graham is talking abt then YES canada IS wrong to lable HIZBOLLAH as a TERRORIST ORGANIZATION :nook: but unfortunately canadian government is nothing but a B*****D child of U.S.A and there is not way canada will ever go against USA wishes :nook:

a sad and dark day in canadaian history …

Rab Rakha

DerVaisH

^ well said … :k:

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Big deal! Its been on America's terrorist list for ages, hasn't made much of a difference then, what major difference will it make to hizbullah or our veiws now?

Can’t find a record of the remarks? Someone in Canada is getting lazy.

LONDON — The leader of the Lebanese Muslim group Hezbollah is urging a global suicide bombing campaign, increasing the prospect that the regional conflict between Arabs and Israelis will expand to mimic or even merge with al Qaeda’s war against the West.
Two recent speeches by the Lebanon-based Hezbollah leader, Sheik Hassan Nasrallah, have raised the specter of attacks outside the region by a powerful and well-organized military force — a force that successfully pushed the Israeli army out of southern Lebanon two years ago.
Al Aqsa refers to a sacred Muslim site in Jerusalem that, although under Israeli military control, is in practice administered by Palestinian Muslim authorities.
The site, holy to both Jews and Muslims, is a flash point for tension and outbreaks of violence.
Taken alone, Sheik Nasrallah’s remarks might be interpreted as no more than a warning to Israel not to alter the status quo.
But earlier in the week, at a rally in Lebanon’s Bekaa Valley, Sheik Nasrallah issued a far more ominous threat.
“Martyrdom operations — suicide bombings — should be exported outside Palestine,” he said.
“I encourage Palestinians to take suicide bombings worldwide. Don’t be shy about it,” he added.
Both speeches were broadcast by a Hezbollah-owned TV station in Lebanon.

http://www.washtimes.com/world/20021204-29720774.htm

It's about time! HUZZAH for Canada - at least this time!

Peace To All Who Read This...

There may be something to the story. Thank goodness for the self correcting mechanisms within a free press countries like Canada and US.


http://www.csmonitor.com/specials/sept11/dailyUpdate.html

Hezbollah story likely “invented”
The furor over the importance that a media article that allegedly contained “invented” remarks from a Hezbollah leader, and the role it played in Canada’s decision to ban the Lebanese group, continued to grow on Thursday.

heres a joke that was on canadian tv a while ago

"terrorists wont attack canada, because their families live here"

Canadian Govt silence after speech turns out to be a HOAX…

Curious silence greets discredited Hezbollah tale](Breaking News - Headlines & Top Stories | The Star) Toronto Star

ANTONIA ZERBISIAS Dec 13, 02.

Checking facts, verifying quotes and sourcing stories — these are the basics in the journalist’s toolbox. **But, when it comes to the Middle East, reporters are often accused of hammering away at agendas without first nailing down the facts. That’s because there are many who will jump in when journalists file stories that don’t fit their notion of “honest reporting.” **

But, when the stories tilt in their favour, even if they’re incorrect, these same advocates are curiously silent. Consider how, two Thursdays ago, both the National Post and The Globe and Mail ran front-page pieces based on a report the previous day by one Paul Martin. No, not that Paul Martin but the Paul Martin who, sometimes under the pseudonym Sayed Anwar, writes dispatches about the Mideast — from his desk in London, England. He sells these stories to The Washington Times, the paper controlled by the Unification Church, more commonly known as the Moonies.

On Dec. 4, Martin reported in The Times that Sheik Hassan Nasrallah, leader of Lebanon’s Hezbollah (The Party of God), had made televised speeches in which he urged “a global suicide campaign.” He quoted Nasrallah as saying: “Martyrdom operations — suicide bombings — should be exported outside Palestine. I encourage Palestinians to take suicide bombings worldwide. Don’t be shy about it.”

The next day, both the Post and Globe had A1 stories on those calls for global terrorism. While the Post qualified the quotes with a weaselly “reportedly said,” The Globe did not equivocate, repeating the quotes as if the reporter had heard them. But were there ever such speeches? And did Nasrallah actually say what The Times, Post and The Globe said he did? Not according to an investigation by CBC’s Middle East correspondent Neil Macdonald, who spent three days in Lebanon trying to track down Nasrallah’s inflammatory remarks. But he could not make the facts fit with Martin’s account of them. Not only did Nasrallah not make the speeches when and where Martin had reported, there was no evidence the Hezbollah leader had ever incited suicide bombers to go global.

“I watched the videos. I watched the speeches. I have done more research than maybe the Canadian government has done, certainly more than Paul Martin has done,” Macdonald told me on the phone from Jordan last night.** “He came up with three quotes, one of which, to be charitable, was a gross mistranslation, and the other two were never even uttered.” When CBC confronted Martin for Wednesday’s edition of The National, he “got very upset and jumped up and said this interview is over.” Eventually, he fingered Walid Phares, a Florida Atlantic University associate professor, as his source.**

Martin also told the Star’s Allan Thompson yesterday the quotes came from Phares — who read them out on the right-wing Fox News network. When he asked him if he was sure of the quotes, “Martin replied, `As certain as one can ever be in a region where there is so much duplicity.'” Funny coming from Martin, whose reporting has been discredited. Last spring, the Australian media poked holes in his journalism while The Washington Post questioned his work. Not surprisingly, the reprinting of those quotes caused an uproar in Canada, where Jewish groups and the Canadian Alliance have been pressing Ottawa to outlaw Hezbollah.

Interesting last two articles (by Old Lahori and DhP).

>>did Nasrallah actually say what The Times, Post and The Globe said he did? Not according to an investigation by CBC’s Middle East correspondent Neil Macdonald, who spent three days in Lebanon trying to track down Nasrallah’s inflammatory remarks. But he could not make the facts fit with Martin’s account of them. Not only did Nasrallah not make the speeches when and where Martin had reported, there was no evidence the Hezbollah leader had ever incited suicide bombers to go global.<<

:confused: Go figure.

So what terrorist attacks have Hezbollah been involved in?

I would like to know why it is a terror organization.

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i am not certain who is saying that, UTD.
Please read my post carefully. i quoted (from a source that is Canada's main news broadcaster) that the reason Bill Graham changed his mind and included Hizbullah on the terrorist list is, apparently, because Sheik Hassan Nasrallah urged Palestinians to "expand their suicide bombings worldwide". Then i quoted that CBC TV had reported "that no record of those remarks could be found", and the Canadian embassy in Beirut had also failed to discover the source of these alleged comments by the Sheikh. That's all. This is dissimilar, IMO, than stating that he is not responsible for acts against Israel; simply, that the source of the Sheikh's expanding "worldwide suicide bombings" comment has yet to be accurately attributed to him.
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Great. The conspiracy has been uncovered.

what do you expect? Wash. Times is a neo-conservative and pro-jewish
publication.

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Great. The conspiracy has been uncovered.
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No one, except for yourself, is stating that it is a "conspiracy".