No…The guidelines in the Quran and Sunnah are very easily understandable, even the analogies are very straightforward…There is nothing fancy you need to understand them…
You really don’t need a scholar to interpret the basic tenets like oneness of Allah :swt: or the finality of the prophethood…
However, some contemprary issues like banking and food e.t.c need to be interpreted…I have not devoted my time to studying the Quran and Sunnah, however, Allah :swt: has blessed the scholars with a need to gain knowledge…And I consult them to see how I approach an issue…
So all have heard so far is different ways of saying Allah cannot be seen. Question is, have any of you had Allah come in your dream(s)? Now don't be afraid and state the truth.
If Allah did figure in your dream and you sau he didn't, remember you're denying Allah as Not Allah.
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So does that mean Allah can dreamt of? Have you? (or know anyone who did?)
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my friend was telling me this dude in his arabic class (whose a gora pakora) had the prophet come in his dreams.... well he didnt know himself but he spoke to someone who knew of such things... and the person told him it was the prophet calling u to Islam... pretty kewl stuff
Tom…Allah :swt: in His wisdom didn’t even tell His creations His name…FYI, Allah is not the name of our God…‘Al’ means ‘The’ and ‘Lah’ means ‘God’…‘Allah’ means ‘The God’…
The other 99 ‘names’ of Allah :swt: are not actually His names…They are His attributes…
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human mind and eyes r not capable of "seeing" Allah, nor to imagine His form and looks, so u can very well be sure that no one has seen Allah in his dreams/reality and if he/she claims to have done so, he/she has lied....
I know your answer because you said it. You cannot claim it for everyone else unless you've couped Allah which based on what I've read from you, you will not even dream of.
Now let me ask you a question… If you can’t see something does it mean it doesnt exist…
the paper qoutes a lot of examples…
you know magnetic field exist because it draws a piece of metal…but can you see it… you can see an electricity light up a bulb but can you see the electricity itself… brother to me the whole universe is an example of the creation of Allah…
Please read the article on the link above all the way and posts any questions you might have over there…
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I know your answer because you said it. You cannot claim it for everyone else unless you've couped Allah which based on what I've read from you, you will not even dream of.
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Well to my knowledge, we can not see Allah (swt) with our naked eyes in this life. but still you can feel His presence around you. now as for as the question of Allah swt comming into one's dream is concerned i dont think its impossible as your dreams are already not depending upon ur senses and abilities. you can fly like a bird or swim like a fish, you meet with departured ppl, you can see jannah, you can see Prophet Muhamad PBUH so there is no limit. so i dont think u can not see Allah. and i have heard there are questions like this in a book "Khwabnama Tabeer-e Yousaf" and has explanations of these kind of dreams.
and yes I have been blessed by this fav. I had a dream close to it. where few ppl taken me to a mosque, everthing was kinda divinish. and when i asked those ppl where are they taking me and they said to meet Allah swt. they left me inside the mosque where I saw an old man with a long beared. I cdnt remember his face exactly neither the advice he given to me. only thing i remember is tht i asked him to show me the place of my grand mother.(my grand mother is still alive, shes a nice and very relegious lady and i love her more than my parents). and suddenly i saw a huge palace and i can still recall the beauty of the atmosphere, it was so plasent tht i can still feel the freshness and then again suddenly i was infront of a great wall with its huge door on the leftside. and then i woke up. i didnt tell anyone abt it. but i was also afraid tht if it was a message of my grand ma's or my own departure. it was a very strange feelings but i was also somewhat satisfied if tht was going to be the place for my grand ma. anyways i went to a sufi (i can tell abt him in detail if anyone wants, but i beleive He's a real sufi and i am greatful to Allah for having his occasional company) and he told me tht its overall a good dream an u might have seen Allah in ur dream. btw i should mention tht i am not a very good muslim but i dont understand the fact tht i am very much blessed by Allah swt and i am really thankful for it and have some good experiences of his presence in my life.
question is can we influnese those unseen powers ? or any human can
claim they know all about it? electricity can be turned on and off
and explained in terms of physical quantity.
question is can we influnese those unseen powers ? or any human can
claim they know all about it? electricity can be turned on and off
and explained in terms of physical quantity.
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yes i beleive we can, just give u a simple example. "Dua" is another unseen power and some times you pray and get the hurdle removed thru means u never have even imagined and i am sure most of us must have this experience. so whts this? ur dua just influenced on some unseen power and changed the whole situation.
now comming to the claim thing, i dont think ppl with powers, like to come in spot light. and i do beleive tht no one but God knows all about these powers still He gifts some of these powers to some priviliged Persons.
and for the explanation i am no Schollar, nor sufi neither Scientist, only thing in terms of physics i know which to some extent explains these powers is theory of relativity and frame of refrence. i dont know if u want me to explain it in detail or not.
You cannot be the only one amongst the GS millions to have gotten an Allah dream. Come on people. Dpn't lie or be silent. Because in either case, having dreamt of Allah, not admitting it is actualli denying Allah.
And Houston Don, don't assume anything. I did not ask my question to claim if you can't see, it don't be.
question is can we influnese those unseen powers ? or any human can
claim they know all about it? electricity can be turned on and off
and explained in terms of physical quantity.
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and what about the phenomenon of magnetic field... can you control it too...???? can you make two like poles attract each other MR???
Mr.... those are just some mere examples i quoted to show how dumb the logic of Tom Sawyer is.... Khuda keh khudaee is seh kaheen waseeh heh....
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Ok Chodhry.
You cannot be the only one amongst the GS millions to have gotten an Allah dream. Come on people. Dpn't lie or be silent. Because in either case, having dreamt of Allah, not admitting it is actualli denying Allah.
And Houston Don, don't assume anything. I did not ask my question to claim if you can't see, it don't be.
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We can’t see Allah swt with our naked eyes in this life, yet as a greatest reward Allah will reveal Himself to all Janaties in Jannah.
We are not bound by our 5 senses in our dreams. They are more dependent upon the flight of our imaginations. But even imaginations can’t go beyond a certain level, and as we can’t imagine the exact shape of Allah so we can’t have a dream of His exact shape.
So what that supposed to mean if you have dreamt of Allah? That means you have seen an expression of Allah not his exact shape. And your concept about Allah defines that expression.
Concepts of Allah vary from person to person. Like by Allah, I have a very friendly Personality in my mind, Who helps me in every problem. You might have a “Buzurg” type personality. For third person Allah may be a name of a cruel identity who doesn’t really care. These are all His “sifaat” (attributes) and we remember Him by his attributes.
So it’s quite possible to have a dream of Allah and see his expression formed by your imagination.
There’s a book in the market “Khuwab Namma Tabeer Yusaf” it has interpretations for dreams of Allah.
and what about the phenomenon of magnetic field... can you control it too...???? can you make two like poles attract each other MR???
Mr.... those are just some mere examples i quoted to show how dumb the logic of Tom Sawyer is.... Khuda keh khudaee is seh kaheen waseeh heh....
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well You not only can create magnatic fields thru electricity but can also control it. and i think its a basic principle of Physics and All of your electric motors work on it.
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Ok Chodhry.
You cannot be the only one amongst the GS millions to have gotten an Allah dream. Come on people. Dpn't lie or be silent. Because in either case, having dreamt of Allah, not admitting it is actualli denying Allah.
And Houston Don, don't assume anything. I did not ask my question to claim if you can't see, it don't be.
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i dont understand what you exactly mean by this statement. would you mind explaining it?
Chodhry, I have this suspicion that a lot of muslims dream of Allah but are afraid of admitting it because of fear of mullahs or other muslims jumping at them for trying to give shape to Allah. You have had the courage to state your dream and I laud you for that.
I strongly feel that a lot of people visualize Allah in their mind but feel guilty about it and hide it.
Wow, this has been taken very literally. Dreams have meanings and in the meanings lies the truth. We have 3 types of dreams. One from the divine, one from the devil and one from the conscience. How do they differentiate, its hard to say. Ask a learned person.
I just read up in the book of dreams contrary to what most are saying here that Allah can be seen. How is that? He can appear in the form of the judiciary court. Anything is possible. Don't put your mind in limitations of what the divine can or can't do. Are you questioning his power?
question is can we influnese those unseen powers ? or any human can
claim they know all about it? electricity can be turned on and off
and explained in terms of physical quantity.
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Seems like all i said went over here man......
The point I am trying to make is ... that if you can't see something doesnt mean it cannot exist... like electricity that exist and servers as a source of power...similarly there is a magnetic field that draws metals towards it... since it attracts the magnet we know there is some sort of magnetic field... but can you see magnetic field with your bare naked eyes.... All i gave were just some examples... and no I am not claiming electricty or magnetic field as a God if thats where you are getting at.....
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And Houston Don, don't assume anything. I did not ask my question to claim if you can't see, it don't be.
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I am not assuming anything man... All i said fits the context and makes sesnse man... now tell me if you can't see something... can you dream about it......? Yeah you can admire the nature God created in the same way you can admire electricity from a turned on bulb or a turned on AC when its hot... or a wheel rotating because of some magnetic field generated but Mr... can you see the magnetic field to dream about it???
No Allah is not mortal as some hand mades Gods that you can make however you want and they can't even defend themselves if someone destroy them... nor like some mortal animals...