Can you be Christian and Muslim at the same time?

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BEING CHRISTIAN AND MUSLIM
by Aman Ali

I spent well over an hour talking to Rev. Ann Holmes Redding about how she was kicked out of the Episcopalian church for believing in both Christianity and Islam. After an enlightening chat where we even sang a few Islamic and Christian songs together, I saved the most burning question I had for last.

“Be honest,” I said. “Did you decide to be Christian too so you can get around that whole ‘Muslim No-Pork’ thing?”

Yes, Ann Holmes Redding is an Episcopal priest and a devout Muslim. She prays five times a day and is fasting during Ramadan. On Sundays, she attends church and takes communion.

I’m sure everyone wants to know how on earth does her belief system work. When it comes to Jesus, Christians believe in the trinity and Muslim’s don’t. It’s one of the fundamental differences between Muslims and Christians so how does she reconcile that?

Ann is just as interesting on the outside as she is on the inside. She tucks her shiny silver dreadlocks underneath her black headwrap. Underneath her matching dress is a necklace holding Christian and Muslim pendants. She laughs in a set of short spurts to shrug off any tough question thrown at her. I sat next to her in St. Andrew’s Church in Seattle, talking about her life and even sharing a few songs together.

Ann was raised Episcopalian in Pennsylvania. She grew up in a fairly liberal town where she regularly met people of different faiths. She explored other religions at a young age and said there were times in her childhood where considered being Jewish, Greek Orthodox and even Quaker.

“I remember I’d tell my mother I found this really great new religion and she would sigh and say ‘Wait a month,’” she said with a bursted chuckle. “She got the clue there was something up with me and religion because I just seemed to be wired this way. I was always fascinated with God and liked anything that made me feel in touch with mystery.”

It was a natural journey, she said, for her to become a priest in the Episcopalian church. Islam didn’t play a major role in her life until 9/11. She was active in Seattle’s interfaith community and following the terrorist attacks, she started organizing Islam 101 classes to her congregation.

For the next few years, the classes became a regular thing at the church. Then in early 2006, she was thrust into a journey that would change her life forever. It began with her mother dying and a few weeks later she was sitting with a local Muslim leader who taught her a Sufi Islamic song. She said it wasn’t necessarily the song that did it for her, but she soon realized Islam was something that she was longing for.

“I knew that I needed to surrender before God,” she said. “The word Islam means surrender. I knew I had to become someone who is defined by surrender and whose posture in the world is surrender.”

She embraced Islam on March 25, 2006. Shortly after, she attended an interfaith event when she told someone what she had done.

“I saw this Muslim woman in one of those meetings and I said “I’m an Episcopal priest and I’m now a Muslim.” She remarkably enough told me “I didn’t have to choose.”

Word got around fast in the Seattle community that Ann was both a practicing Christian and Muslim, much to the dismay to the senior leaders of the clergy. In 2009, the church decided to “defrock” her, which formally removed her rights to be an ordained minister.

“It was heartbreaking,” she said as she paused between enduring several tears. “It still is.”

She said she became a priest because she felt God was calling her to do so. Now, all of a sudden, that role was taken away from her. I asked her if that ever made her question her calling in the first place.

“When I was ordained, I came from a parish at the time that was opposed to the ordination of women,” she said. “So I had dealt with opposition before. In a way I felt having come from that part of the church, that was one of the ways that got me prepared for what happened when I was defrocked.”

Many people in the church gave a sentimental scrap book she saved to this day. She says the gift is heartfelt, but given the circumstances she was given it, sometimes turning through the pages is difficult.
oday, she delivers guest sermons and lectures around the country. Ann spends most of her time these days talking about herself and what she believes. Since faith is extremely private in nature and focuses on a personal relationship with God, I asked her how she deals with being so public with her beliefs. Does she struggle with being humble when it seems like all she does for a living is talk about herself?

“I have no choice but to stay really close to my prayer rug,” she said. “My prayer is that I be of use. I want to be of use, as arrogant as it sounds, but I wanted to be of use to God. I figure if I keep my intentions straight and pray a lot, that’s all I can do. I don’t go out seeking this publicity.”

Since she’s both Christian and Muslim, I asked Ann which one she sees herself more as. There has to be moments where she feels like her beliefs clash with one another, right?

“It seems to me as I get older, my understanding of that unity (between Islam and Christianity) gets deeper,” she said. “The unity for God is the basis of unity of everything. If there is only one God, we are all so intimately connected with that God, no matter how human history, culture, politics and entertainment will portray that otherwise.”

Ann and I ended our conversation with one another by singing a few Christian and Muslim songs together. If anyone has seen me do karaoke knows I make Rebecca Black look like Aretha Franklin. But there was something about being in Ann’s presence that gave me no hesitation to sing along with her. Our brains might think differently when it comes to worshiping God, but for that short moment, we were on the same page sharing a moment singing God’s praise.

She gets that question A LOT and I didn’t want to do the same kind of interview just about every reporter does with her. But you can read about her specific views here. I wasn’t interested in debating her let alone do I ever feel like that’s what my role should be. Instead of me asking her what she believes, I was more interested in why she believes in it. What is the spiritual journey she’s taken on to get to this point and how have people responded to her?

Re: Can you be Christian and Muslim at the same time?

So long as you do not worship Isa (AS) then all Muslims are already Christians in a manner of speaking.

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The word Christian does not exist anywhere in the Bible and so is a made up word. Jesus himself was a Muslim as he totally submitted to the will of Allah. So I think it is the other way around. As long as Christians do not associate anyone with Allah and accept Muhammad Sallallahu alaihi wasallam as the final messenger then they are Muslim.

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huh!!! it's like saying one can be a 'gadha' [Donkey] and an ULLOO [owl] ... what a moronic thing to do!

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So you mean to say that all Christians are Muslims then ?
Then what Psyah is saying is no different than what you are saying . Naak idher say parkro ya udher say baat aik hee hay k nahi ?

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Peace Hamza81

I meant what I said ... and there was a motive behind saying it that way ... It is irrespective whether the term Chrisitan does not exist in the Bible, the fact that the word exists today and is commonly understood is the reason behind why I used it. A Christian would need to be more than merely accepting Muhammad (SAW) as final messenger and not doing Shirk, because their teachings are skewed from what Isa (AS) had revealed to them. On the other hand a Muslim of today would be who Isa (AS) would recognise if he were to return today as the flag bearers of "The Kingdom of God on Earth" ... and consequentially we lay greater claim to him (AS) than the Christians.

The Muslims of today are more Christian than the Christians, more Jewish than the Jews ... we already accept all the prophets before Muhammad (SAW) and because of this I was alluding to the smallest possible path where it can be considered that a person is both Christian and Muslim. Also since the OP mentioned the person was first a Christian it makes sense to present the response in the terms that I related.

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LOL , Hamza will be more confused now.

Re: Can you be Christian and Muslim at the same time?

jews, christians, muslims - we all say La illaha illal la

Its the Muhammadur Rasoolullah that differentiates us from them.

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shirk and tawheed(Oneness of Allah) cannot coexist in the heart of a believer.

Re: Can you be Christian and Muslim at the same time?

I'm with Psyah. Muslim cannot be a Muslim until s/he accepts every prophet sent by Allah. Muslim is a Jew first, then Christian but does not believe in some of the things today's Jews or Christians follow or do.

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if she is christian and Muslim at the same time then it clearly shows, she is not a Muslim and not accepted Islam by heart.. if she had read about religion Islam thoroughly, she would never choose Christian as a second religion.. it never matters if you are christian and then a Muslim but it matters when you are Muslim & then you say you are a Christian too..
so No- she cant be in both religions.. if she chooses Islam, then she should ONLY BE MUSLIM!!

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GREAT EXAMPLE!!

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this is all semantics...in order to be a "christian", one must accept that Jesus died on the cross for the sins of mankind, and thus came the Holy Trinity of the father, the son and the holy spirit....so no, you cannot *be christian *and muslim at the same time. as apricot stated above, for muslims, shirk & tawheed cannot coexist, and if you're "christian" and don't believe in the holy trinity, than that is jacked up too.... that's why Pluralism sounds good in concept, but can never be...

Re: Can you be Christian and Muslim at the same time?

You cannot. There are many fundamental differences.

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I don’t get what she means by how she’s both Christian and Muslim. Does she believe in Islam, but is culturally Christian (i.e. identifies with Christian culture and considers herself a part of it since she’s been brought up as a Christian)? :konfused: What are her views on Isa (AS)?

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Muslims believes in Isa (as) and the prophets that came before him. So in this manner, a muslim is also a christian since he believes in the truthfulness of Isa(as) and believes in the prophecies in old and new testaments about prophet muhammad(pbuh). So in this manner they are even greater believers in Isa (as).
Having said that, it is quite apparent that current christians have definitely swayed away from the teachings of Isa (as) and elevated him to the level of son of God and started worshiping him. Invented ideas of atonement, salvation , confession that cannot co-exist with Islam. Actually, present day Christianity is not Christianity, it is Paulism and its derivates.

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It seems that she has seen the truthfulness of Islam but still is emotionally attached to Christianity.

Though Islam is continuous of Tawheed (monotheism); it has taken a complete break from them. (Even the Qibla was changed from Jerusalem to Makkah al Mukkarama.

Only religion that is acceptable to Allah (swt) is Islam as it clear from the following Ayahs.

O believers enter into Islam completely and do not follow the footsteps of Shaitan, surely he is your clear-cut enemy.
If you falter after receiving the clear-cut message, then keep in mind that Allah is Mighty, Wise.
Are they waiting for Allah to come down to them in the shadow of clouds, along with the angels, and make His decision known? Ultimately all matters will be presented to Allah for decision. * *
(Quran 2: 208-210)**

"This day I have perfected your religion for you, completed My favor upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion." (Quran 5:3)*
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O you who believe! Fear Allah as He should be feared, and die not except in a state of Islam.* *( Quran 3:102)
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The following hadith clearly shows that Prophet (saw) forbade Muslims to seek any Guidance for the Bible.

*Jabir Bin Abdullah reports that once Umar Bin al-Khattab read Torah (Old Testament), which he had received from a Jew, to the Prophet who got angry and said: “O the son of al-Khattab, are you embarrassed?

By the One in whose hands is my life, I have brought to you something which is pure and immaculate. Don’t ask them(the Jews) anything. There is a possibility that they tell you the truth and you refute it, or they tell you the false and you confirm it.

By the One in whose hands is my life, even if Musa were alive today he would have followed me.” (Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, Hadith no. 4736)

Jabir Bin Abdullah told how `Umar b. al-Khattab brought God's messenger a copy of the Torah (Old Testament) saying, "Messenger of God, this is a copy of the Torah."

When he received no reply he began to read to the obvious displeasure of God's messenger, so Abu Bakr said, "Confound you, do you not see how God's messenger is looking?"

So `Umar looked at God's messenger's face and said, "I seek refuge in God from the anger of God and His messenger. We are satisfied with God as Lord, with Islam as religion, and with Muhammad as Prophet."

Then God's messenger said, "By Him in whose hand Muhammad's soul is, were Moses to appear to you and you were to follow him and abandon me, you would err from the right way. Were he alive and came in touch with my prophetic mission he would follow me." **Sunan al-Darimi*

I hope and pray that with time she will enter Islam completely and make a clean break from her past.

Re: Can you be Christian and Muslim at the same time?

:jazak:

Re: Can you be Christian and Muslim at the same time?

what kind of a question u are askin???our qalma tayyba has clear every thing that you can't worship any one except Allah so i don't think there is so much to confuse.