May I pose you one question?
Would not it be that the scientists could not properly explain the definition of God or what is God ,so they came up with a theory like Big Bang and and tried to dodge their in-efficiency in resolving the mystery surrounding the creator/creation of this universe?
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To have faith on God, I don’t need to mock scientific theories
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May I pose you one question?
Would not it be that the scientists could not properly explain the definition of God or what is God ,so they came up with a theory like Big Bang and and tried to dodge their in-efficiency in resolving the mystery surrounding the creator/creation of this universe?
If you stop and think about it for a moment, there mere fact that we 'exist' is a total amazing fact that science might never be able to explain. Things. Just. Exist. I don't think human brain would ever be able to comprehend it at all.
It is like asking a book to describe its writer or asking a poem to define the poet. Books and poems give you hints about the personality of writer or poet, but can never 'define' them. So, if God exists, then the analogy would be that the poet defines the poetry, not the other way around.
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^amazing post
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The Quran tells its reader (Muslim or otherwise) to look around you, to ponder over the creation.
Science depends upon observation. What do your complex body systems and those of the world tell you about its creator? In its intricate organization, does one not see brilliance and balance and wisdom and care and concern?
One of the indirect way of proving God is to verify the credibility of the book(s) of God. If one can find Noah's ark, or prove that Red Sea was parted 500-600 B.C ... then it will be a good start
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There was a thread about arguments. When you know whatever you say the other side is entrenched in its position.
As some correctly stated, debating this is pointless.
What is a pity is some participants who are vigorously championing God and existence of proof hardly ever contribute to scientific discussions.
God knows best.
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On the other hand, it keeps the posts count and viewership high in Science forum. That can only be good.
God does work in mysterious ways.
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One of the indirect way of proving God is to verify the credibility of the book(s) of God. If one can find Noah's ark, or prove that Red Sea was parted 500-600 B.C ... then it will be a good start
I thought archeological evidence for Noah's Ark had already been found. Look into that, there are some youtube videos and articles on it.
I'm not directing this at you, I'm just speaking for myself. I think that our planet, it's position in the universe, sun, moon, various natural systems are no less miraculous than Noah's ark or the splitting of the Red Sea. Allah often talks about how we were created from fluid...and even that is miraculous. So, the one who has made all these things that we both depend and marvel upon can totally split the red sea...that it's believable...even if there's no physical evidence of it.
I totally agree with you. In fact in the documentary that I mentioned, a priest said something great. He said that the universe was not created out of a chance, but out of a necessity.
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Lots of perfect circles in this thread. Must be God's work.
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I totally agree with you. In fact in the documentary that I mentioned, a priest said something great. He said that the universe was not created out of a chance, but out of a necessity.
That's interesting. What I don't understand is the belief that God created us and doesn't care or that we were created in vain. The intricate workings of the systems reflects so much care, an interconnected care.
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Lots of perfect circles in this thread. Must be God's work.
Just because you don't believe that our arguments prove anything about the nature of God much less His existence....doesn't mean that you should mock God (if you happen to believe in his existence) and those who believe in Him.
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That's interesting. What I don't understand is the belief that God created us and doesn't care or that we were created in vain. The **intricate workings **of the systems reflects so much care, an interconnected care.
you really dont know the human body, do you? or any other biological system...
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that is beside the point.
Please read my post, bring forth any rational argument please.
If you cant, please admit. 
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you really dont know the human body, do you? or any other biological system...
I don't care for the snideness; and it certainly won't be your first time. I do not know the human body as well as a doctor, but I know that it's not me controlling my circulatory system, my nervous system, my lymphatic system, etc etc. It's not me that created the cells with their unique shapes and specific functions. If you get a paper cut, it's not the bandaid that heals it and it's certainly not you that controls the functions of your white blood cells and platelets and the production of the protein, fibrin, all of which come together to remove bacteria and patch you up. Is that intricate enough for you, Phil? It's not me that created the solar system and placed our planet in a position that allows for the sustaining of various forms of life. It's not me who created the water cycle, even water alone with it's various properties such as that of being a universal solvent are amazing. You need proof of my in-depth knowledge of various biological systems to know if God exists. For me, the knowledge that I am neither the creator of these systems, nor the maintainer of these systems, and EVEN my inability to totally grasp them is a humbling reinforcement of the existence of a creator, and one that could not have created in jest.
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you got it all wrong :S it's the other way around...nice try
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Just because you don't believe that our arguments prove anything about the nature of God much less His existence....doesn't mean that you should mock God (if you happen to believe in his existence) and those who believe in Him.
When you come to a Science thread and just gin up stuff unrelated to Science, expect to be called on it. Leave religion and science separate.
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Kaunsa post. Number 19
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The deep ocean being dark isn’t 50/50 its obvious it would be dark.
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When you come to a Science thread and just gin up stuff unrelated to Science, expect to be called on it. Leave religion and science separate.
Expect to be called on it? You were not just "calling on it" you were mocking posters in several posts and that is neither cool, nor mature.
The question of the thread is can you define God by science? I answered it based on my own interpretation of this rather broad question. Or does our interpretation HAVE to mirror your own in order for you to display a bit tact? Live n let live, haina? I do feel that an observation of the various systems in the world....(that scientists study) ...can provide some insight about God. It's like an archaeologist trying to understand the people of a civilized based upon a few artifacts. Thankfully, God has given us more than a few artifacts from which we can try to define or understand him.