Can we defeat them???

No, I’m not talking about the Indian cricket team visiting Pakistan(our beautiful Land of Pure), but I’m talking about the global terrorists. Quite frankly, I think that we cannot defeat terrorists. The world is fighting a borderless, faceless, unstopable enemy. I know I sound so politically incorrect, but that’s the reality. It is a cancer. And ask any surgeon, and they will tell you, that in treating a cancer, they just dont cut the branches, they focus on the roots of the cancer.
So what do we do you ask, give up? Actually yes, but in a face saving fashion. Now how do we do that, you ask again? Well in my opinion, first and foremost, we need to bring all the groups into the main frame, meaning no more designating them as terrorist groups(practically, it does’nt do good anyway, they still get their money from somewhere). In my opinion, once brought into the main politics, it would be easier for the world community to strike deals, and do negotiations. Groups like Hamas, Hizbollah, LTTE etc., once brought into the main political framework, the groups will be automatically infiltrated by the local population with the moderates, educated young blood. At the same time, we also need to adopt a robust policy of resolving conflicts without taking anybody’s sides.
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Not naming any names... but what if many of these groups don't want to come into mainstream? What if they feel, their message won't get acceptance, anyway, so might as well, just stay on the fringes and keep blowing things up?

How will you deal with that?

This Genie is out of the bottle. It will be with us forever....

Defeating terrorism takes a multi-prong approach, military force is only one of those prongs. Why these terror organizations have support must to be examined. As Prism pointed out in another thread the hatred of Israel is used by many Islamic terror organizations as a recruiting tool so a policy to eliminate that hatred is necessary, ie: supporting the creation of a Palestine state and thus helping remove the Israel hatred recruitment tool. While these terror organizations use such tools that might be of (semi)popular thought the core foundation of these groups can not be dealt with diplomatically as they stand for means by violence, hence there use of terror. Remove the broad recruitment tools and these terror organizations based on violence and hate will dissipate and weaken.

find the cause of "terrorism" and it will be defeated.

Prism ji, groups like Hamas, Hizbollah already enjoy a massive support among the local population. So IMO, its not a question of if they want to join the main stream politics, the question rather should be are we going to accept them in main stream politics? Like Underthedome mentioned, many of these groups have blood on their hands, so I can understand people/governments hestitation to negotiate a deal with them? But this approach is all good on papers, but in real politics, I dont think its a very effective approach. In Afghanistan, we are at the moment in the process of dealing with the war lords(Dostum, Abdullah etc.), lets not forget, we are also dealing with the brutal dictator of Uzbekistan, who is well known for his inhumane treatment of his political rivals.

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Defeating terrorism takes a multi-prong approach, military force is only one of those prongs.
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I absolutely agree.

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Why these terror organizations have support must to be examined.
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They enjoy massive support among the local population, because they think that these groups are the only ones who can defend them form the enemies(Isrealis).

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As Prism pointed out in another thread the hatred of Israel is used by many Islamic terror organizations as a recruiting tool so a policy to eliminate that hatred is necessary, ie: supporting the creation of a Palestine state and thus helping remove the Israel hatred recruitment tool.
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No question about it, and this is where my suggestion kicks in, bring in these groups to the main frame, and these groups will be automatically infiltrated with the local population who hopefully will be moderate and educated.

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While these terror organizations use such tools that might be of (semi)popular thought the core foundation of these groups can not be dealt with diplomatically as they stand for means by violence, hence there use of terror.
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I can understand the hesitation of the world community to negotiate with these kinda groups, but the eground reality is that if we dont deal with these groups who else can we deal with?

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Remove the broad recruitment tools and these terror organizations based on violence and hate will dissipate and weaken.
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All these tactics have already been tried, with no apparent success. There funds were capped, but somehow they are still getting there funding from somewhere.

face it

there will be terrorism for a very long time. as i said before, it is a natural reaction to opression - and, let's face it.... opression is not going to be absterged in our life time.

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find the cause of "terrorism" and it will be defeated.
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The cause of terrorism is to create terror. Everything else is likely an excuse.

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The cause of terrorism is to create terror.

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Wrong. No one wants terror.

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Everything else is likely an excuse.
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Fighting terrorism is an much better excuse.

Maybe try

Asking the so-called terrorists what it is they want in the scheme of life?

Not what they want at the moment....but what it is that they are fighting for in the game called LIFE?

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probobly politically incorrect.

But I don't think it ever hurts to listen.

Then talk.

Then negotiate.