The way I see it most of Islam is based on the teachings and sayings of a “Man”. I would like to present some points which prove my POV.
Quran = Word of God.
Hadees = Words of Human being.
Sunnat = Actions of Human being.
Islam = Quran + Hadees + Sunnat. Which implies human injection in Islam by 1:2 ratio in favor of Human Injection.
Islam - (Hadees + sunnat) = No way to know how to pray or what to pray. And the whole concept of Islam.
So IMO Quran was incomplete and was completed by a Human being. No doubt the Human Being was very wise, just and true but was still a human being, with all the rest of the human needs proved by the way He led His life. He was born normally, He worked like everybody else, He had carnal desires like everybody else, He got injured, bled and felt pain like everybody else and finally he passed away like everybody. Considering all this probably He had the tempatations as everybody else. Now please tell me what are the chances considering all this that Islam is pure.
I am not trying to be disrespectful to anybody here but are some question which always boggle my mind.
Islam = Quran + Hadees + Sunnat. Which implies human injection in Islam by 1:2 ratio in favor of Human Injection.
Islam - (Hadees + sunnat) = No way to know how to pray or what to pray. And the whole concept of Islam.
So IMO Quran was incomplete and was completed by a Human being. No doubt the Human Being was very wise, just and true but was still a human being, with all the rest of the human needs proved by the way He led His life. He was born normally, He worked like everybody else, He had carnal desires like everybody else, He got injured, bled and felt pain like everybody else and finally he passed away like everybody. Considering all this probably He had the tempatations as everybody else. Now please tell me what are the chances considering all this that Islam is pure.
I am not trying to be disrespectful to anybody here but are some question which always boggle my mind.
You are opinion and point of view is incorrect. He does not speak out of his own desire. It is naught but revelation that is revealed. (The Holy Quran 53:4-5)
The tafseer of this is that even his (salAllahualaihiwasallam) sayings were revelation and they were inspired.
I suggest that you read and study the Quran thoroughly before you say these things.
The tafseer of this is that even his (salAllahualaihiwasallam) sayings were revelation and they were inspired.
I suggest that you read and study the Quran thoroughly before you say these things.
Been there done that. But I am not a Haafiz so finding the references is a bit problem.
BTW the Ayah which you have given is talking about when says he has revelations, it is definately not about whatever Hazoor used to say in his life. And whose tafseer are you reffering here.
Tafseer = Insaani interpretation = Human injection = can be as many as you want.
There are two sorts of people in this world. One who can clearly see how there existence in this world is obviously done by some superior power (GOD) & of course the other sort won't believe anything even if GOD himself came down here and said wordship me cause they'll still have questions/problems.
Time is expiring buddy - put it to good use. You'll die just asking questions.
Brilliantly attempted. A set of incosequential questions implying that Islam can not survive. You have already made your choice on the matter. Are you really going to change your mind? I doubt it. So why do you waste our time?
Tafseer = Insaani interpretation = Human injection = can be as many as you want.
First of all, you cannot make these interpretations yourself. Like you said you are not even a Haafidh, so you should keep your interpretations of the Quran to yourself otherwise refer to scholars who have spent their entire lives studying the Quran.
Secondly I use Tafseer of ibn Kathir, and that is the best Tafseer out there. The reason is that Imam ibn Kathir first uses the Quran to interpret the Ayaat, then Ahadeeth and then the sayings of the Sahabaah and early scholars.
In ibn Kathir's tafseer, it says that this is referring to the Prophet not speaking from his desires and that what he says is revelation.
You said "it is definately not about whatever Hazoor used to say in his life", what is your proof to back up this claim?
In ibn Kathir's tafseer, it says that this is referring to the Prophet not speaking from his desires and that what he says is revelation.
You said "it is definately not about whatever Hazoor used to say in his life", what is your proof to back up this claim?
the way it was written by you.
can you give me any site where I can down load Ibn katheer. thanx for the input.
CM my name is Light Bearer please note it down and do not open my threads again. You can save your time man I never invited you to come read this.
Let me remind you who is being incoherrent now, the thread is not Islam cannot survive, read carefully it says can it survive without man. Hope its clear now. Now don't waste anymore time.
Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) once saw a few Jews walking by with a dead body over there shoulders. He felt bad and seemed upset - companions asked him why is he feeling bad for the non believers?
He replied saying that they are part of my Ummah - I wasn't successful in making him a believer.
(Nothing is quoted because I over heard this in a conversation at a mosque once but I don't remember the exact words)
I agree with sherafghan and Rockistan that Hadeeth is inspired by Allah, however,
at times i think of Muhammad saw as a human being and imagine how he single handedly transformed a nation and how he overcame fierce rivalry. It gives me enormous inspiration.
I agree with sherafghan and Rockistan that Hadeeth is inspired by Allah, however,
at times i think of Muhammad saw as a human being and imagine how he single handedly transformed a nation and how he overcame fierce rivalry. It gives me enormous inspiration.
I agree with sherafghan and Rockistan that Hadeeth is inspired by Allah, however,
at times i think of Muhammad saw as a human being and imagine how he single handedly transformed a nation and how he overcame fierce rivalry. It gives me enormous inspiration.
I agree with sherafghan and Rockistan that Hadeeth is inspired by Allah, however,
at times i think of Muhammad saw as a human being and imagine how he single handedly transformed a nation and how he overcame fierce rivalry. It gives me enormous inspiration.
you can go to www.tafsir.com to read the abridged version of Tafsir of ibn Kathir
this site is almost always down, but there’s this chm file which i am attaching to this post, it’s basically a local version of the website
for those who are not familiar with these sciences, it will give them a better appreciation of the work of scholars with regards to the Quran and Hadith