Can God Create a Rock So Heavy He Can't Lift It?

How would you answer an aethiest if he asks this question. The reason I am bringing athiest is because you can only use human logic and not quotes from Quran and Hadees (as he is going to reject them because of disbelief).

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Thats a good questions from logic point of view. God can create anything, so by that logic he can create a rock he cant lift. But, at the same time, God can do anything, so by that logic He can lift the rock, that he cant lift???

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In essence, God by definition is the entity that can do anything, hence can create a rock of any size and still can lift it.

BTW, why a real God needs to lift a rock anyways. He will order his army of angels to do it for him i guess.

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The best answer for this came from a Christian.

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[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][size=2][/size]Can God create a rock too heavy for Him to lift? If God is infinitely powerful then He is able to lift anything. Thus, there can be nothing too heavy for Him to lift. The only way for there to be a rock too heavy for God to lift is if God's strength had a limit. God's strength and power do not have a limit, thus nothing can be too heavy for Him to lift. Once again, the question is not one of omnipotence, but rather one of existence. A rock too heavy for God to lift cannot exist, because God is able to lift anything.
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I dont think that above is the best explanation, cause although its debating on the lifting strentght of the God, its indirectly downplaying the creating strentght of his as it did not address that aspect of the question.

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If he believes there is a God then he is not an athiest.

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Yeah, but what he says is basically true. The only way a rock could be so heavy that God could not lift it is if HIS strength had a limit. Which it doesn't.

Anyways, I feel odd even talking about what Allah can do. I mean, we are talking about the Creator of The Universe. A universe whose diameter is 80 Billion light years. And now there is evidence that there might be other universes, held in a multiverse. Just my personal view. We humans know almost nothing yet.

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though NOTHING is impossible for Almighty but mujhe aik sher yaad agaya:

A poet talking to God:

Nikaal De Mujhe Apni Khudai Se Bahar
Khata Maaf, Ke Ye Kaam Tere Bus Ka Nahin..

the couplet is said in the context that k Agar tum koi gunah karna chahtay ho to koi aisi jaga talash karo jahan Allah na dekh paye..

I just wanna ask kia ye wakai possible nahi Allah k leay k wo kisi ko apni khudai se bahar nikaalay? there isn't anything jo Allah ki na ho.. or there is?

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Shaitaan ko Allah na upni khudai say nikaal deeya tha

Allah sab kuch ker sakta hai, mitta bhi sakta hai aur baidaar bhi ker sakta hai

as far as the topic is concerned, then my answer is yes!!!!

when he has created universe that has still not been fully discovered then u never know that there might be such a rock so heavy...........

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maybe the whole goal of this trick question is to prove that there is no God

Good question. Allah can throw someone outside his Khudai means throwing someone away from any future blessings (like Iblees) but it does not mean that Allah no longer controls that person's destiny.

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Shaitan ko Khudai se nahi nikala tha, instead he was kicked out of Jannah on his act of not doing sajda to Hazrat Adam.. There isn't any place jahan Khuda mojuud na ho.. jo Khudai main shamil na ho..


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magar, the poet or me takes its as if there is any place where God can't see us? jo Khuda ki khudai main mojood na ho?

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Shaitaan ko aik terha say nikaal deeya tha… my explanation is not definite…

bay shak koi zara aisa nahi hai jo khuda ki nazr mein na ho…

shaitaan nay inkaar ker deeya tha sajda say, kyun kay wo kehta tha mein aik bunai huwi cheez ko sajda nahi ker sakta :hmmm:

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as I reply above, Allah can throw someone outside his Khudai means throwing someone away from any future blessings (like Iblees) but it does not mean that Allah no longer controls that person’s destiny.

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naah, he refused as he considered Fire (his material) superior to Clay (man material)..

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I really dont understand that how can ppl worship fire

i know a Irani firl who worships fire :smack:

yaani Shaitaan nay aag ko mitti kay insaan per tarjeeh di thi… hmmmmmm

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^ yeah.. :)

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I think the best answer and shortest one to the question is:

Yes no.

Like question like answer.

What can the atheist do now?

He will argue that say yes or no, but not both because it has two contradictory answers together.

You can say: Sorry dude, first you change the question because it has two contradictory questions together.

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someone asked me that question when i was in 11th standard .. :| i dun remember what i answered .. .

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The question of the atheist person is illogical. He doesn't seem to understand the definition of GOD.

It's like asking a person If they can make a circle which looks like a square. LOL Illogical.

That's the Christian definition. In Islam Allah SWT can't do everything like in Christianity. Certain things such as turning into a man or have a son or show himself to humans etc. etc. If Allah SWT would do that it wouldn't fit the definition of God anymore because Allah SWT is unlike all his creation.