The thread starter has ultimately taken the topic away from the title.
On one hand he is asking about the comparison of the acting of the actors in bollywood and hollywood and on the other hand he is accusing bollywood actors for not being as talented as the hollywood's one.
If these are his personal views then he must have stated the differences b/w the artists of the world's 2 biggest entertainment industries.
"I never wept watching any bollywood movie" - what a crap??? i wud tell this kid to go and look for Rajender Kumar's 60s flicks.
As far as acting is concerned, today Tom Cruise stands as the top actor and i'll rate his acting purely DISASTER.
Hollywood is a rich industry, almost 20 times more than bollywood. The future of the hollywood films lie much more in animations's skills than the talent of the performing actors See - Narnia, Spiderman etc. to name a few.
Whereas Bollywood movies are popular on the basis of their film subject 'n' story, acting skills, live emotions and performing talent of the actors, see latest ones like Rang De Basanti.
I cant rate any actor in the whole world against Rani Mukherji's performance in the oscar nominated black.
Oscar is giving awards for the last 78 years, but no Hindi film has ever won any international award. During the 78 years history of Oscar Awards, only 3 Hindi movies were nominated but no movie has won any award so far. The three movies during the last 78 years, nominated for Oscar awards were Mother India, Gandhi, and Lagaan. Not even any Hindi film has ever been selected for any other international awards like Genies Awards.
Usually the films which win international awards have some message for the public. Hindi films do not give any message either to Bharatiya community or to the world. If at all there is any message the Hindi films give, is that let Bharat, its culture, languages, civilization go to hell, just pay attention to having good time and making money by serving garbage to the masses.
No Bharatiya culture or anything associated with Bharat is shown in Hindi films.
In all Hindi films, lots of men are shown showing doing dance on the roads, which gives impression as if Bharat is a nation of Hijdas or male prostitute. No body is ever shown doing any productive work.
There is a norm in the world that a film gives cast in the language in which it is made, but Hindi film is the only exception in the world. Film is in Hindi but cast is in English. What is the point giving cast in English? If people are going to see a Hindi movie, then Hindi film views would not turn off by just looking Hindi words written in Devanagri script. By giving cast of Hindi films in English, film industry is giving message to the world that Bharat is still a slave nation and there is no Bharatiya language good enough, developed and mature to express Bharat and its culture in any Bharatiya languages.
Hindi films completely ignoring Devanagri
Devanagri script is one the most perfect and scientific script in the world. Even then Devanagri script is completely ignored by Hindi media and commercial people.
In this context, I quote a few lines from Ripley’s Believe it or Not:
“Devanagri used in Bharat is the most perfect alphabet in the world. Its 52 letters and 18 letters-combinations include every sound human lips can produce -- yet a word spelled in Devanagiri can not be mispronounced.”
There are other qualities of the Devanagri alphabet that entitle it to be described as the most scientific alphabet possible. Thus in the Roman you have a, b, c, d, etc. ---absolutely no reason why they should be arranged in this order. In the Arabic alphabet you have Alif, bey, gim, pay, te, etc.; in Greek - Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta etc. One will find that there is not any sequence in this arrangement at all.
By contrast in the Devanagri alphabet you have all the vowels placed at the beginning. We shall notice that the vowels are pronounced from the throat. Then come the consonants, ka varga the five letters beginning with ka are all again pronounced from the throat. Then comes the Cha varga, they are pronounced with the tongue being attached to the palate (talu), then comes the Ta varga – all five of the group are pronounced with the tongue attached to the murdha or the roof of the palate; the then Taa varga – they are pronounced with the tongue attached to the danta or teeth, then the Pa varga – the five letters beginning with Pa – they are Ostha Varna. The lips must be closed for pronouncing them. Throat, palate, roof of the palate, teeth and lips in sequence – what a wonderful scientific alphabet is this! And yet there are fool in Bharat who want to change to Roman script for Hindi and other Bharatiya languages for uniformity in the world.
By writing cast of Hindi film in English and commercial people also by ignoring Hindi on the labels of the commercial products, they are creating obstacles in spreading Hindi and these people also act against the national interest of Bharat. By giving cast of Hindi films in English and writing only English on the labels of the products, these people are spreading English only in Bharat.
Entertainment industry of Bharat has converted Hindi language into a Boli. This Boli is such that this type of Boli contains more Urdu and English words than Hindi words. If one to learn Hindi by watching Hindi films then he /she is under the wrong impression. By watching Hindi films one would pick few Urdu and English words than Hindi words.
Hindi media people completely ignore Hindi but make money on the name of Hindi.
These media help do not help in spreading Rastra Bhasha Hindi.
Nowadays even the name of Hindi movies is in English. More than 90% Hindi movies have English names nowadays. Some examples are: Retake, Neil n Nikki, Water, Bluff Master, Family, Bold, Home Delivery, Where is the Party Yaar, Fight Club etc.
Without a Rashtra Bhasha, there can't be a nation. We are divided between so many parameters and don't have anything which every Bharatiya can call his and hers. They are willing to make English as their national language but not Hindi. I just don't understand why there is so much hatred against Hindi. They watch Hindi movies but when it comes to promoting the Hindi language, they always back-off. People who degrade their own language can never be expected to do any good thing for their country.
All the media and commercial people make use of Hindi for making money but they do not contribute to promote Hindi. I am fully convinced that the promotion of Hindi would do us and our children good.
A very serious Hindu situation in Bharat.
What Bharat got today is not Independence but lawlessness, sham constitution, over 50% illiteracy, and corrupt lawmakers. BHARAT MERA MAHAN. Film industry does not take up such topics.
Look at these Hindi media people, who claim to promote Bharatiya culture 'exclusively' through English language. These media people are not promoting any culture except promoting themselves for making fast money. These media people have no pride in Bharat.
The knowledge of the Hindi media people of the culturally important Bharatiya monuments begs belief and their grasp topics for 'cultural promotion' is dictated by their search for making quick money.
For Bharatiya people, these are the enemies of Bharat and Bhaaratiyataa.
Shame on Hindi film Industry
One wonders why Bollywood industry is known as Hindi films industry. Hindi films use more Turkish, Arabic, Farsi, Urdu and English than Hindi words. Cast of Hind film is in English, while it is a norm in the world that a film carries the cast in the language in which it is made. Hindi film is the only exception in the world. Now days many films do not bother even to write the name of Hindi film in Hindi. Even no where Hindi is written on the covers of DVD, audio cassettes, even on posters of Hindi films.
All the people associated with Hindi film industry do not like even to speak in Hindi, although these people make films in so called Hindi (actually now a days it is more English / Urdu) films). In February 2006, a film festival took place in Germany. In this film festival, Yash Chopra was a member of Jury.
Germany broadcasts program in Hindi once a day for 45 minutes. Hindi of Radio German is just Chalu Hindi usually spoken by road Chaap, uneducated or less educated people but it is still known as Hindi program,
In its Hindi service, Radio German invited Yash Chopra for a talk. In this program Yash Chopra spoke only in English. He forgot that he was invited to Hindi program as he makes films which are called Hindi but contains more English.
Some time ago Shah Rukh was also invited by Radio German in its Hindi service. Shah Rukh Khan spoke very few words in Hindi, but mainly he spoke in English.
Why these English slave Hindi media people do not move to England and live there, or why they make films in Hindi if they are to promote English all the time?
Shame on people associated with Hindi film industry, who promotes English at every step rather than promoting Hindi. For Hindi film media, Hindi is just like a prostitute, all the Hindi media people live on the earning made through prostitute. Hindi media people are no more than Bhaduaas.
These bhaudaas not only get money by illegal methods, but spread English, Turkish, Arabic, Farsi and Urdu in the world.
Hindi films must carry cast in Hindi
In the world there is a system that a film carries the cast in the language in which it is made, but Hindi film is the only exception in the world. Film is in Hindi but cast is in English.
Not only that even on the covers of DVD's no where Hindi is written. AT one time it used to be written that language of film is Hindi. Now that section has been converted to Title of film. While name of film is written all around in English, in that section where word Hindi was written in English there is also name of film in English.
If some unknown person sees the DVD, he/she will think it is English film.
Nowadays there is more English, Turkish, Arabic, Farsi, and Urdu than Hindi in Hindi films. In the two most recent films Devkai and 15 - Park Ave. more English is spoken than Hindi.
Now a days many Americans also want to learn Hindi. If they never see how Hindi is written, then how they would learn Hindi?
One British girl whose father was from Uttar Pradesh wanted to learn Hindi. She saw more than Hundred Hindi films, but still cannot tell how Hindi is written. She just picked few Urdu words from Hindi films.
Are the Bharatiya people still slave people?
But Bharatiya people are still dhimmitude people.
A language can only spread if it is visible all around. By teaching Hindi in schools will play its part, but the main point is it must be seen all around.
Hindi can be seen all round if:-
Hindi films and TV programs give cast in Hindi
Commercial people write Hindi on at least 50% part of the labels
Sign boards are in Hindi
Leaflets and flyers are in Hindi
Hindi is written on the wrapping materials and packing boxes
Shop keepers put their signs in Hindi
Newspapers and magazines show that part of advertisement where Hindi is written and some other such steps.
Hindi Language must be included in US schools curriculum, in all the schools of Bharat and in those countries where Bharatiya people live. There are many, many such schools in Bharat where Hindi is not taught.
Until some laws are made, no film producer will give cast of Hindi film in Hindi, commercial people would not write Hindi on the labels of their products.
Bharatiya government should make some laws which would force Hindi film producers to give cast of Hindi films in Hindi, write Hindi on the covers of the DVDs. Actors must speak pure Hindi in Hindi films free from English, Turkish, Arabic, Farsi and Urdu languages.
Hindi is national language of Bharat. It is the duty of all ministers and government officers to promote and spread pure Hindi.
All ministers, Chief Ministers, members of parliament, members of assemblies must take some steps which would promote Hindi and make Hindi visible all around.
Hindi media people are slave people
All the Hindi media people bring Pakistanis on air in their Hindi services. For all Pakistani journalists even Urdu is Hindi language. No Pakistani journalist can speak Hindi.
On the top of that, when Hindi journalist start asking questions from Pakistani journalists, they start speaking Urdu in stead of Hindi in their Hindi service. If Pakistani journalists are speaking in Hindi programs, even then they should be able to understand Hindi. Hindi journalists pay more attention to the Urdu knowledge of Pakistani journalists than keeping in mind the Hindi listeners. They forget that they have more than million Hindi listeners, and many Hindi listeners would not understand the spoken Urdu by Hindi journalists and Pakistani journalists. The Hindi journalists keep in mind Pakistani journalists than the Hindi listeners, who may not understand their spoken Urdu. Hindi journalists spread more Urdu and make Urdu words more popular than Hindi words.
But all Hindi journalists are slave people and have dimwitted views.
When they talk to their former colonial masters for Hindi service, then in stead talking in Hindi Bharatiya journalists start talking in Urdu or English as the case may be.
These slave Hindi journalist people spread mental slavery amongst Hindi listeners.
Media people must stop using URDU and English words for Hindi because we have our own rich vocabulary in Hindi then why should we use Urdu which is the national language of Pakistan and the Muslims adore it.
Hindi films do not spread Hindi by ignoring Hindi in the films. Looking at the amount of Urdu, Arabic, Farsi, Turkish, and English languages used in Hindi films, a Pakistani acquaintance remarked that Hindi films will destroy Hindi one day in near future due to putting so much filth in Hindi films. All Hindi film producers, actor/ actresses, and other people associated with Hindi film industry deserve death sentences for not giving proper messages to the public according to the vulture of Bharat and for not providing Hindi in Hindi films.
For winning any international award, just boy meet a girl or a girl meet a boy, or just by copying western world, or showing Bharat a nation of Hijdas or not showing any originality, Bharat will never get any international award.
For winning any international award, film industry will have to make films based on Bharatiya culture and showing the greatness of Bharatiya culture, civilization and languages. Media people still show still a sort of mentally slave nation of Bharatiya people. Slave people do not get respect; slave nations do not get recognization or awards.
Hindi films show mental slavery of Bharat from every respect. Hindi films Film has to show the independence of Bharat by completely abolishing English and Urdu from Hindi films and showing originality in its all films rather than copying western world in any respect what so ever.
We Bharatiya people are so unfortunate that we were kept away from Sanskrit and the Vedas, due to the western education systems we were following blindly, trying to copy anything and everything of western systems, which do not have much spiritual base. The Bharatiya media is also trying to spread western systems all the time. It is our duty to pass on our great heritage ("Paithrukam") to the next generation by all sorts of media.
Bollywood movies are mostly catered for people who are loud,obnoxious and stupid.In order for Bollywood to be taken more seriously or compete with Hollywood they need to make movies which are realistic and apeal to the intelligent people.I thought a bollywood movie called 'rain coat' was a very good movie eventhough I am sure it was'nt a hit in India because of it was realistic.
I guess you have to admit the fact that Bollywood sucks but keep in mind the audience they have to cater for. I mean its like comparing a typical desi's view to a euro's.
Bollywood caters to the uneducated masses of the Indian public where as Hollywood caters to the more sophistacted people.
More complex story lines, non-linear storytelling, mixing special effects and animation, black and white shots, etc add a flavour of uniqueness to hollywood.
Can the Indian director Shaymalan make 6th sense in bollywood, the movie will probably end with the kid praying to a Baghwan and bruce willis coming back to life and singing a song.
see movie making is a "business" and they are concerned most with making money (with a few people sincerely out to promote a "message" ), most bollywood commercial moviemakers must keep the public demand of the viewers in mind. if the public doesnt like watching realistic movies, why should they make them? instead they spend their money glamorizing the movie.
there are great actors in bollywood, paresh rawal, manoj bajpai (late: since he is not the same anymore), sanjay dutt, sharukh khan, rani mukherjee, rajpal yadav, amitabh etc.
Usually the films which win international awards have some message for the public. Hindi films do not give any message either to Bharatiya community or to the world. If at all there is any message the Hindi films give, is that let Bharat, its culture, languages, civilization go to hell, just pay attention to having good time and making money by serving garbage to the masses.
No Bharatiya culture or anything associated with Bharat is shown in Hindi films.
In all Hindi films, lots of men are shown showing doing dance on the roads, which gives impression as if Bharat is a nation of Hijdas or male prostitute. No body is ever shown doing any productive work.
There is a norm in the world that a film gives cast in the language in which it is made, but Hindi film is the only exception in the world. Film is in Hindi but cast is in English. What is the point giving cast in English? If people are going to see a Hindi movie, then Hindi film views would not turn off by just looking Hindi words written in Devanagri script. By giving cast of Hindi films in English, film industry is giving message to the world that Bharat is still a slave nation and there is no Bharatiya language good enough, developed and mature to express Bharat and its culture in any Bharatiya languages.
Hindi films completely ignoring Devanagri
Devanagri script is one the most perfect and scientific script in the world. Even then Devanagri script is completely ignored by Hindi media and commercial people.
In this context, I quote a few lines from Ripley’s Believe it or Not:
“Devanagri used in Bharat is the most perfect alphabet in the world. Its 52 letters and 18 letters-combinations include every sound human lips can produce -- yet a word spelled in Devanagiri can not be mispronounced.”
There are other qualities of the Devanagri alphabet that entitle it to be described as the most scientific alphabet possible. Thus in the Roman you have a, b, c, d, etc. ---absolutely no reason why they should be arranged in this order. In the Arabic alphabet you have Alif, bey, gim, pay, te, etc.; in Greek - Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta etc. One will find that there is not any sequence in this arrangement at all.
By contrast in the Devanagri alphabet you have all the vowels placed at the beginning. We shall notice that the vowels are pronounced from the throat. Then come the consonants, ka varga the five letters beginning with ka are all again pronounced from the throat. Then comes the Cha varga, they are pronounced with the tongue being attached to the palate (talu), then comes the Ta varga – all five of the group are pronounced with the tongue attached to the murdha or the roof of the palate; the then Taa varga – they are pronounced with the tongue attached to the danta or teeth, then the Pa varga – the five letters beginning with Pa – they are Ostha Varna. The lips must be closed for pronouncing them. Throat, palate, roof of the palate, teeth and lips in sequence – what a wonderful scientific alphabet is this! And yet there are fool in Bharat who want to change to Roman script for Hindi and other Bharatiya languages for uniformity in the world.
By writing cast of Hindi film in English and commercial people also by ignoring Hindi on the labels of the commercial products, they are creating obstacles in spreading Hindi and these people also act against the national interest of Bharat. By giving cast of Hindi films in English and writing only English on the labels of the products, these people are spreading English only in Bharat.
Entertainment industry of Bharat has converted Hindi language into a Boli. This Boli is such that this type of Boli contains more Urdu and English words than Hindi words. If one to learn Hindi by watching Hindi films then he /she is under the wrong impression. By watching Hindi films one would pick few Urdu and English words than Hindi words.
Hindi media people completely ignore Hindi but make money on the name of Hindi.
These media help do not help in spreading Rastra Bhasha Hindi.
Nowadays even the name of Hindi movies is in English. More than 90% Hindi movies have English names nowadays. Some examples are: Retake, Neil n Nikki, Water, Bluff Master, Family, Bold, Home Delivery, Where is the Party Yaar, Fight Club etc.
Without a Rashtra Bhasha, there can't be a nation. We are divided between so many parameters and don't have anything which every Bharatiya can call his and hers. They are willing to make English as their national language but not Hindi. I just don't understand why there is so much hatred against Hindi. They watch Hindi movies but when it comes to promoting the Hindi language, they always back-off. People who degrade their own language can never be expected to do any good thing for their country.
All the media and commercial people make use of Hindi for making money but they do not contribute to promote Hindi. I am fully convinced that the promotion of Hindi would do us and our children good.
A very serious Hindu situation in Bharat.
What Bharat got today is not Independence but lawlessness, sham constitution, over 50% illiteracy, and corrupt lawmakers. BHARAT MERA MAHAN. Film industry does not take up such topics.
Look at these Hindi media people, who claim to promote Bharatiya culture 'exclusively' through English language. These media people are not promoting any culture except promoting themselves for making fast money. These media people have no pride in Bharat.
The knowledge of the Hindi media people of the culturally important Bharatiya monuments begs belief and their grasp topics for 'cultural promotion' is dictated by their search for making quick money.
For Bharatiya people, these are the enemies of Bharat and Bhaaratiyataa.
Shame on Hindi film Industry
One wonders why Bollywood industry is known as Hindi films industry. Hindi films use more Turkish, Arabic, Farsi, Urdu and English than Hindi words. Cast of Hind film is in English, while it is a norm in the world that a film carries the cast in the language in which it is made. Hindi film is the only exception in the world. Now days many films do not bother even to write the name of Hindi film in Hindi. Even no where Hindi is written on the covers of DVD, audio cassettes, even on posters of Hindi films.
All the people associated with Hindi film industry do not like even to speak in Hindi, although these people make films in so called Hindi (actually now a days it is more English / Urdu) films). In February 2006, a film festival took place in Germany. In this film festival, Yash Chopra was a member of Jury.
Germany broadcasts program in Hindi once a day for 45 minutes. Hindi of Radio German is just Chalu Hindi usually spoken by road Chaap, uneducated or less educated people but it is still known as Hindi program,
In its Hindi service, Radio German invited Yash Chopra for a talk. In this program Yash Chopra spoke only in English. He forgot that he was invited to Hindi program as he makes films which are called Hindi but contains more English.
Some time ago Shah Rukh was also invited by Radio German in its Hindi service. Shah Rukh Khan spoke very few words in Hindi, but mainly he spoke in English.
Why these English slave Hindi media people do not move to England and live there, or why they make films in Hindi if they are to promote English all the time?
Shame on people associated with Hindi film industry, who promotes English at every step rather than promoting Hindi. For Hindi film media, Hindi is just like a prostitute, all the Hindi media people live on the earning made through prostitute. Hindi media people are no more than Bhaduaas.
These bhaudaas not only get money by illegal methods, but spread English, Turkish, Arabic, Farsi and Urdu in the world.
Hindi films must carry cast in Hindi
In the world there is a system that a film carries the cast in the language in which it is made, but Hindi film is the only exception in the world. Film is in Hindi but cast is in English.
Not only that even on the covers of DVD's no where Hindi is written. AT one time it used to be written that language of film is Hindi. Now that section has been converted to Title of film. While name of film is written all around in English, in that section where word Hindi was written in English there is also name of film in English.
If some unknown person sees the DVD, he/she will think it is English film.
Nowadays there is more English, Turkish, Arabic, Farsi, and Urdu than Hindi in Hindi films. In the two most recent films Devkai and 15 - Park Ave. more English is spoken than Hindi.
Now a days many Americans also want to learn Hindi. If they never see how Hindi is written, then how they would learn Hindi?
One British girl whose father was from Uttar Pradesh wanted to learn Hindi. She saw more than Hundred Hindi films, but still cannot tell how Hindi is written. She just picked few Urdu words from Hindi films.
Are the Bharatiya people still slave people?
But Bharatiya people are still dhimmitude people.
A language can only spread if it is visible all around. By teaching Hindi in schools will play its part, but the main point is it must be seen all around.
Hindi can be seen all round if:-
Hindi films and TV programs give cast in Hindi
Commercial people write Hindi on at least 50% part of the labels
Sign boards are in Hindi
Leaflets and flyers are in Hindi
Hindi is written on the wrapping materials and packing boxes
Shop keepers put their signs in Hindi
Newspapers and magazines show that part of advertisement where Hindi is written and some other such steps.
Hindi Language must be included in US schools curriculum, in all the schools of Bharat and in those countries where Bharatiya people live. There are many, many such schools in Bharat where Hindi is not taught.
Until some laws are made, no film producer will give cast of Hindi film in Hindi, commercial people would not write Hindi on the labels of their products.
Bharatiya government should make some laws which would force Hindi film producers to give cast of Hindi films in Hindi, write Hindi on the covers of the DVDs. Actors must speak pure Hindi in Hindi films free from English, Turkish, Arabic, Farsi and Urdu languages.
Hindi is national language of Bharat. It is the duty of all ministers and government officers to promote and spread pure Hindi.
All ministers, Chief Ministers, members of parliament, members of assemblies must take some steps which would promote Hindi and make Hindi visible all around.
Hindi media people are slave people
All the Hindi media people bring Pakistanis on air in their Hindi services. For all Pakistani journalists even Urdu is Hindi language. No Pakistani journalist can speak Hindi.
On the top of that, when Hindi journalist start asking questions from Pakistani journalists, they start speaking Urdu in stead of Hindi in their Hindi service. If Pakistani journalists are speaking in Hindi programs, even then they should be able to understand Hindi. Hindi journalists pay more attention to the Urdu knowledge of Pakistani journalists than keeping in mind the Hindi listeners. They forget that they have more than million Hindi listeners, and many Hindi listeners would not understand the spoken Urdu by Hindi journalists and Pakistani journalists. The Hindi journalists keep in mind Pakistani journalists than the Hindi listeners, who may not understand their spoken Urdu. Hindi journalists spread more Urdu and make Urdu words more popular than Hindi words.
But all Hindi journalists are slave people and have dimwitted views.
When they talk to their former colonial masters for Hindi service, then in stead talking in Hindi Bharatiya journalists start talking in Urdu or English as the case may be.
These slave Hindi journalist people spread mental slavery amongst Hindi listeners.
Media people must stop using URDU and English words for Hindi because we have our own rich vocabulary in Hindi then why should we use Urdu which is the national language of Pakistan and the Muslims adore it.
Hindi films do not spread Hindi by ignoring Hindi in the films. Looking at the amount of Urdu, Arabic, Farsi, Turkish, and English languages used in Hindi films, a Pakistani acquaintance remarked that Hindi films will destroy Hindi one day in near future due to putting so much filth in Hindi films. All Hindi film producers, actor/ actresses, and other people associated with Hindi film industry deserve death sentences for not giving proper messages to the public according to the vulture of Bharat and for not providing Hindi in Hindi films.
For winning any international award, just boy meet a girl or a girl meet a boy, or just by copying western world, or showing Bharat a nation of Hijdas or not showing any originality, Bharat will never get any international award.
For winning any international award, film industry will have to make films based on Bharatiya culture and showing the greatness of Bharatiya culture, civilization and languages. Media people still show still a sort of mentally slave nation of Bharatiya people. Slave people do not get respect; slave nations do not get recognization or awards.
Hindi films show mental slavery of Bharat from every respect. Hindi films Film has to show the independence of Bharat by completely abolishing English and Urdu from Hindi films and showing originality in its all films rather than copying western world in any respect what so ever.
We Bharatiya people are so unfortunate that we were kept away from Sanskrit and the Vedas, due to the western education systems we were following blindly, trying to copy anything and everything of western systems, which do not have much spiritual base. pass on our great heritage ("Paithrukam") to the next generation by all sorts of media.
Usually the films which win international awards have some message for the public. Hindi films do not give any message either to Bharatiya community or to the world. If at all there is any message the Hindi films give, is that let Bharat, its culture, languages, civilization go to hell, just pay attention to having good time and making money by serving garbage to the masses.
No Bharatiya culture or anything associated with Bharat is shown in Hindi films.
In all Hindi films, lots of men are shown showing doing dance on the roads, which gives impression as if Bharat is a nation of Hijdas or male prostitute. No body is ever shown doing any productive work.
There is a norm in the world that a film gives cast in the language in which it is made, but Hindi film is the only exception in the world. Film is in Hindi but cast is in English. What is the point giving cast in English? If people are going to see a Hindi movie, then Hindi film views would not turn off by just looking Hindi words written in Devanagri script. By giving cast of Hindi films in English, film industry is giving message to the world that Bharat is still a slave nation and there is no Bharatiya language good enough, developed and mature to express Bharat and its culture in any Bharatiya languages.
Hindi films completely ignoring Devanagri
Devanagri script is one the most perfect and scientific script in the world. Even then Devanagri script is completely ignored by Hindi media and commercial people.
In this context, I quote a few lines from Ripley’s Believe it or Not:
“Devanagri used in Bharat is the most perfect alphabet in the world. Its 52 letters and 18 letters-combinations include every sound human lips can produce -- yet a word spelled in Devanagiri can not be mispronounced.”
There are other qualities of the Devanagri alphabet that entitle it to be described as the most scientific alphabet possible. Thus in the Roman you have a, b, c, d, etc. ---absolutely no reason why they should be arranged in this order. In the Arabic alphabet you have Alif, bey, gim, pay, te, etc.; in Greek - Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta etc. One will find that there is not any sequence in this arrangement at all.
By contrast in the Devanagri alphabet you have all the vowels placed at the beginning. We shall notice that the vowels are pronounced from the throat. Then come the consonants, ka varga the five letters beginning with ka are all again pronounced from the throat. Then comes the Cha varga, they are pronounced with the tongue being attached to the palate (talu), then comes the Ta varga – all five of the group are pronounced with the tongue attached to the murdha or the roof of the palate; the then Taa varga – they are pronounced with the tongue attached to the danta or teeth, then the Pa varga – the five letters beginning with Pa – they are Ostha Varna. The lips must be closed for pronouncing them. Throat, palate, roof of the palate, teeth and lips in sequence – what a wonderful scientific alphabet is this! And yet there are fool in Bharat who want to change to Roman script for Hindi and other Bharatiya languages for uniformity in the world.
By writing cast of Hindi film in English and commercial people also by ignoring Hindi on the labels of the commercial products, they are creating obstacles in spreading Hindi and these people also act against the national interest of Bharat. By giving cast of Hindi films in English and writing only English on the labels of the products, these people are spreading English only in Bharat.
Entertainment industry of Bharat has converted Hindi language into a Boli. This Boli is such that this type of Boli contains more Urdu and English words than Hindi words. If one to learn Hindi by watching Hindi films then he /she is under the wrong impression. By watching Hindi films one would pick few Urdu and English words than Hindi words.
Hindi media people completely ignore Hindi but make money on the name of Hindi.
These media help do not help in spreading Rastra Bhasha Hindi.
Nowadays even the name of Hindi movies is in English. More than 90% Hindi movies have English names nowadays. Some examples are: Retake, Neil n Nikki, Water, Bluff Master, Family, Bold, Home Delivery, Where is the Party Yaar, Fight Club etc.
Without a Rashtra Bhasha, there can't be a nation. We are divided between so many parameters and don't have anything which every Bharatiya can call his and hers. They are willing to make English as their national language but not Hindi. I just don't understand why there is so much hatred against Hindi. They watch Hindi movies but when it comes to promoting the Hindi language, they always back-off. People who degrade their own language can never be expected to do any good thing for their country.
All the media and commercial people make use of Hindi for making money but they do not contribute to promote Hindi. I am fully convinced that the promotion of Hindi would do us and our children good.
A very serious Hindu situation in Bharat.
What Bharat got today is not Independence but lawlessness, sham constitution, over 50% illiteracy, and corrupt lawmakers. BHARAT MERA MAHAN. Film industry does not take up such topics.
Look at these Hindi media people, who claim to promote Bharatiya culture 'exclusively' through English language. These media people are not promoting any culture except promoting themselves for making fast money. These media people have no pride in Bharat.
The knowledge of the Hindi media people of the culturally important Bharatiya monuments begs belief and their grasp topics for 'cultural promotion' is dictated by their search for making quick money.
For Bharatiya people, these are the enemies of Bharat and Bhaaratiyataa.
Shame on Hindi film Industry
One wonders why Bollywood industry is known as Hindi films industry. Hindi films use more Turkish, Arabic, Farsi, Urdu and English than Hindi words. Cast of Hind film is in English, while it is a norm in the world that a film carries the cast in the language in which it is made. Hindi film is the only exception in the world. Now days many films do not bother even to write the name of Hindi film in Hindi. Even no where Hindi is written on the covers of DVD, audio cassettes, even on posters of Hindi films.
All the people associated with Hindi film industry do not like even to speak in Hindi, although these people make films in so called Hindi (actually now a days it is more English / Urdu) films). In February 2006, a film festival took place in Germany. In this film festival, Yash Chopra was a member of Jury.
Germany broadcasts program in Hindi once a day for 45 minutes. Hindi of Radio German is just Chalu Hindi usually spoken by road Chaap, uneducated or less educated people but it is still known as Hindi program,
In its Hindi service, Radio German invited Yash Chopra for a talk. In this program Yash Chopra spoke only in English. He forgot that he was invited to Hindi program as he makes films which are called Hindi but contains more English.
Some time ago Shah Rukh was also invited by Radio German in its Hindi service. Shah Rukh Khan spoke very few words in Hindi, but mainly he spoke in English.
Why these English slave Hindi media people do not move to England and live there, or why they make films in Hindi if they are to promote English all the time?
Shame on people associated with Hindi film industry, who promotes English at every step rather than promoting Hindi. For Hindi film media, Hindi is just like a prostitute, all the Hindi media people live on the earning made through prostitute. Hindi media people are no more than Bhaduaas.
These bhaudaas not only get money by illegal methods, but spread English, Turkish, Arabic, Farsi and Urdu in the world.
Hindi films must carry cast in Hindi
In the world there is a system that a film carries the cast in the language in which it is made, but Hindi film is the only exception in the world. Film is in Hindi but cast is in English.
Not only that even on the covers of DVD's no where Hindi is written. AT one time it used to be written that language of film is Hindi. Now that section has been converted to Title of film. While name of film is written all around in English, in that section where word Hindi was written in English there is also name of film in English.
If some unknown person sees the DVD, he/she will think it is English film.
Nowadays there is more English, Turkish, Arabic, Farsi, and Urdu than Hindi in Hindi films. In the two most recent films Devkai and 15 - Park Ave. more English is spoken than Hindi.
Now a days many Americans also want to learn Hindi. If they never see how Hindi is written, then how they would learn Hindi?
One British girl whose father was from Uttar Pradesh wanted to learn Hindi. She saw more than Hundred Hindi films, but still cannot tell how Hindi is written. She just picked few Urdu words from Hindi films.
Are the Bharatiya people still slave people?
But Bharatiya people are still dhimmitude people.
A language can only spread if it is visible all around. By teaching Hindi in schools will play its part, but the main point is it must be seen all around.
Hindi can be seen all round if:-
Hindi films and TV programs give cast in Hindi
Commercial people write Hindi on at least 50% part of the labels
Sign boards are in Hindi
Leaflets and flyers are in Hindi
Hindi is written on the wrapping materials and packing boxes
Shop keepers put their signs in Hindi
Newspapers and magazines show that part of advertisement where Hindi is written and some other such steps.
Hindi Language must be included in US schools curriculum, in all the schools of Bharat and in those countries where Bharatiya people live. There are many, many such schools in Bharat where Hindi is not taught.
Until some laws are made, no film producer will give cast of Hindi film in Hindi, commercial people would not write Hindi on the labels of their products.
Bharatiya government should make some laws which would force Hindi film producers to give cast of Hindi films in Hindi, write Hindi on the covers of the DVDs. Actors must speak pure Hindi in Hindi films free from English, Turkish, Arabic, Farsi and Urdu languages.
Hindi is national language of Bharat. It is the duty of all ministers and government officers to promote and spread pure Hindi.
All ministers, Chief Ministers, members of parliament, members of assemblies must take some steps which would promote Hindi and make Hindi visible all around.
Hindi media people are slave people
All the Hindi media people bring Pakistanis on air in their Hindi services. For all Pakistani journalists even Urdu is Hindi language. No Pakistani journalist can speak Hindi.
On the top of that, when Hindi journalist start asking questions from Pakistani journalists, they start speaking Urdu in stead of Hindi in their Hindi service. If Pakistani journalists are speaking in Hindi programs, even then they should be able to understand Hindi. Hindi journalists pay more attention to the Urdu knowledge of Pakistani journalists than keeping in mind the Hindi listeners. They forget that they have more than million Hindi listeners, and many Hindi listeners would not understand the spoken Urdu by Hindi journalists and Pakistani journalists. The Hindi journalists keep in mind Pakistani journalists than the Hindi listeners, who may not understand their spoken Urdu. Hindi journalists spread more Urdu and make Urdu words more popular than Hindi words.
But all Hindi journalists are slave people and have dimwitted views.
When they talk to their former colonial masters for Hindi service, then in stead talking in Hindi Bharatiya journalists start talking in Urdu or English as the case may be.
These slave Hindi journalist people spread mental slavery amongst Hindi listeners.
Media people must stop using URDU and English words for Hindi because we have our own rich vocabulary in Hindi then why should we use Urdu which is the national language of Pakistan and the Muslims adore it.
Hindi films do not spread Hindi by ignoring Hindi in the films. Looking at the amount of Urdu, Arabic, Farsi, Turkish, and English languages used in Hindi films, a Pakistani acquaintance remarked that Hindi films will destroy Hindi one day in near future due to putting so much filth in Hindi films. All Hindi film producers, actor/ actresses, and other people associated with Hindi film industry deserve death sentences for not giving proper messages to the public according to the vulture of Bharat and for not providing Hindi in Hindi films.
For winning any international award, just boy meet a girl or a girl meet a boy, or just by copying western world, or showing Bharat a nation of Hijdas or not showing any originality, Bharat will never get any international award.
For winning any international award, film industry will have to make films based on Bharatiya culture and showing the greatness of Bharatiya culture, civilization and languages. Media people still show still a sort of mentally slave nation of Bharatiya people. Slave people do not get respect; slave nations do not get recognization or awards.
Hindi films show mental slavery of Bharat from every respect. Hindi films Film has to show the independence of Bharat by completely abolishing English and Urdu from Hindi films and showing originality in its all films rather than copying western world in any respect what so ever.
We Bharatiya people are so unfortunate that we were kept away from Sanskrit and the Vedas, due to the western education systems we were following blindly, trying to copy anything and everything of western systems, which do not have much spiritual base. The Bharatiya media is also trying to spread western systems all the time. It is our duty to pass on our great heritage ("Paithrukam") to the next generation by all sorts of media.
anyone who thinks black was a dumb movie...no point in wasting your time in argueing with him. Clearly, that person does not have efficent knowlege of what movies or acting are. And speaking English is not trying to act like white boys. But like I said...enough said...argueing with is u like "Bhains ke aagey been bajana"
Hey merc...while you do make some sense about Hindi movies not using hindi in credits etc...there is plenty of rubbish in what u have put up here.
As for your Hindu friends speakin to you in English, pls do check which part of India they come from. If they are not from the Hindi heartland or Punjab, its only natural that they are more comfortable in English than Hindi. Possible that they know Hindi, but its likely to be their third language after their mother tongue (any of the other national languages of india - the ones that you find on Indian currency notes FYI or maybe other Indian languages - there are many). So before you conclude on it being coz of their being Hindu - check this out, will you? To give you an example, when I was studying in a city called Pune in India, many of the Maharashtrian friends would start talking to me in Marathi and I had to remind them that I didnt follow the language or at times reply in malayalam to make that point. And then they would talk in English and not Hindi...Its sbou what one is more comfortable. While you may see only hindi movies..Hindi is not the only language of India... the regional languages are pretty strong.
The current trend in Bollywood is also a result of the Multiplex trend - where some movies make enough money by doing well in multiplexes in cities (with audience thats comfortable in English as well - the ones who speak more of Hinglish and can afford the multiplex tkts) - they dont need to make money for all the masses - and some basic words of English are quite mass in India.
As for your comments on acting in Bollywood - u r right at large. But there are enough Hindi movies that have rilliant acting (someone mentioned Anand earlier). Though there you do appear more prejudiced - and hence refusing to acknowledge any credit. So dont see any point discussing it with you. Would be good if you open your minda bit - try watcing some of the more sensible Hindi movies that come these days (u appear to be still in the 90s at best on Bollywood generalisation). Try Being Cyrus for eg.
I hope u got the answer - speaking ENglish is not a complex (some do speak coz of that complex - the false prestige stuff) - it is coz of convenience - its akin to use of English when u dont have a common language. Delhi dreamt of making Hindi India's national language but failed coz its not practical to expect people far away from Hindi heartland to learn Hindi as well as learn Engglish in case they needed to interact with people who didnt know their language or either of Hindi or English. Learning only English besides regional language was more sensible - though they still pick up basics very well when they come to Mumbai/Delhi etc for jobs.
Causes sometimes are simply practical convenience and not based in complexes or being Hindu etc. Hope you will open up to this fact
