Both muali and angel eyes raised excellent points. Where did the Prophet get his knowledge from that we must obey him? (By the way, that makes it sound like we worship the Prophet, which we should not. So its not that we're obeying him, but trying to learn from him and follow his example. Some people need to have some practice with how they word things).
And then furthermore, how would you otherwise know how the Prophet lived his life in order to emulate some of his practices and thereby live as a better person?
I don't think my point was to say not to follow any hadith, but to keep in mind the difference between fardh and sunnah (like is it seriously fardh to keep your toenails clipped and are you going to hell for forgetting to clip them?) and to keep in mind that the hadith are written records/compilations which could have been tampered with and that even the compilers were liable to bias and sin and/or making mistakes in trusting sources that were giving them these hadith.
Remember, if no one had tampered with them in the first place, there would never have been need to record them in writing and compile them and filter out the obviously wrong ones.
Its a moot point honestly, because what country forces you to follow every hadith in the collection and how practical is it? In the end, it boils down to personal choice. Most sunnis, I can bet, haven't even read most of the hadith that are out there. How good of muslims are they?
PCG.....we can still use the word OBEY because obey simply means to carry out one's command or guidance (according to the textbook definition). Certainly Prophet Muhammed (SAW) was a guide to all mankind.
The word "obey" has a totally different connotation. Are you going to obey by imitating everything the Prophet did? In that case, throw the milk out of your refrigerator and switch to natural goat milk.
The degree to which you model your life upon the Prophet's differs for each person, and differs according to ease, relevance, personal choice, etc. You need to draw a line somewhere. You have to figure out how to act and make decisions in your life by following the principles the Prophet laid out. Which can all be found in a concise book called the Quran, as well. I just think sunnis (me being one too I suppose) give too much importance to the Hadith and overlook the Quran. Most muslims haven't even read the Quran, and even if they've done some reading, its some verses here and there. They haven't tried to understand it, let alone implement it in their lives. But that's besides the point.
Therefore, if a lot of the hadith are simply non-normative (non-directing), then the word "obey" doesn't fit when it comes to hadith. Factor into it that most hadith that are normative just echo what Allah has commanded, you'll find you're really not obeying the prophet, but you are obeying Allah. I just think that the Prophet tried his best to really emphasize not to worship him, and not to deify him. If you obey someone, you've accepted they're your master, which the Rasul (SAW) doesn't take on that role in Islam. He's not a master that barked commands and expected people to follow. He tried to non-forcefully and gently guide people onto the right path.
Quran is Wahee (revelation), the speech of the Prophet is also Wahee (inspired).
Surah Najm Ayah 3 and 4 make it clear that the Prophet does not speak of his own desire but it is an inspiration inspired. The word translated as inspiration is wahee which is also translated as revelation.
It would only make sense to preserve the speech of the Prophet in the same manner as the Quran. Both are Wahee.
Obeying the Prophet means obeying him in his commands. The prophet did not command us to drink goat milk or ride a camel, etc.
But he did command us in other things.
As a side note reminder: To stand as muslim united together! we must accept each other regardless if beliefs / opinions / choices are different than each other
I understand what you are saying.....but i think it's ppl like us who take the word obey and give it a different meaning. Perhaps the word obey does sound like too strong of a word.....but im just going by the actual textbook definition. The word obey is also used in many verses in the Quran.
The degree to which you model your life upon the Prophet's differs for each person, and differs according to ease, relevance, personal choice, etc. You need to draw a line somewhere. You have to figure out how to act and make decisions in your life by following the principles the Prophet laid out. Which can all be found in a concise book called the Quran, as well. I just think sunnis (me being one too I suppose) give too much importance to the Hadith and overlook the Quran. Most muslims haven't even read the Quran, and even if they've done some reading, its some verses here and there. They haven't tried to understand it, let alone implement it in their lives. But that's besides the point.
Therefore, if a lot of the hadith are simply non-normative (non-directing), then the word "obey" doesn't fit when it comes to hadith. Factor into it that most hadith that are normative just echo what Allah has commanded, you'll find you're really not obeying the prophet, but you are obeying Allah. I just think that the Prophet tried his best to really emphasize not to worship him, and not to deify him. If you obey someone, you've accepted they're your master, which the Rasul (SAW) doesn't take on that role in Islam. He's not a master that barked commands and expected people to follow. He tried to non-forcefully and gently guide people onto the right path.