Can a husband FORCE his wife to...

First of all, who wrote the bold part above? Also tell me whose translation is this? None of the three authentic translators have above translation!

033.059
YUSUFALI: O Prophet! Tell thy wives and daughters, and the believing women, that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad): that is most convenient, that they should be known (as such) and not molested. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

PICKTHAL: O Prophet! Tell thy wives and thy daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks close round them (when they go abroad). That will be better, so that they may be recognised and not annoyed. Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful.

SHAKIR: O Prophet! say to your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers that they let down upon them their over-garments; this will be more proper, that they may be known, and thus they will not be given trouble; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.


The meaning of the whole verse is basically the same as in the verse you posted before! Muslim women are supposed to cover their beauty(bosoms, hips, etc). No where it says that they are required to cover their hair. It doesn’t make sense either. Why would God make women cover their hair and not make men cover theirs?

The jilbaab is an outer garment which may or may not cover the head. It’s basically like a loose long shirt(can be a kameez or coat). check this

…I gotta go. I’ll reply the rest of your post later. Allah Hafiz!

CA

I am not sure what you are asking here. Why does Allah not have the same rules for men and women? I could go around asking why Allah has made me a maintainer/protector for women and why is it that I am supposed to earn and provide for her. I could damn well want to stay home and rest all day while she busts her back working and earning the bread.

The rules are different for both genders. Equality means that they are treated equally in front of Allah. They earn the same rewards for their actions and such. Infact, women have it easier.. The prophet saww said that the women that stays at home and takes good care of her family earns the same reward as her husband who goes out, takes part in jihad, prays at the mosque etc etc.

As regards to the translations, and the issue of hijab or not, then consult the following page. It clears away a lot of doubts and is probably the most comprehensive answer you’ll get on the net. Try to read all articles on the topic. (niqab/jilbab/hijab etc)

http://www.muhajabah.com/articles.htm

If women you know rest all day at home and don’t do anything then that doesn’t mean the rest of the women do that too. In fact, in our society women work equally as hard(if not more)as men. They dont rest all day long, they cook, clean, take care of kids- They work 24/7 don’t you realize? And then they get comments like “I’m the one who earns the money, what do you do? Rest at home all day?” :rolleyes:

A’han they really have it easier. They can’t get out the house without a mehrem. They always have to obey their father, brother, husband. They can’t even get married without their parents’ permission. Also, it’s very wonderful that almost ALL their rights are dependent on men(i.e their right to be asked for a consent before marriage, their right to be clothed and sheltered, to ask for a divorce, etc). They can’t do anything without the permission or will of men. Beautiful!

Men on the other have it a very hard way because they have to go out and WORK! Wow, that’s like so difficult! Their only rights are they can marry anyone without their parents’ permission, they can even marry more than one woman. They can beat their wives. They can give divorce their women whenever(four times and it’s done). If a husband doesn’t like the family of his wife then he can easily say “they’re not coming to our house again” and she’s not allowed to invite them ever again Islamically, etc. She can’t even fast without his permission. You know I really feel for you men. You’re so right, MEN really don’t it very easy! I think they’re discriminated!

Mod: Please close this thread. I don’t wish to discuss it anymore. I got my answers. Thanks!

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**I could damn well want to stay home and rest all day while she busts her back working and earning the bread.
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...] Infact, women have it easier..
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i don't think that staying at home and taking care of children, making nutritious meals for an entire family, cleaning, doing the laundry, cleaning the washrooms, cooking and doing grocery shopping, while all at the same time taking care of the kids and ensuring the little ones don't swallow some poison or choke on food while your back is turned and you are slaving in the kitchen - is equal to 'resting all day' or having it 'easy'. If anything, stay-at-home mums have it harder. If you are a stay-at-home mother, that is a full time job in and of itself.

:k: Well said both of you Naida and Currupt.
-Salman

CA and Nadia, that comment was supposed to be sarcastic!!!

It is similar to how females complain about being locked up in islam and not being granted equal rights and what not. I certainly dont think women have it easy.. I simply think that both genders have duties and laws prescribed for them which comply best with their fitrah.

And CA, it is obvious that you feel discriminated against. All I can suggest is that it is best to go talk to someone who can answer you in a better and more learned fashion. If nothing else, try asking your question at islam-qa.com. I could go through your entire list point by point and suggest how men have it just as hard, but i doubt it would be worth it.

Men cant be sissies.. when obligatory as opposed to voluntary jihad is declared they MUST go to battle and obviously strive with their lives. Women are not asked the same. Re: beating women then I think it is at most with something as light as a miswak and not on the face, and even then the Prophet said that those men are not the best of us. Actually all of the things that you mention such as beating/divorce for a null reason/asking wife's relatives to avoid coming/marrying without parent's consent are things which no good muslim male would do.

Anyhow, try reading the muhajabah articles whenever, and if you want you can actually get in touch with the lady who runs the site. It may help insha'llah.

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First of all, who wrote the bold part above? Also tell me whose translation is this? None of the three authentic translators have above translation!

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I quted the whole Q & A. from www.islam-qa.com
it's in the braket ()
"(i.e. screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way)”
[al-Ahzaab 33:59]

not the whole ayat's translation.

*[33.59] O Prophet, tell your wives, your
daughters and the believing women to
draw their veils close to them, so it is
likelier they will be known, and not hurt.
Allah is the Forgiver, the Most Merciful.
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& Allah knows the best..