Caliphate issues

Re: My eyes are aching.... my legs are shaking.....

SOA.....yaar...did I say anything malign??..."that guy" means Othman was a guy and not a divine hero in my opinion that's it.....I am neither maligning religion nor Prophets so no issues here.

Why I say is....everytime you guyz speak highly about Ali --lbut no one can offer a logic why the helll he was not offerred leadership before Umar.

And about Umar, as I said before Persia was invaded during his reign....go and check history.
you will also notice that tendency of invasion was less as long as Mohammed was alive...however it was Umar when invasion of others land started.

PS: To me all beliefs are for Knowing the Supreme--God...so I don't care what Shia or Sunni belief is...it's just historical correction that's it.