Re: CAIR
picoico that is an issue with these groups, the old guard has a group think and they keep to it and are not open to new ideas. I have not done anythign with CAIR but for ISNA i was asked a few years ago by Muzzamil Siddiquo what I thought ISNA could do better. I asked him whether he wanted honest opinion or not, he said yes, lets say he did not like my honest opinion, which included having himself and other ppl with some record of radical statments stepping down for the benefit of the organization.