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yes I know what u r talking about but jis ko Allah rakhay usko kon chakhay !
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I had PROM (Pre mature rupture of membrane) and there were like 5-6 ob gyns who came to check me and they asked me again and again if I am feeling any labour pain. But I did not get a single pain. Epidural was not an option available to me because of my medical condition so I was given general anaesthesia. The hospital in which my case was done c section was the last option BUT in this same hospital I consulted a dr when I was in 1st trimester and she was pretty much jumping to c section and was pretty rigid about it that's why I changed my doc then.
I have seen cases in my family who have done their cases in small hospitals in Karachi all getting c sections. However I have family in Punjab too and most of them had normal vaginal birth. In my immediate family I am the 1st one to have a c section. So it really depends upon the doctor in my opinion.
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all in my family in pakistan are giving birth naturally, except a few cases where it was necessary for a c-section.
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I wouldnt wish a c-section on my wrost enemy....it is major abdominal surgery...not a walk in the park. My 2nd delivery I went through several hours of painful labor and THEN a c-section....and trust me if it were possible, I would have preferred continued labor and normal delivery. Unfortunately my baby was transverse so I needed c-section. The post recovery is horrendous, but manageable.
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we pay high taxes in canada too, but doctors will not do c-sections here without a valid medical reason, no matter how much you beg them. natural birth is always considered the better choice-- unless the mom or the baby are considered at risk, and then they do c-sections. why would you opt for one over a natural birth anyway? yes, labour is painful and there is healing time, but c-section is major abdominal surgery. it ain’t a walk in the park and the ladies in pakistan who are opting for it as if its a choice between wearing lawn and cotton are ridiculous and stupid, imho. it doesn’t matter how many people/servants you have to take care of of you after the birth, its MAJOR ABDOMINAL SURGERY and should not be considered lightly. also in toronto at least, you are offered a choice of morphine, epidurals, or gas, so its not like a vaginal birth has to be a pain-relief free birth - there are options to make it less so.
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I also don't understand why someone would willingly go for C-section. If they or their baby are doing good then I think it should be vaginal birth. Mine was a bit complicated delivery but the doctor refused to do C-section. MA I had a nice healthy baby. In my sister's case, she was told very early in her pregnancy that she can't have normal vaginal birth. Doctor said her pelvic bone was too small to let the baby pass. Her recovery time was a lot longer than mine. Yes there is pain, lot of pain but its surprising how quickly we recover.
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it's a trend everywhere not just Pakistan. C sections have been on the rise since the last 5 years.
At a wedding, I saw 5 women that had babies, all within a 3 month period and ALL c-sections. That's scary.
It's seems easier to some women but I would always recommend a natural birth over the c's. Why opt for a major abdonimal surgery. It's not worth the 6-8 weeks of recovery, abdominal adhesions and the risks.
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hmm interesting.... I was wondering the same thing why would someone willingly go under the knife but I guess due to lack of epidural in Pakistan, people prefer c-sections.. I dunno, but then like I said before, I am talking only about my family in Pakistan and in fact some of them were scheduled for the small pelvic bone as well!!!
Afia baji.. didn't you have Zainab in Germany? of course you won't be getting any massages there.. it's the perk of giving birth in Pakistan... ok again, at least in my family.. I have seen women coming to your house to give some kind of massage to the woman who just delivered.. I was too young to understand much so I dunno if it still happens or not!!!!
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we pay high taxes in canada too, but doctors will not do c-sections here without a valid medical reason, no matter how much you beg them. natural birth is always considered the better choice-- unless the mom or the baby are considered at risk, and then they do c-sections. why would you opt for one over a natural birth anyway? yes, labour is painful and there is healing time, but c-section is major abdominal surgery. it ain't a walk in th e park and the ladies in pakistan who are opting for it as if its a choice between wearing lawn and cotton are ridiculous and stupid, imho. it doesn't matter how many people/servants you have to take care of of you after the birth, its MAJOR ABDOMINAL SURGERY and should not be considered lightly. also in toronto at least, you are offered a choice of morphine, epidurals, or gas, so its not like a vaginal birth has to be a pain-relief free birth - there are options to make it less so.
Hey i agree with it all.... But thats the route some women take.... Infact...even if u arent scheduled for a c sec....if anytime during delivery u think u cant take it anymore....once again play the "its my right" card and the midwife will have to arrange for a c sec asap. A friend from school actually did this....funny thing...it took so long to prep and find a surgeon free to donthe c sec...the baby arrived by normal birth.... Its good u cant sue here.... But man was she pissed for being put thru the pain :d
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another disadvantage of having c sections that most people don't know about is it's medically recommended to have no more than 3, that means no more than 3 babies. also if a woman has 2 c sections, her 3rd child will have to be via c section, she can't go for a normal vaginal delivery even if she wants to, and yes, money and greed has a lot to do with the fact of gynecologists telling their "clients" that they would prefer for them to go under the knife! Some even make up conditions which the patient can't understand to make it sound necessary when they are only interested in filling their pockets.
When I was doing my house job in Paeds in Lahore, from this well-established maternity hospital, i saw absolutely unnecessary C sections being done on women who obviously didn't need them, my cousin being one of them. The well established OB/GYNs here try to rip you off because they can, and they are obviously underpaid and wanna make a quick buck. (yes, ethics ka janaza).
I actually saw this really famous Gynecologist booking SIX operating rooms at once (I had to stick around for looking after the babies), she would go into one room when the poor woman was under, slit open her tummy, take the baby out and move onto the next room, leaving her assistants to stitch the patient up. She charged around 60k for one C section, the patient had to pay 40k more for the hospital charges and the medicine, of course nothing was free. So the patient ends up paying a lac for bad service and bad health at the end of the day.
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I don't know Pakistan is just a risky place to have a baby overall. I don't think I'd feel safe having one there.
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^ seriously!
khawa, thats messed up. talk about putting doctors under the gun and really what they're supposed to do is look out for their patients.
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C-sections are no joke. I actually felt a little bit betrayed by how easy my relatives had made it sound. I know I shouldn't have, but I was really surprised by it all. Part of me had actually hoped for the c-section, due to fear of labor.
First of all, you are not in a comforting delivery room. You are having surgery in a room filled with bright lights and bustling doctors. You are on an operating table. I was not prepared for it, and I was pretty terrified.
And afterwards there is the initial discomfort of being numb. And then there is pain. I remember telling my cousin that I was never doing this again.
And that was with me being surrounded mashAllah with people to take care of me. Hubby was off for two weeks. Ammi took time off. MIL, FIL, and Abbu aren't working and were there to care for me and baby. My brothers are also close by. And there is tons of extended family and friends, mashAllah. Not everyone has that.
And everything went smoothly. I recovered well. STILL. STILL I found it to be a very difficult process, especially in those first few days. Day 5 Bunny had her first pediatric appointment and her doctor was surprised that I had come along, reminding me that I had just had major surgery.
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Oh and yeah, it made nursing in those early days difficult. Not only was I not able to hold her properly to nurse in the beginning, but there was no milk until day 5. I'm not even sure there was colustrum. (She was also early, so that didn't help).