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Ok Ok Ok I am agree with your all said things, muslims are different of hindus, but now muslims are not proveing they are differents, you are talking about past see over present circumstances and muslim not seeming to learn lesson through past, i get now they are going to be demolished i observed muslims are so cruel as no any other nation, think honestly and observe your surroundings
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Masha Allah aap ki grammar to ham se bhi aala hai.
Angrezi mein itni mushakat ho rahi hai post likhtey huwey to apni zubaan mein likh len.
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"Mongrel" is a bit rich coming from an Indian, even Indians are Mongrels, (Aborigine, Dravidian, a bit of Aryan in the NW... you name it), all the different castes and tribes in India have different origins, some arrived earlier, some later, no wonder some E.Punjabis look like us (and Persians/Afghans) whilst the rest of you look like Choorrey Chamaarr like the rest of your country.
Don't tell us we're mongrels or that we were invaded when your entire culture (Sanskrit languages, Vedic-Hinduism) was brought to you by imperialistic Aryan colonisers from Central Asia.
Even the Sikh Granth's are not in pure Punjabi or Braj but use Arabic and Persian, some of the verses are well known poetry by Muslim saints.
As for inbreeding you Hindus are more heavy on it than us with your caste system that was started by Hinduism and also practiced by Sikhs even though Sikhi is against it... Except for a few hinduised rural elders we have no such obsessions, unlike you we're quite happy being mongrels, my family is Pashtun but we intermarry with Punjabis, Persians, Baltistanis and Urdu speaking ppl all the time, so if anything it's you who are more inbred not marrying outside Khatri/Jatt/Rajput/Brahmin families.
PS. Cousins are not siblings, it is not incest, neither is it harmful unless the families have been only marrying cousins generation after generation. Pakis are not the only ones practicing cousin-marriages, it happens in India as well, the other day there was this Indian guy on TV whose DNA showed the earliest record of human migrations, it's been preserved in his people because they only marry cousins... Some Hindus even marry their own uncles/neices, now that is incest.
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Spoken like a true Kiraarr. :k:
It’s times like this when you show your true nature that I’m glad for Pakistan, a joint music program on Zee makes me forget your true nature, thanks for reminding.
And you have the cheek to accuse us of extremism? Learn this from your Pundits at the Ashrams did you?
So when are you “peace loving” Hindus going to carry out the next Gujarat, Ayodhya or Kashmir massacre against Muslims? Or maybe another attack on the Sikhs at Sri Harmandir Sahib?
Or maybe blow up a few Mosques in Hyedrobad and then accuse the poor Muslims themselves?
It’s people like you who provide fodder to haters on our side.
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Good post ST.
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Khekeshan aunty kahan hain?
Bachche zada tang kar rahe hain?? 
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^ Masha Allah aap ki grammar to ham se bhi aala hai.
Angrezi mein itni mushakat ho rahi hai post likhtey huwey to apni zubaan mein likh len.
agar apki gramar achee hey to tanqeed karne kee bajae esko durst karden, waise mene jaldee me likha tha
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Aap to bura hi manaa gaey, ham mazaak kar rahey the. :)
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I agree with all you have said - Muslims are different from Hindus. However, nowadays Muslims do not prove themselves to be good muslim. When we look at the past, we can see that Muslims have not learned from history and I think they will be destroyed as I observe that Muslims are more cruel than other countries. You can verify this by thinking honestly and observing your surroundings closely.
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as urdu = persian + Arabic + Turkish(90%)
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This is an absolute lie...Urdu is 99% Hindi/Hindustani and only 1% Persian or Arabic, etc.
What of Persian, Arabic can you find me in urdu sentense like "main khana khatha hoon" ?
That day I boarded a bus operated by a Hindu driver and he asked me where are you from and how do you speak such a good Hindi and I asked him how where did he learn such a good Urdu from...In fact we both were speaking the same language...He called it Hindi and I, Urdu.
And stop this racism...Hindus/Indians are good people at least to us Pashtuns they are more friendly.
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I think you should also completely ban all the languages in Pakistan which has even slightest Indian touch. Everybody of you should only speak Persian or Arabic or Turkish.
Yar you are a brave man...Kudos to you to be loyal to your land, which has more Muslims and greater relgious freedom and democracy than our Pak Sar Zamin has.
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Yar you are a brave man...Kudos to you to be loyal to your land, which has more Muslims and greater relgious freedom and democracy than our Pak Sar Zamin has.
I agree with your other post that there is no difference between colloquial Urdu and Hindi but I don't know about greater religious freedoms..
Official laws are one thing but what happens in practice is another, I admit there's good and bad apples in every society, Muslims are no angels but Hindus are the same.. Secularists on our side are eager to condemn extremists on our sides but Muslims don't have monopoly over being evil, similar people also exist in India, people like zxcvb exist in realife India too (just look at his comments I quoted in post #25), Indian Muslims are very loyal to India but they'll never be truly accepted, these are not my opionions but the sentiments of Indian Muslims I know.. Just look at Amristar, Ayodhya, Gujarat, Kashmir.. Minorities have it bad everywhere but when Hindu minorities lived with us before partiotion we Muslims treated them like our own own people and protected them even though they treated us as dirty/untouchable, I don't know about other areas but this was the case in our village.
It's a shame, most of us would rather just get on with everyone, everyone just wants love but ppl can be driven by anger/emotion/ignorance to do wrong things ..
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basically indians and pakistani r not totally different each country has its gud ppl and it bad ppl!!!!! peace ppl :)
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^With no offense, let us limit our comments only to the topic instead of giving our views about the thread starter. He has every right to share his views and you have the right to disagree, but no one has the right to use a de-grading name specifically for any member.
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zxcb - Indian Muslim youth are as Indian as you & I, and fiercely patriotic.
Most of them feel intimidated with the extremist views of some Pakistanis. So much so, they avoid them as much as possible. You will find Indian Muslims more happy in the company of Indian Hindus & Christians. Same with the case of moderate Pakistani's who feel happy to speak to another Desi.
If religion was such an binding issue, then why is Pakistan constantly rocked with insurgencies. Why did BD seperate. Why did Iraq & Iran have wars.
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Or due to extremist hindu indians?
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It is extremely difficult to appreciate why our Hindu friends fail to understand the real nature of Islam and Hinduism. They are not religions in the strict sense of the word, but are, in fact, different and distinct social orders, and it is a dream that the Hindus and Muslims can ever evolve a common nationality, and this misconception of one Indian nation has troubles and will lead India to destruction if we fail to revise our notions in time. The Hindus and Muslims belong to two different religious philosophies, social customs, litterateurs. They neither intermarry nor interdine together and, indeed, they belong to two different civilizations which are based mainly on conflicting ideas and conceptions. Their aspect on life and of life are different. It is quite clear that Hindus and Mussalmans derive their inspiration from different sources of history. They have different epics, different heroes, and different episodes. Very often the hero of one is a foe of the other and, likewise, their victories and defeats overlap. To yoke together two such nations under a single state, one as a numerical minority and the other as a majority, must lead to growing discontent and final destruction of any fabric that may be so built for the government of such a state.
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Syed - the arguments used by you where the same which convinced Muslims to create Pakistan.
Now see what it is!!! - Sunni's & Shia's killing each other, blowing each other's masjids. Ahmedies already declared non-muslims. Other smaller sects being discriminated against. Behari muslims - still being called 'names'. Bengali muslims had been treated like 2nd class citizens, who finally opted for independence. Balochistan and other areas have seen the reality, and want independence.
Your sermons mean nothing. Just words.
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Without question, Muslims and Hindu's are different! but hey, you can not negate we are from same land, we have very similar culture , you inisisted on names, have a closer look most of the caste surnames are still the same in both countries. Sardar, Rana, Chatha, Paracha, etc.
The only difference we had is our faith! that has very basic conflicts with Hinduism. So the Two nation theory was right!
but you cant go on and say we are completely different people! we are many things in common than different ones.