Bush Failing on all fronts

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The majority of the U.S. public now disapprove of Bush on all fronts, from his position on Social Security, to his handling his of the economy, healthcare, environmental, education, Iraq, and even his old standby his handling of ‘the war on terrorism’ now recieves a failing mark.

The #1 google result of failure has never been so accurate.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&rls=RNWE%2CRNWE%3A2004-23%2CRNWE%3Aen&q=failure

And instead of taking a step back and looking at the situation Bush seems determined to ram his head repeatedly into the wall as we saw last week, where he went stumping for the privatization of Social Security, mind you the Dow was higher the day before he took office than it is now.

59% of the public believes that the country is heading in the wrong direction, 35% believe it’s headed in the right direction.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/10/AR2005061000191_pf.html

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And yet not 6 months earlier the US voted him into the presidency for the second time. :rolleyes:

Edit: An honest question are the american people that dumb? You vote him in and then 6 months later you say he is a dumbass. I mean what he has said and done for the past 5 years have not changed. But now they realise it all?

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try using your head

if they don’t trust Bush…but trust John Kerry even less…then who will they vote for?

if they think Bush is a dumbass…but think John Kerry is a bigger dumbass…then who will they vote for?

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But then again Kerry had better ideas and plans for the domestic US scene. It was all a media blitz against Kerry that won out, not better ideas and plans.

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Bush has hit his lowest approval rating since he became president in January 2001. 53% of Americans now disapprove of his performance. Myvoice is in the minority of those who “like the direction the country is going.”

After the election I remember all this talk of a Bush Mandate, what happened? :slight_smile:

Bush’s handling of the economy, energy policy, health care and Social Security even have lower failing marks.
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Bush fails

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/06/27/bush.poll/index.html

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Conspiracy Theory Forum: There will be another terrorist attack soon to make Bush popular again :fraudia:

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The word fickle comes to mind. If he announces in his speech tonight that they caught OBL, he will be 30 points higher by morning. Go back and look at the history of these polls mid-term for any president. Pretty meaningless.

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What matters is that any talk of mandate is gone, dead, kaput. His 2nd term plans have been stopped in there tracks but we know how Bush likes to keep ramming his head into the wall so expect more of the same.

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I am always right! I never make a mistake! I have a mandate! The country is moving in the right direction! :frusty:

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UTD: As the pundits have often said, the only poll that matters is the one that occurs on election day. OG is quite right when he says these interim popularity polls simply reinforce the fickle nature of the American public. The public replies based upon a whole bunch of things that are going on in the world and single individual events can propel the favorability rating up or down.

Presidents who change policies, courses and beliefs based upon interim poll results aren't fit to occupy the White House, IMO. That's the main reason Kerry was trounced. Come election day, the American people don't want a flip flopper who changes his mind and position based upon opinion polls.

So on June 28, 2005, Bush has a higher unfavorable rating than favorable. Big friggin deal. So what? On June 28, 2006, his favorablity rating might be higher than his unfavorability rating. Again, so friggin what?

As to whether my current opinion is in the majority or minority on June 28, 2005, I could care less. Whatever opinion I have, I know it's the right one and if a few more dumb*sses share your view today than mine, so what.

On election day in November 2008, after Saddam has been tried and hanged, OBL is dead or captured, Zarqawi's corpse is 6 feet under ground, most American troops are home instead of in Iraq, Iraq and Afghanistan have democratically elected governments, oil is below $50 a barrel, the economy is chugging along, etc., I will care and sincerely hope that more dumb*sses share my opinion and elect my candidates. If all those things happen, I'm pretty sure you'll again be in the minority come the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November 2008.

In the meantime, enjoy crowing with the majority opinion in June for many years to come. I'll reserve my partying for every four Novembers.

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And if pigs are flying, pygmies are playing in the NBA and people are eating popsicles in hell, I will be the new dictator of Pakistan in 2008.

Presidents who dont change their policies, courses and beliefs based upon logic, reality, history, experiences and current events are doomed to Herbert Hoover type infamy.

Nevermind public polls, 81%of historians have rated this presidency a failure. As one astute historian put it:

"…he has trashed the image and reputation of the United States throughout the world; he has offended many of our previously close allies; he has burdened future generations with incredible debt; he has created an unnecessary war to further his domestic political objectives; he has suborned the civil rights of our citizens; he has destroyed previous environmental efforts by government in favor of his coterie of exploiters; he has surrounded himself with a cabal ideological adventurers…

http://hnn.us/articles/5019.html

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Public support and backing is how you get policy pushed through, if any politician only worries about how the public feels every four years they are dead in the water and will get their vision to go no where. Public opinion, big Frigging deal? You bet your glittery ass it is.

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Any historian will tell you that a President cannot be judged until 10 or 20 years after his time. Stupid poll. Americans swivel whatever way the wind puffs. A President, particularly a lame duck president with a vice president who will not run, has an immense amount of emotional freedom to make long term decisions without dialing his poll taker every 30 minutes. Bush could be screwing up big time, but we can’t possible know that til the fat lady sings.

One thing I have been noticing lately is that people are so certain that Bush is screwing up. That sort of arrogance, does not allow for the possibility that Bush is right and they are wrong. Nothing in this world is that clear cut. Allways allow for the possibility that you could be wrong. As MyVoice points out, things could be quite different by 2008, you just don’t know. If Bush announces that OBL has been caught, today’s opinion poll is worthless.

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OBL and his capture will be like a buzzword OG, saturated thoroughly and then dissipate without much effect.

When Bush talks tonight let's watch how he links Iraq with "the war on terror" and 9.11

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:rotfl: **Historians??? **I thought reputable historians researched and wrote about **historical events **not **current events. **Remind me not to buy any history books on the Bush Presidency written by those clowns when they hit the shelves.

At least one of the respondents sounds as if he is reputable.

** “Additionally, it is, of course, as one respondent rightly noted, “way too early to make a valid comparison (we need another 50 years).”” **

----> TimePass
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^^ The point still stands. I have never seen a political climate where the anti-president group was so convinced they were right, and so completely dismissed the possibility that they could be wrong.

And, historians are about as accurate as economists who have accurately predicted 14 of the last six recessions. :)

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OG, where were you during the Clinton years? The anti-president crowd was so convinced they were right they claimed God was on their side. The current pro-president crowd's arrogance makes his detractors look like little lost lambs. If blind supporters want to believe the lead-up to and aftermath of Iraq is not a major screw up then they are indeed blind and may have to wait to read the cliff notes in 20 years.

These are current and historical facts:
He has trashed the image and reputation of the United States throughout the world;
He has offended many of our previously close allies;
He has burdened future generations with incredible debt;
He has created an unnecessary war to further his domestic political objectives;
He has suborned the civil rights of our citizens;
He has destroyed previous environmental efforts by government in favor of his coterie of exploiters;
He has surrounded himself with a cabal ideological adventurers...

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^^ Sorry Seminole. For the most part those are ** opinion ** rather than ** fact **. For instance, the people around Bush are only a "cabal of ideological adventurers" to those who are part of a different "cabal of ideological partisans." Whether any future generations will be burdened by "incredible debt" depends mostly on when the next economic boom cycle occurs and how soon our security obligations to others ceases draining billions from our economy. The image and reputation of the US throughout the world will be hunky dorry if and when the actions we have taken bring peace, democracy and freedom to millions. These aren't things you can judge today. Only the passing of years and the occurence or non-occurence of other events will determine whether any of the criticisms you voice today have merit from a historical perspective.

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Seminole,

And you are so certain that each one of those things is true, correct, accurate or bad? I am not sure.

Read a book by Natan Sharansky, an anti-Soviet dissident. In the 80's the protest world-wide were over nuclear proliferation, Pershing IIs and cruise missles. The "no nukes" crowd was absolutely convinced that Reagan was the devil incarnate. (I remember having said similar things about Reagan, absolutely convinced that I was in the right). As it turns out, the Russian dissidents rotting in prison wanted nothing more than for Reagan to challenge the Soviet Union at every opportunity. The oppressed wanted to be free. To this day Eastern Europe, which was considered a hard core communist wasteland is thankful for the freedom that came about because the Soviet Union was challenged. Turns out Reagan did the right thing, even though the left wing (including yours truely) was utterly convinced that he was a stupid blithering idiot.

So what happened to the "No nukes" chants from the 80's? Well, unilaterally in the 90's we were able to destroy far more nuclear weapons than any peace talks 80's ever envisioned. And of course military spending in the 90's dropped radically and we had the "peace dividend" which allowed us to pay off our cold war debt. Funny "historians" (who are mostly university professors, and notoriously liberal) don't remember this historical prescident.

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This is some really dopey bullsh1t. I’ll be glad to explain why if you can’t figure it out after my dinner.