Bush faces army revolt

Bush is on the verge of destroying one more institution, the US army. The article below.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/blumenthal/2004/04/15/bush/index_np.html

The president may see his mission to Iraq as a holy war, but frustrated Pentagon strategists say they’re being ignored and ill-treated by the administration.


By Sidney Blumenthal

April 15, 2004 | Almost exactly 43 years ago, on April 21, 1961, President John F. Kennedy held a press conference to answer questions on the disastrous Bay of Pigs invasion by Cuban exiles that he had approved. “There’s an old saying,” he said, “that victory has a hundred fathers and defeat is an orphan … I am the responsible officer of the government and that is quite obvious.” He expressed private disbelief at and disdain for his sudden rise in popularity: “The worse I do the more popular I get.” He remarked to his aide Ted Sorensen: “How could I have been so far off base? All my life I’ve known better than to depend on the experts. How could I have been so stupid, to let them go ahead?”

On Wednesday, President Bush held only his third prime-time press conference and was asked three times whether he accepted responsibility for failing to act before Sept. 11 on warnings such as the President’s Daily Brief of Aug. 6, 2001, titled “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.” “I’m sure something will pop into my head here in the midst of this press conference with all the pressure of trying to come up with an answer, but it hadn’t yet,” he said. “… I just haven’t – you just put me under the spot here and maybe I’m not quick – as quick on my feet as I should be in coming up with one.”

Bush’s press conference was the culmination of his recent efforts to stanch the political wounds of his bleeding polls since the 9/11 commission had begun public hearings and the Fallujah killings of four U.S. contractors had set off a spiral of violence in Iraq. Bush had tried to divert blame by declaring that the Aug. 6 memo he was forced to declassify at the commission’s insistence contained no “actionable intelligence,” even though it specifically mentioned the World Trade Center, federal buildings in New York (many lodged in the WTC), and Washington as targets. Like his national security advisor, Condoleezza Rice, he claimed that because that dire memo, written by the CIA with the intention of catching his blurred attention, lacked “a time and place of an attack” it didn’t prompt him to do anything.

Bush, in fact, does not read his PDBs, but has them orally summarized every morning by CIA director George Tenet. President Clinton, by contrast, read them closely and alone, preventing any aides from interpreting what he wanted to know firsthand. He extensively marked up his PDBs, demanding action on this or that, which is almost certainly the reason the Bush administration withheld his memoranda from the 9/11 commission.

“I know he doesn’t read,” one former Bush National Security Council staffer told me. Several other former NSC staffers corroborated his habit. It seems highly unlikely that he read the National Intelligence Estimate on WMD before the Iraq war that consigned contrary evidence and caveats that undermined the case to footnotes and fine print. There is no record that he raised any questions about the abuse of intelligence. Nor is there any evidence that he read the State Department’s 17-volume report “The Future of Iraq,” warning of nearly all the postwar pitfalls, that was shelved by the neocons in the Pentagon and Vice President Cheney’s office. “He probably didn’t even know of ‘The Future of Iraq,’” said a former NSC staffer.

Nor was Bush aware of similar warnings urgently being sounded by the military’s top strategic analysts. I have learned that a monograph, “Reconstructing Iraq,” by the U.S. Army War College’s Strategic Studies Institute, predicting in detail “possible severe security difficulties” and conflicts among Iraqis that U.S. forces “can barely comprehend,” was suppressed by the Pentagon neocons, and only released to U.S. Central Command after Sen. Joseph Biden, ranking Democrat on the Foreign Relations Committee, directly intervened. By then, the problems foreseen were already overwhelming Iraq.

A revolt within the military against Bush is brewing. Many in the military’s strategic echelon share the same feelings of being ignored and ill-treated by the administration that senior intelligence officers voice in private. “The Pentagon began with fantasy assumptions on Iraq and worked back,” one of them remarked to me. Reflecting the developing consensus at that level, the Army War College has just issued a new monograph in which a senior Army strategist accuses the Bush administration of seeking to win “quickly and on the cheap” while having “either misunderstood or, worse, wished away” the predicted problems.

As the iconic image of the “war president” has tattered, another picture has emerged. Bush appears as a passive manager who enjoys sitting atop a hierarchical structure, unwilling and unable to do the hard work that a real manager has to do in order to run the largest enterprise in the world. He does not seem to absorb data unless it is presented to him in simple, crystal-clear fashion by people whose judgment he trusts. He is receptive to information that agrees with his point of view rather than information that challenges it. This therefore leads to enormous power on the part of the trusted interlocutors, who know and bolster his predilections. Thus Rice fulfills Bush’s idea of the national security advisor as the comforting briefer.

At his press conference, Bush was a confusion of absolute confidence and panic. He jumbled facts and conflated threats, redoubling the vehemence of his incoherence at every mildly skeptical question. Whenever he could, he drove himself back to the safety of 9/11 – and then disclaimed responsibility. He attempted to create a false political dichotomy between “retreat” and his own vague and evolving position on Iraq, which now appears to follow Sen. John Kerry’s of granting more authority to the U.N. and bringing in NATO.

The ultimate revelation was Bush’s vision of a divinely inspired apocalyptic struggle in which he is the leader of a crusade bringing the Lord’s “gift.” “I also have this belief, strong belief that freedom is not this country’s gift to the world. Freedom is the Almighty’s gift to every man and woman in this world. And as the greatest power on the face of the earth we have an obligation to help the spread of freedom.” But religious war is not part of official U.S. military doctrine.

About the writer
Sidney Blumenthal, a former assistant and senior advisor to President Clinton and the author of “The Clinton Wars,” is writing a column for Salon and the Guardian of London. Join Sid Blumethal along with Ann Richards, David Talbot and others on the Salon Cruise.

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About the writer
Sidney Blumenthal, a former assistant and senior advisor to President Clinton and the author of "The Clinton Wars," is writing a column for Salon and the Guardian of London. Join Sid Blumethal along with Ann Richards, David Talbot and others on the Salon Cruise.
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That says all that I wanted to know about this article. Not worth reading.

He's a clinton guy. Plus he is a jew. Jews are evil remember.

Thats almost funny, a Clinton era official with any insight to the military. Clinton was hated by the military.

Reenlistment rates are way up for all branches of the military. If they were that disgruntled, they would be leaving.

Fewer soldiers re-enlist Army sees dip as war increases need
By Dave Moniz
USA TODAY

WASHINGTON – The number of soldiers staying in the Army is falling just as the demand is increasing in Iraq.

Through March 17, nearly halfway through the fiscal year, the Army fell about 1,000 short of meeting its goal of keeping 25,786 soldiers whose enlistments were ending or who were eligible to retire. That works out to a 96% retention rate.

Last year, the retention figure was 106% because more soldiers stayed than the Army had planned. The retention goal assumes that not all eligible to stay will remain.

Military personnel experts have warned that full-time soldiers and members of the Guard and Reserve could begin leaving this year because of the strains of service, including longer and more frequent overseas missions. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld acknowledged Thursday that the Defense Department will extend duty in Iraq beyond one year for 20,000 soldiers. Their time in Iraq will grow as much as 90 days.

‘‘We regret having to extend those individuals,’’ Rumsfeld said. ‘‘The country is at war, and we need to do what is necessary to succeed.’’

Helen Powell’s husband, Sgt. 1st Class Arnold Powell, 47, was scheduled to come home at the end of the month. ‘‘I have something from every holiday he’s missed,’’ said Powell, 44, of Fort Polk, La. ‘‘I’ve got stale Easter candy in this basket. I know it sounds stupid. That’s just something I do for me to cope.’’

The extension comes after two weeks of violence in Iraq, including the kidnappings of 40 people and a series of deadly attacks on convoys and U.S. troops.

There are 137,000 U.S. troops in Iraq. Plans called for the military to reduce its troop levels to about 105,000 this summer, but Rumsfeld said Thursday he could make no guarantees about future troop levels.

David Segal, a military sociologist at the University of Maryland, says dangers in Iraq will continue to cause problems for the Army, which is supplying most of the U.S. troops there. ‘‘The recent events will have an effect on parents and spouses of soldiers,’’ he said. ‘‘Parents are going to increasingly question whether their kids should be in the military.’’

http://www.usatoday.com/usatonline/20040416/6120940s.htm

Get the facts right:

Some Media Anti-Military Bias Comes Through
Gordon Sawyer 4/15/04

Every now and then I get totally disgusted at the way our news media injects its anti-military opinion into legitimate news stories. For instance, the other day our local paper picked up a wire story about the increase in people volunteering for and re enlisting in the U. S. armed forces. The facts of the story reported that the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps and Coast Guard had all exceeded their recruiting and reenlistment goals for 2003, and were continuing to do so in 2004. That fact was finally reported in the 1 I"’ paragraph of the story. The ninth paragraph, talking about the National Guard, reported first-term re-enlistments had been projected at a normal 65% but had skyrocketed to 141 %. The goal for longer-term Guard soldiers was for 85% to reenlist, but with early enlistments came in at 136%. I don’t know how you measure those facts but I consider them very exciting indications that America’s military folks are very patriotic and proud of what they are doing.

So what did the lead paragraph say about these facts? Let’s quote: “Despite a rising tide of combat deaths and the prospects of deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan for years to come, Americans continue to volunteer for duty and are re-enlisting at record rates.” At no point in the story were facts given about a “rising tide” of combat deaths or long-term deployments, and yet some biased reporter got his anti-military opinion spread all over America … including Gainesville, Georgia. And to add insult to injury, the picture adjacent to this story about recruitment was of a funeral up in Tennessee, with no local tie whatever, under the headline “Man Killed In Iraq Is buried.” And the members of the vaunted media wonder why we think they are biased.

http://www.accessnorthga.com/articles/afullstory.asp?ID=80693

Battle of copy-pasters in full swing! :)

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haha, no shortage of them!

He who googles the fastest....:)

what?? you guys haven’t event debated the credibility of the source or when the article was written.. shame on you!!! :nono:

On gupshup quality does not matter....

Could you atleast bolden the one line in the article that vaguely support your position and leave the ones that contradict yor positions unboldened.

thanks much!!

Happy?

Guardsmen most likely to sign up again in the first quarter of 2004 were those who have just returned from Iraq, Saville said.

Saville said that personnel specialists have no hard evidence of why the spike in retention occurred among Iraq veterans, but they are almost certain that the principal reason is “a heightened sense of patriotism and a sense of mission.”

“It’s that ‘Band of Brothers’ thing working,” Saville said. “They feel better connected [to the Guard] than before they left [for Iraq].”

http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=&article=20800&archive=true

OG, oh that was your point..wait for some one to come up with this argument “the fact that Iraqi veterans want to go back to service Iraq is enough reason to believe that they get enough loot share and women to rape on their will. That is the only reason they want to go back”:wink:
Once again that proves the greed and cruelty of the American capitalists.:slight_smile:

^ Band of Brothers was produced by Spielberg who is a jew. So why should I believe in anyone who killed prophet Isa. Yeah..that is right..emmm I think!!

New sign-up bonus = one oil well!

OG, your faith is admirable but wrong. I don’t know if I can keep up with the cut & pastes but I can relate many first-person testimonials.

The anecdotes are too many. But there are other good key indicators. Every chain of command is getting beaten over the head on the retention issue. Some of the memos are quite blunt and cynical.. promoting retention of live bodies over quality of service. Despite all this the services are bleeding. Right now there are still some blocks in place, either stop loss or realities of transition, which mask the losses, but they’re already apparent even in this condition. The mood around the military is not all smiles. Quite the opposite. Of course there are still those who decide to stay in for whatever reason, but the simple fact of the matter is that we are facing elevated levels of troop separation.

Now to contribute to the links:
Stars & Stripes, Europe: letters to the editor Apr13
The spouses are always the first to scream during deployments, but these aren’t your usual gripes.

This would have been a better article to lead off this thread, still plenty of extraneous babbling but it gets a few important messages across:

Generals weary of low troop levels](http://www.suntimes.com/output/novak/cst-edt-novak08.html)

BY ROBERT NOVAK

While Democrats roar, the generals are silent – in public. Many confide that they will not cast their normal Republican votes on Nov. 2. They cannot bring themselves to vote for John Kerry, who has been a consistent Senate vote against the military. But they say they are unable to vote for Don Rumsfeld’s boss, and so will not vote at all.

– That’s the closing paragragh.. sums up the sentiment fairly accurately, though my gossip and plain ol’ intuition tells me many of these guys won’t simply abstain.

Spoon,

I live among these guys. Most of all they do not want the blood of their brother spilled, and then the job not completed. Griping in the Military is an Olympic level endeavor. It’s when they aren’t griping that you have to worry. Families are strained, men are killed, but the military guys I know all reupped. They all figure they will be back in a year again, as our guard unit just got back. Shoot, a Navy Reserve Admiral from our church just got called up. No complaints from him.

But it is disengenuous to portray griping about death, war, and family strains as “revolt”, based on the Army being behind 1,000 troops from their mid-year recruiting goal.

The place to watch is Hackworth’s web site, Soldiers For the Truth. If you see serious complaints there, then you worry.

http://www.sftt.org/dwarchive.html