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Models predicted New Orleans disaster, experts say

WASHINGTON, Sept 2 (Reuters) - Virtually everything that has happened in New Orleans since Hurricane Katrina struck was predicted by experts and in computer models, so emergency management specialists wonder why authorities were so unprepared.

“The scenario of a major hurricane hitting New Orleans was well anticipated, predicted and drilled around,” said Clare Rubin, an emergency management consultant who also teaches at the Institute for Crisis, Disaster, and Risk Management at George Washington University.

Computer models developed at Louisiana State University and other institutions made detailed projections of what would happen if water flowed over the levees protecting the city or if they failed.

In light of that, said disaster expert Bill Waugh of Georgia State University, “It’s inexplicable how unprepared for the flooding they were.” He said a slow decline over several years in funding for emergency management was partly to blame.

In comments on Thursday, President George W. Bush said, “I don’t think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees.”

But Louisiana State University engineer Joseph Suhayda and others have warned for years that defenses could fail. In 2002, the New Orleans Times Picayune published a five-part series on “The Big One” examining what might happen if they did.

-more- (describes what the model predicted and almost to a T that’s what happened)

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we have alot of blacks n arabs in detroit, which is kinda scary cuz if something happened here Bush wouldnt give a damn

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Here is the Disaster Drill that was done in the last couple of years to ready New Orleans. Almost spooky in it’s similarity, with the exception that the simulation assumed no levy breaking.

LSU Researchers Assist State Agencies with Hurricane Response Plans

“A helicopter hovers over a flooded area following passage of Hurricane Betsy, a Category Three storm that hit southeast Louisiana in September 1965, causing $1.4 billion in damage, 81 deaths, and a 10-foot storm surge.” Photo courtesy NOAA.

It is possibly the most exciting season of the year in South Louisiana. No, not LSU football season. Hurricane season, that June-through-November observance of satellite images of the tropics; of panicked citizens racing to grocery stores at the 11th hour to find shelves emptied of bread, bottled water, and flashlight batteries; of TV reporters dodging airborne trash cans in 100 miles per hour winds, yelling, “It stings!” as flying sand hits their wet, squinting faces.

Yes, it’s that time again. Are you ready?

Thanks to LSU’s hurricane experts, South Louisiana’s emergency officials are better prepared than ever to respond to the all-too-familiar threat of severe tropical weather.

This is Only a Test

Last summer, staff from the LSU Hurricane Center participated in the “Hurricane Pam Exercise,” a 10-day event designed to help emergency officials develop a response plan should a major hurricane threaten the greater New Orleans area.

Realistic weather and damage data generated by the National Weather Service, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, and the LSU Hurricane Center showed, with winds of 120 mph, the fictional Hurricane Pam would be a Category Three storm that would pour 20 inches of rain on parts of southeast Louisiana. In addition, more than one million residents would be forced to evacuate and nearly 600,000 buildings would be destroyed.

LSU Hurricane Center staff worked with the Louisiana Office of Emergency Preparedness, the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), and emergency officials from several parish, state, and federal agencies to help disaster response teams plan for search and rescue missions, medical care, sheltering, temporary housing, school restoration, and debris management.

“The exercise had enormous educational value to state and federal emergency managers,” said Ivor van Heerden, director of LSU’s Center for the Study of Public Health Impacts of Hurricanes.” It showed the scope of potential problems they will face and made them far more aware of the help they will need.”

Aftermath
From the simulation, officials estimate that a storm like Hurricane Pam would:

cause flooding that would leave 300,000 people trapped in New Orleans, many of whom would not have private transportation for evacuation;
send evacuees to 1,000 shelters, which would likely remain open for 100 days;
require the transfer of patients from hospitals in harm’s way to hospitals in other parts of the state;
trigger outbreaks of tetanus, influenza, and other diseases likely to be present after a storm;
create 30 million cubic yards of debris and 237,000 cubic yards of household hazardous waste.
As a result of the Hurricane Pam Exercise, agencies are in the process of applying what they learned to their emergency response plans. Those changes include:

assisting people without transportation – the American Red Cross is developing a program that would ask private citizens to collect people at area churches and transport them.
identifying more than 700 shelters and planning the locations for the remaining sites.
outlining patient movement details and determining how to set in motion existing immunization plans.
establishing a command structure that would employ up to 800 searchers.
identifying existing landfills capable of accepting hazardous waste and outlining debris removal plans.
One important result of the exercise was the understanding among agencies at all levels of the seriousness of such an event. “A White House staffer was briefed on the exercise,” said van Heerden. “There is now a far greater awareness in the federal government about the consequences of storm surges.”

Re-test
Soon, agencies will have even more storm data to utilize in their response plans.

“A second Hurricane Pam Exercise is planned for this summer,” said van Heerden. “Agencies will be able to expand on aspects of response and recovery that were not explored before.”
http://www.lsu.edu/highlights/052/pam.html

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Here is the Disaster Drill that was done in the last couple of years to ready New Orleans. Almost spooky in it's similarity, with the exception that the simulation assumed no levy breaking.

yes, that is because they are designed to stand a hurricane. the sole reason they exist is to prevent water from flowing in conditions like the one we saw few days ago.

someone fked up.

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After all this is cleaned up (hopefully pretty soon), there should be hell to pay. Those people suffering don’t deserve any of this, especially when preventive measures could and should have taken place. It’s naive to think that only Bush was calling the shots, apparently a lot of people ****ed up and should be held responsible.

In the meantime, get those donations in:

http://news.yahoo.com/fc/world/hurricanes_and_tropical_storms

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hang on, whats this about donating?

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red cross's online donation webpage has been down all day.

God bless the great american spirit.

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^ its works now

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Donating to America. Now thats something new.

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Wow. Here is an article from 2002. It’s not like everyone did not know…

THE BIG ONE
A major hurricane could decimate the region, but flooding from even a moderate storm could kill thousands. It’s just a matter of time.

By Mark Schleifstein and John McQuaid
Staff writers

The line of splintered planks, trash and seaweed scattered along the slope of New Orleans’ lakefront levees on Hayne Boulevard in late September 1998 marked more than just the wake of Hurricane Georges. It measured the slender margin separating the city from mass destruction.

“A catastrophic hurricane represents 10 or 15 atomic bombs in terms of the energy it releases. Think about it. New York lost two big buildings. Multiply that by 10 or 20 or 30 in the area impacted and the people lost, and we know what could happen.”

The debris, largely the remains of about 70 camps smashed by the waves of a storm surge more than 7 feet above sea level, showed that Georges, a Category 2 storm that only grazed New Orleans, had pushed waves to within a foot of the top of the levees. A stronger storm on a slightly different course – such as the path Georges was on just 16 hours before landfall – could have realized emergency officials’ worst-case scenario: hundreds of billions of gallons of lake water pouring over the levees into an area averaging 5 feet below sea level with no natural means of drainage.

That would turn the city and the east bank of Jefferson Parish into a lake as much as 30 feet deep, fouled with chemicals and waste from ruined septic systems, businesses and homes. Such a flood could trap hundreds of thousands of people in buildings and in vehicles. At the same time, high winds and tornadoes would tear at everything left standing. Between 25,000 and 100,000 people would die, said John Clizbe, national vice president for disaster services with the American Red Cross.

“A catastrophic hurricane represents 10 or 15 atomic bombs in terms of the energy it releases,” said Joseph Suhayda, a Louisiana State University engineer who is studying ways to limit hurricane damage in the New Orleans area. “Think about it. New York lost two big buildings. Multiply that by 10 or 20 or 30 in the area impacted and the people lost, and we know what could happen.”

Hundreds of thousands would be left homeless, and it would take months to dry out the area and begin to make it livable. But there wouldn’t be much for residents to come home to. The local economy would be in ruins.

The scene has been played out for years in computer models and emergency-operations simulations. Officials at the local, state and national level are convinced the risk is genuine and are devising plans for alleviating the aftermath of a disaster that could leave the city uninhabitable for six months or more. The Army Corps of Engineers has begun a study to see whether the levees should be raised to counter the threat. But officials say that right now, nothing can stop “the big one.”

Like coastal Bangladesh, where typhoons killed 100,000 and 300,000 villagers, respectively, in two horrific storms in 1970 and 1991, the New Orleans area lies in a low, flat coastal area. Unlike Bangladesh, New Orleans has hurricane levees that create a bowl with the bottom dipping lower than the bottom of Lake Pontchartrain. Though providing protection from weaker storms, the levees also would trap any water that gets inside – by breach, overtopping or torrential downpour – in a catastrophic storm.

“Filling the bowl” is the worst potential scenario for a natural disaster in the United States, emergency officials say. The Red Cross’ projected death toll dwarfs estimates of 14,000 dead from a major earthquake along the New Madrid, Mo., fault, and 4,500 dead from a similar catastrophic earthquake hitting San Francisco, the next two deadliest disasters on the agency’s list.

The projected death and destruction eclipse almost any other natural disaster that people paid to think about catastrophes can dream up. And the risks are significant, especially over the long term. In a given year, for example, the corps says the risk of the lakefront levees being topped is less than 1 in 300. But over the life of a 30-year mortgage, statistically that risk approaches 9 percent.

In the past year, Federal Emergency Management Agency officials have begun working with state and local agencies to devise plans on what to do if a Category 5 hurricane strikes New Orleans.

Shortly after he took office, FEMA Director Joe Allbaugh ordered aides to examine the nation’s potential major catastrophes, including the New Orleans scenario.

“Catastrophic disasters are best defined in that they totally outstrip local and state resources, which is why the federal government needs to play a role,” Allbaugh said. “There are a half-dozen or so contingencies around the nation that cause me great concern, and one of them is right there in your back yard.”

In concert with state and local officials, FEMA is studying evacuation procedures, postdisaster rescue strategies, temporary housing and technical issues such as how to pump out water trapped inside the levees, said Michael Lowder, chief of policy and planning in FEMA’s Readiness, Response and Recovery directorate. A preliminary report should be completed in the next few months.

Louisiana emergency management officials say they lobbied the agency for years to study how to respond to New Orleans’ vulnerability, finally getting attention last year.

With computer modeling of hurricanes and storm surges, disaster experts have developed a detailed picture of how a storm could push Lake Pontchartrain over the levees and into the city.

“The worst case is a hurricane moving in from due south of the city,” said Suhayda, who has developed a computer simulation of the flooding from such a storm. On that track, winds on the outer edges of a huge storm system would be pushing water in Breton Sound and west of the Chandeleur Islands into the St. Bernard marshes and then Lake Pontchartrain for two days before landfall.

“Water is literally pumped into Lake Pontchartrain,” Suhayda said. "It will try to flow through any gaps, and that means the Inner Harbor Navigation Canal (which is connected to Breton Sound by the Mississippi River-Gulf Outlet) and the Chef Menteur and the Rigolets passes.

“So now the lake is 5 to 8 feet higher than normal, and we’re talking about a lake that’s only 15 or 20 feet deep, so you’re adding a third to a half as much water to the lake,” Suhayda said. As the eye of the hurricane moves north, next to New Orleans but just to the east, the winds over the lake switch around to come from the north.

“As the eye impacts the Mississippi coastline, the winds are now blowing south across the lake, maybe at 50, 80, 100 mph, and all that water starts to move south,” he said. “It’s moving like a big army advancing toward the lake’s hurricane-protection system. And then the winds themselves are generating waves, 5 to 10 feet high, on top of all that water. They’ll be breaking and crashing along the sea wall.”

Soon waves will start breaking over the levee.

“All of a sudden you’ll start seeing flowing water. It’ll look like a weir, water just pouring over the top,” Suhayda said. The water will flood the lakefront, filling up low-lying areas first, and continue its march south toward the river. There would be no stopping or slowing it; pumping systems would be overwhelmed and submerged in a matter of hours.

“Another scenario is that some part of the levee would fail,” Suhayda said. “It’s not something that’s expected. But erosion occurs, and as levees broke, the break will get wider and wider. The water will flow through the city and stop only when it reaches the next higher thing. The most continuous barrier is the south levee, along the river. That’s 25 feet high, so you’ll see the water pile up on the river levee.”

As the floodwaters invade and submerge neighborhoods, the wind will be blowing at speeds of at least 155 mph, accompanied by shorter gusts of as much as 200 mph, meteorologists say, enough to overturn cars, uproot trees and toss people around like dollhouse toys.

The wind will blow out windows and explode many homes, even those built to the existing 110-mph building-code standards. People seeking refuge from the floodwaters in high-rise buildings won’t be very safe, recent research indicates, because wind speed in a hurricane gets greater with height. If the winds are 155 mph at ground level, scientists say, they may be 50 mph stronger 100 feet above street level.

Buildings also will have to withstand pummeling by debris picked up by water surging from the lakefront toward downtown, with larger pieces acting like battering rams.

Ninety percent of the structures in the city are likely to be destroyed by the combination of water and wind accompanying a Category 5 storm, said Robert Eichorn, former director of the New Orleans Office of Emergency Preparedness. The LSU Hurricane Center surveyed numerous large public buildings in Jefferson Parish in hopes of identifying those that might withstand such catastrophic winds. They found none.

Amid this maelstrom, the estimated 200,000 or more people left behind in an evacuation will be struggling to survive. Some will be housed at the Superdome, the designated shelter in New Orleans for people too sick or infirm to leave the city. Others will end up in last-minute emergency refuges that will offer minimal safety. But many will simply be on their own, in homes or looking for high ground.

Thousands will drown while trapped in homes or cars by rising water. Others will be washed away or crushed by debris. Survivors will end up trapped on roofs, in buildings or on high ground surrounded by water, with no means of escape and little food or fresh water, perhaps for several days.

http://www.nola.com/washingaway/thebigone_1.html

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Ahem sorry to burst yor bubble, but no one and I mean no one gives a damn about Detriot :slight_smile: :flower1:

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Apparently the mayor did not read his own disaster plan:

Hundreds of buses:

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when the head of FEMA gets to know about the existence of Superdome as a refugee center through Paula Zahn, all bets are off..

next time Mr. Brown.. switch on a TV if you don't have a clue yourself.

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oh RIGHT! we got the big three here, we go down the economy goes DOWN

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The big 3 are managing to bring themselves down already…

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atleast they give a damn about us :hoonh:

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Personally, I agree with kaleem that Detroit is insignificant. It was pretty insignificant last time I went and I'm inshallah coming to take a peak at it in 2 weeks to see if it's even less significant than ever before....

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u guys can go screw urself :rolleyes: cuz you are just jealous

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i am significant, my familys significant n its scary that our dumb ass president doesnt care for so many lives

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Yeah that hell hole detriot is something to be really jealous about …NOT

HA HA HA