Re: Bush administration forced cuts in flood protection in N.O. ($ went to Iraq)
All you arm chair TV watching full of compassion pin heads. Let me give you a dose of reality. I live in Houston and have donated some time to help these poor folks out. There is so much crap in this thread..I dont know where to begin.Let me start with PCG.
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I bet you if they were all middle-class upper-class white people, you wouldn't be seeing what you're seeing.
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This statement is a perfect example of I am sitting 5000 miles away but I have an opinion about everything (what is new). PCG did you know that a day before the storm struck, most of the buses used for public transportation were sent to pick these "poor balck folks" up and transfer them to other cities/states. This after Mayor ordered everyone to evacuate. You know what ? These "poor black people" refused to leave...they wanted to ride it out. Its bad, but enjoy the ride now.
This is why I hate the liberal media...they never ever tell you the whol story. How do I know this? I have talked to people who are here from the same "poor neighborhoods".
Surror and LI, please dont be a media head. You need to understand the reality of the situation. If the a-holes are shooting at the helicopters sent to rescue them...I dont blame the helicopter pilots and rescue crew to refuse to go back there.
UTD: Hindsight....you need a light for that. If Clinton had not dismantled the CIA and other intelligence agencies and taken OBL when he had him in the cross hairs, we would not have 9/11 now would we. So give us all a break and stop playing the politics card. Its time to help. All of you who are just enjoying the show ...either donate money to help or shut the eff up.
Re: Bush administration forced cuts in flood protection in N.O. ($ went to Iraq)
the news ppl are calling it a 'national disgrace for america'. ppl are dying of hunger.. there are kids who havent had anything to eat since 2 days now. there are women crying because they dont have proper medication, health care necessities. u'd expect this from a third world country with no resources what so ever, but its shocking to see in this happening in US, a first world country. what's taking them so long? with all their latest technology and bullet proof stuff, they can't get to the ppl to help already? i doubt 4 news channels , excluding FOX cannot be making all this up. where did u think these poor ppl wud've gone to if they would have left?
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Suroor...there is a big dome called Astrodome in Houston, which has been fitted with all necessaties possible to hold upto 30,000 people. Again, you people have no idea of the ground reality but want to put your two cents in which are not even worth 2 cents because you dont knwo what you are talking about.
Re: Bush administration forced cuts in flood protection in N.O. ($ went to Iraq)
I just got done looking at images on Google Earth of the Mississippi coastline after Katrina. Just amazing. Every structure is just gone, blown apart. I get the feeling that inspite of the press coverage that we are looking through a soda straw. I don’t think we are really grasping the enormity of this event. Hurricane Andrew was one area, one state. This is three states, over a huge area.
Re: Bush administration forced cuts in flood protection in N.O. ($ went to Iraq)
Suroor bajo, aap to naraaz hi ho gaie…Its just frustrating to hear people use the race and politics card when its truly is time to help.Its not time to find faults but to help cover those faults up…the goal is to provide help to those who need it.
Re: Bush administration forced cuts in flood protection in N.O. ($ went to Iraq)
Suroor, its a big arse area with seweage water surrounding the trapped victims. You cannot take a truck in their to pick all of them up, now can you. In some parts the water is deep enogh that trucks/vehicles cannot be operated yet not deep enough for a boat. The Govt. is doing all it can to help the victims....can they do it better...yes. Lets see what tomorrow brings, hopefully things will improve.
Re: Bush administration forced cuts in flood protection in N.O. ($ went to Iraq)
Bull fuking **** Kaleem. There were 10 of thousands who couldn’t leave kaleem and there are tens of thousands who still can’t leave, who are you trying to kid? You think the liberal media is making this up, you really are nuts.
Re: Bush administration forced cuts in flood protection in N.O. ($ went to Iraq)
I was in Newport for Hurricane Bob in 1991. We got an evacuation order, but I sent to a local nursing home and volunteered. But even if I hadn't done that, I wouldn't have evacuated. It's human nature not to want to leave your home. Bob hit with 100mph winds, and the power was off for 5 days.
Somehow I think that Category 4 or Category 5 does not really describe the power of this storm. The swath of damage is hundreds of miles wide, and a long way inland.
"The battle between nature and man is almost over, but the battle between man and man is just beginning. The scene here is more Africa than America.
From the air the destruction is humbling, luxury yachts thrown about like toys. Looking closer there is stagnant, dirty water, and then there are the survivors, mostly poor, black and angry. You see dead bodies here as you wander around the streets. "
"In the centre of the city thousands have gathered outside the stadium waiting for a seat in the long convoy of buses and evacuation. Most waited without any food or water.
A group of elderly residents of a care home in wheelchairs sat bewildered in the ninety degree heat and rain. The evacuation appears agonisingly slow and it’s unclear why, after three days, so many people seem to be without relief supplies.
One man, fury and exhaustion etched on his face, shouted at me: “This is America, why are we in this situation?”.
^ that is the question everyone is asking. this shouldn’t be happening in america, n yet it is. Bush administration is in big trouble.
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Kaleem bhaijaan even if we accept your argument about people not leaving on their own and refusing help (u probably got that from listening to Rush 'pills' Limbaugh today?) what is keeping the FEMA response team from getting buses up there and evacuating the hell out of the city right now?
there are hungry destitute people herded behind barricades sitting there waiting for help.. where's the help to them NOW? forget the past and forget those mythical means of transportation.. do u really believe that if they'd taken up this offer there were enough buses to evacuate the city.. BULLCRAP is what I say.
Yeah we're being good neighbors and inviting them over.. u are safe in suburbs.. i live next doors to a Red Cross shelter.. and i'm NOT comfortable with a sudden influx of 300 strangers mostly desperate, angry and on the edge..
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The handling of the situation was terrible.
1) China managed to evacuate 600,000 people from its coast this week due to bad weather. Why did the Bush administration or state government not provide mass mandatory evacuation for the poor in New Orleans rather than leaving those who could not afford to flee to die?
2) Why was the break down of law and order tolerated for so long, rather than having martial law declared as soon as reports of looting came in?
3) Why has so much time been allowed to pass before shoot-to-kill orders were issued to soldiers to combat looting?
4) Given how most of the local National Guardsmen were unavailable due to their having to kill Iraqis, why were all available remaining National Guard from all over the USA not mobilised ASAP and deployed to souther Louisiana?
Re: Bush administration forced cuts in flood protection in N.O. ($ went to Iraq)
One has to wonder at this point about the entire N.O. housing stock. So many homes are underwater, and have been underwater for days, that you have to wonder when they are so hopelessly damaged that they will be plowed under. A house that has been that soaked simply cannot be habitable. Undoubtedly people still continue NO their homes, but you have to imagine that many of these people will find jobs in Texas, and never return. I think we are seeing the death of a great deal of the city, and one has to wonder if whole sections of the city will have to be leveled.
That means that probably 300,000 people will have to be absorbed in other parts of the country. Most will not buy homes, but will initially rent, probably subsidized by FEMA for some time. Schools will have to be expanded, and there will be a huge load on local services. The refugess that are being moved to Houson will probably stay in Houston.
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Well, at least short term the deficit would increase. On the other hand, todays job reports show unemployment at less than 4.9%, and tax receipts are running well ahead of budget projections as the economy hums along. I would imagine that some Public Works programs will be implemented, putting people back to work, and cleaning and clearing the city, as well as Mississipi and Alabama. More than likely that is the debate that will start in Congress when they reconviene.
