Burial of the Martyrs

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Sorry Hareem bhai, Allah cannot guide the terrorist Mullahs. These fasid Jahannam raseeds like Mullah Rasheed are clearly following Shaitan. And anyone following Shaitani terrorism can never get guidance from Allah (period).

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How can I pray for guidance for a person who's not in this world anymore..........I'm asking for guidance for us muslims who are living in this world.
BTW how do you know if someone went to hell or Paradise?

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^ why dont you have the same degree of rigour when someone claims that all of the Pakistan army is murtid?

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Its not my duty to go in every thread and teach people.

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Muslims following terrorists will not get guidance.

Muslims following peaceful and caring ways are already guided. So save your prayers for yourself in the hope that you won't end up in a terrorist camp (or worse in Gitmo).

Allah knows best off course.

However it will be pretty stupid to ask Allah that HE let terrorists in the Jannat. Remember Allah made Jannat as the most peaceful and loving place. Where men and women will live in happiness for eternity.

People who would qualify for Jannat must live the most peaceful and productive life on earth. The only fighting is allowed when you are trying to annihilate terrorists and fasadis (anarchists) who won't let you live in peace.

BTW any terrorist admitted in Jannat will quickly set up a terror den called Mad-house rassha. They will start kinapping hoors and harrasing ghilman. Can you imagine one Mullah with 3 ghilman and the other with just one. This will surely be a recipe of terrorist attacks and kidapping (ghilman-napping) right in the middle of Jannat. And then Allah mian has to find another place to build a new Jannat.

Hope you understand these finer points of life. And make sure you continue praying for yourself.

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Very excellent post indeed.

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wow!! nice language and nice comemnts for the mullahs...
you surely have the Jannat tickets in ur pocket.. or did God made u incharge of hell or heaven..
and i m talking in context of Lal masjid.. DID these mullahs kill anyone (before operation)?.
why all the hoopla abt this..
an organization go on a killing spree in karachee and president tells the nation that there is no need of an investigation so that killers can go free..was that Not a CHALLENGE to the bloody writ of this government..
but pity u.. u only look one side of the story

keep looking..
and plz spare me the jahannam raseed plz

:)

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Salaam boota bhai from Lahore. good post.

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Yeap. This is what J.R. Mullah Rasheed said before leaving for you know where!

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Thank you. You know it is really tough to say something "nice" about Mullahs. But somebody gotta do it.

So you would rather give the auspicious job of carrying ticket to J.R. Mullah Rasheed! Good Choice Boota Ji.

Mullahs and their suicider friends have been blowing up other Mullahs and minority groups such as Pakistani-Shias, Pakistani-Ahmadis, and Pakistani-Christians. These Mullus have also killed 10's if not 100's of law enforcement troopers. What more do you need? Haan Boota Ji. May be you are using some "special" kind of filter on your eyes that makes you see just "hara hara" (green).

Two wrongs don't make it right for Mullus to start their armed Jihad bil fasad. OK!

There are no smilies while getting Jahannam raseed. Just ask these Mullahs.

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No he didn't. But most likely he was saying shahada at the time of his death.

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khatoon sahiba, he was referring to the very first post of this very thread:

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Wait, you said they didn't spare but then you say they "disappeared".... what exactly are you suggesting here?

Army didn't supply Rashid Ghazi with arms and ammunition, those who vandalized civilian/government property were not army, those who gave suicide-bombing threats were not army.

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a post she responded to btw

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Very Sad....May Allah guide us muslims to the straight path.

And thats what I wrote in response to this very first post of this very thread.
Anyway, you can teach laeeqkhan and he can answer you back better than me in defence of his statement. Laeeq khan have reasons to call them murtadid but no one has ilmul ghaib to declare others jahanumi.

Also I want to tell you that there is a huge difference between declaring a person murtadid and declaring a died person jahanumi. This is part of muslim aqeedah that no one can declare no one a jahanumi. Hope you understand.

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Not really, both sides (one calling murtad, one calling jahannumi) are using their own brain-cells to come to that conclusion, none of them have ghaibi information about other's hearts/destiny.

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yes I agree......at least I myself don't call anyone murtdid or jahannumi.....you can see my posts for refs.

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The students who were there only to study and then ended up as ghazi's uman shields and died are martyrs I suppose because they were in pursuit of education.
(although one can argue that the type of education matters too, if someone is learnign how to blow up people or make nudie flicvks and dies while learning, I doubt that person can be considered a shaheed..but i digress)

anyways so the students are shaheed per my understanding, minus the students who had given into militancy and were commiting crimes.

rest anyone can debate about.

I am just glad that militant ass got whooped.

people will find all kinds of excuses to try and exonerate a terrorist who had an arsenal in a masjid, harassed people, took the law into this own hands, and in the end did not want to face any justice.

well too bad, now he will face the ultimate justice...

good riddance