Building a mosque over a grave

Narrated `Aisha:

**Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) in his fatal illness said, “Allah cursed the Jews and the Christians, for they built the places of worship at the graves of their prophets.”

And if that had not been the case, then the Prophet’s grave would have been made prominent before the people. So (the Prophet (ﷺ) ) was afraid, or the people were afraid that his grave might be taken as a place for worship.**

[Sahih Al-Bukhaari Hadith No. 1390]

Praying in a mosque in which there is a grave falls into two categories:

 Either the grave was there      before the mosque, and the mosque was built over the grave. It is essential      to shun this mosque and not pray therein, and the one who built it must      knock it down; if he does not do so, then the Muslim authorities must knock      it down.


 Or the *mosque was there before      the grave*, and the deceased was buried after the mosque was built. In the      case the grave must be dug up, and the remains taken out and buried with the      people (in the graveyard).


      As for praying in such a mosque, it is permissible so long as      the grave is not in front of the worshiper, because the Prophet  (peace      and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade praying in the direction of      graves. 


      With regard to the grave of the Prophet  (peace and      blessings of Allaah be upon him) which is incorporated into his mosque, it      is well known that the Mosque of the Prophet  (peace and blessings of      Allaah be upon him) **was built before his leaving this world, and was not built over his      grave**. 

It is also well known that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was not buried in the mosque, rather he was buried in his house which was separate from the mosque.

At the time of al-Waleed ibn ‘Abd al-Malik he wrote to his governor in Madeenah, who was ‘Umar ibn ‘Abd al-‘Azeez, in 88 AH, ordering him to dismantle the Prophet’s Mosque and add to it the rooms of the wives of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). ‘Umar gathered the prominent people and fuqaha’, and read the letter of the caliph al-Waleed to them. That caused them distress, and they said: “Leave it as it is, that is better.” And it was narrated that Sa’eed ibn al-Musayyib denounced the incorporation of ‘Aa’ishah’s room into the mosque, as if he feared that the grave would be taken as a place of worship.

      Umar wrote a letter to that effect to al-Waleed, and      al-Waleed sent word to him ordering him to carry out his instructions, so      ‘Umar had no other choice.  **So you see that the grave of the Prophet       (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was not placed in the mosque,      and the mosque was not built over it, so there are no grounds for those who      try to quote this as evidence that people may be buried inside mosques or      that mosques may be built over graves**.

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Hadith - Book of Funerals (Al-Janaa’iz) - Sahih al-Bukhari - Sunnah.com - Sayings and Teachings of Prophet Muhammad (??? ??? ??? ? ???)

The translation of that hadith is wrong … It is not places of worship but places of sujood - technically speaking - what is forbidden here is the masjid. Not any other place where other forms of worship can be undertaken. Such as du’a or dhikr. In fact we are encouraged to do du’a at graves.

Looking around the Muslim world we see many masajid being built next to graves … and many of the tombs in the middle east are targets by ISIS because of such mistranslations and extreme zealous ideas.

Objectively speaking all of the places that I have visited in the recent years clearly demarcate the grave or tomb from the prayer area - the places where sujood are done. The least separate and the hardest to distinguish between masjid and tomb is actually Madinah the Mosque of RasoolAllah (SAW).

So my argument is if you intend to destroy any grave site - that would be the one to start with … otherwise stop accusing the past ummah of doing haram by building upon graves. If you can justify and make excuses for the second holiest sanctuary than bring the same consistent level of justification for the other places around the world - that I note - are more separate and clearly not places of praying salat.

The further explanatory notes of what is built before or afterwards is a personal ijtihad and has no weight in my books. You simply do not dig up graves … Don’t empower the heinous acts of the ISIS please …

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I’ll just like to accept the Honour of inclusion of The Blessed Rawda Sharif within the Prophet SallAllahu Alaihi wa Ahlihi wa Sallam Masjid on behalf of Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah [barelvis]

It is only us that would do this, and its nice to see we were present and had ijma at such an early age of Islam 88ah

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No, the translation is not wrong at all. The word is being used in reference to the Jews and Christians. They did not have mosques but places of worship.

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Brother ZeeshanParvez

Which establishment of the Jews and Christians exactly are spoken about? The ones where tombs are made “places of worship”? What did the Jews and Christians actually do in such places?

I note - you have not bothered to even contest my earlier claim about your line of thinking justifying the desecration of graves.

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Furthermore, that hadith does not have anything to do with “building” masajid, but rather about “appointing” (ittakhadza) graves of prophets as worshipful … i.e. doing worship - specifically sajdah on graves. This is a forbidden practice …

However, to equate this with the act of building masajid near to graves is wrong and a convoluted accusation. Had it taken that meaning then the Salaf would have made sure RasoolAllah (SAW) would be buried well away from the Madinah harum. That is equivalent to claiming better knowledge than them too.

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Because you have demonstrated your inability to use Sibaak u Siyaak (a major component in understanding Arabic may I add) in understanding Arabic text and accused the translator - which was not me - of a wrong translation when your own is which is wrong.

Second, you all your facts wrong. Re read.

Then read what Ibn Hajar said in this thread.

It is always good to first consult classical texts and what all scholars have said before jumping with both feet into an situation. The bias of vroom and his inability to be unbiased in front of facts is apparent. I hope you won’t turn out like him. Until then I have no time to answer your questions as they are not based on facts of Hadith and History. Sorry.

And your incorrect facts are further demonstrated by the following.

And if after the thread I posted above you are still confused I suggest you pick up a book on Usool Al-Fiqh and first understand blocking the means because I do not have time to teach you all that as well. Until then you can post your opinion but as far as I am concerned I will not be entertaining it. My threads are not for debate or discussion but for the unbiased reader to realize what Islam is.

You believe in building graves, I won’t be losing sleep over it. I will be calling a spade a spade and you really can’t stop that since this is a public forum just like I cannot stop your incorrect views about graves and Istigathaa.

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  1. I note that the caliph wished it but not the prominent and fuqaha of Madinah

  2. I note that the grave was not disturbed but the masjid was instructed to be moved.

  3. Despite it being joined to the masjid today the burial chamber of RasoolAllah (SAW) is empirically closest to the masjid that I have ever seen. Which means none of the rest of the world’s masajid nor the tombs that they have in their grounds should be desecrated. Madinah is the standard to go by …

  4. All of this material you bring is still subject to cross-examination.

You say it is truth … Really it is opinion …

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The caliph sought to expand The Mosque to include the Rawda Sharif, The companions alive at the time said to leave as it was, to preserve. Now that is a word preserve

So what happened was everyone was catered for. The Mosque was expanded to include The Blessed Rawda Sharif, The Room of The Prophet SallAllahu Alaihi wa Ahlihi wa Sallam was preserved as it was

SubhanAllah