Bugti's son files case against Musharraf

Re: Bugti's son files case against Musharraf

When the state (or army chief/pres) intervenes and clears/pardons an army personnel who rapes a Baluchi woman (Dr. Shazia), such 'traitors' are bound to take up arms. Call them traitors, trouble makers, or nationalists, that doesnt matter.

are u serious i m not justifying mush but bugtti himself murder i dont how many innocent people for so long n they culd nt get any justice.was nt he just like mush who did nt give a s...t about common man.n by the way where is dr shazia now do u know how many women these baluchi sardar rapes?

Re: Bugti's son files case against Musharraf

BLA took up arms in 2004, killing Chinese nationals in Gwadar. The woman was raped in Jan or Feb 2005.

Ofcourse Bugti could have ESP, who knows.

Yes, both are murderers, and both deserve trials. As for Dr. Shazia, she left Pakistan and last I heard was in the woe of some financial problems because of medical treatment. She was not raped by a Baluchi Sardar, she was raped by a Captain in the Army!

Comprehension issues? Read again, I said 'such' traiters take up arms. Dr. Shazia's case is just one example of the Govt screwups that lead to Baluchis taking up arms, and then the army going out to kill them calling them traitors. Same happens in Kashmir, depends on what side you look at.

so you werent talking about Bugti in particular, but 'such' traitors. So lets extend your reasoning, which rape did Bugti take up arms over, was there also one in 2004?

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Dr. Shazia's case is just one example of the Govt screwups that lead to Baluchis taking up arms, and then the army going out to kill them calling them traitors. Same happens in Kashmir, depends on what side you look at.
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Same happens in Karachi, your MQM pals would argue.

Point is, there is a way to take up your causes. If you want to work within the law, you do so peacably, and dont fight the state forces and blow things up. This is what the pro-freedom political parties in Kashmir are doing. If not, if you take up arms, and attack the states resources and kill its personnel, you lose the legal protections all citizens have until youre arrested. If some leader from Jaish-e-Mohammad or some other seperatist jihadi group gets blown up by Indian army during his career as a militant, it would be laughable for them to sue the state.

Good question, Bugti's followers think that their province was being raped.

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Same happens in Karachi, your MQM pals would argue.

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Nope, MQM was getting a grand treatment while the BLA was in arms.

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Point is, there is a way to take up your causes. If you want to work within the law, you do so peacably, and dont fight the state forces and blow things up. This is what the pro-freedom political parties in Kashmir are doing. If not, if you take up arms, and attack the states resources and kill its personnel, you lose the legal protections all citizens have until youre arrested. If some leader from Jaish-e-Mohammad or some other seperatist jihadi group gets blown up by Indian army during his career as a militant, it would be laughable for them to sue the state.
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Thats funny :) How conveniently we draw differences from the two parallels.

Heh. very dramatic, but not quite the same emotive quality as a heroic avenger of a doctors rape.

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Nope, MQM was getting a grand treatment while the BLA was in arms.

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Not while the operation in the 90s was happening ;)

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Thats funny :) How conveniently we draw differences from the two parallels.
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Merely because differences serve to make the parallel more realistic. However In case you didnt get my nuanced point, I would have the same feelings if a Kashmiri militant was killed in Kashmir fighting the Indian army, and it would be stupid to expect the army/police to consult the court first. It would be perfectly legal, and wouldnt be murder.