Budha and Jesus (A.S)

Jesus was born of a virgin without carnal intercourse. (Matth. Chapter 1)
Buddha was born of a virgin without carnal intercourse. (Hinduism by Williams, pp. 82 and 108)


When Jesus was an infant in his cradle, he spoke to his mother and said: I am Jesus, the son of God. (Gospel of Infancy)
When Buddha was an infant, just born, he spoke to his mother and said: I am the greatest among men. (Hardy’s Manual of Buddhism, pp. 145-6)


The life of Jesus was threatened by King Herod. (Matth. 2:1)
The life of Buddha was threatened by King Bimbarasa. (History of Buddha by Beal pp. 103-104)


When Jesus was a young boy we are told that the learned religious teachers were astonished at his understanding and answers. (Luke 2:47)
When sent to school, the young Buddha surprised his masters. (Hardy’s Manual of Buddhism)


Jesus fasted for forty days and nights. (Matth. 4:2)
Buddha fasted for a long period. (Science of Religion by Muller, p 28)


It is believed that Jesus will return to this world. (Acts 1:11)
It is believed that Buddha will return to this world. (Angel-Messiah by Bunsen, Ch. 14)


Jesus said: Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets; I am not to destroy but to fulfill. (Matth. 5:17)
Buddha came not to destroy the law but to fulfill it. (Science of Religion by Muller, p 140)


Jesus taught: Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you. (Matth. 5:44)
According to Buddha, the motive of all our actions should be pity, or love for our neighbour. (Science of Religion by Muller, p 249)


It is recorded certain of the scribes and pharisees answered, saying, Master we would see a sign from thee. (Matth. 12:38)
It is recorded in the Sacred Canon of the Buddhists that the multitude required a sign from Buddha that they might believe. (Science of Religion by Muller, p 27)


It is written in the New Testament that Jesus said: *If thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and caste it from thee. *(Matth. 5:29)
A story is related of a Buddhist ascetic whose eye offended him so he plucked it out and threw it away. (Science of Religion by Muller, p 245)


The basic teachings of Buddha are very similar to those taught by Jesus most of which are contained in his Sermon on the Mount. (Matth. ch 5)
The essence of Buddha’s teachings are:

*Gautama Buddha taught that all men are brothers, that charity ought to be extended to all, even to enemies; that men ought to love truth and hate the lie; that good work ought not to be done openly; but rather in secret; that the dangers of riches are to be avoided; that man’s highest aim ought to be purity in thought, word and deed, since the higher things are pure, whose nature is akin to that of man. *
(The Angel-Messiah by Benson)

There are, indeed, also points of resemblance in the history of Buddha and Jesus. It has been declared that history of Jesus, as portrayed in the New Testament, is a copy of the history of Buddha:

*The most ancient of the Buddhistic records known to us contain statements about the life and the doctrines of Gautama Buddha which correspond in a resemblance manner, and impossibly by mere chance, with the traditions recorded in the Gospels about the life and teachings of Jesus. *
(The Angel-Messiah by Benson, p 50)

The view has been advanced that the similarities found in the lives and teachings of Gautama Buddha and Jesus could not happen by chance and that as Buddha is the older than Christianity then the former is the parent of the latter. This, of course, is speculation as there are many teachings and points similar and common to all religions.


Now I open this to floor. What are your opinions?

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well, since buddha hasn't been mentioned in the quran, he can or cannot be a prophet of God.. i mean, he could be but we're not sure.. having said that, we shouldn't say anything wrong about him coz what if he really was a prophet of God.. but for now, nuthin could be said.. so we'll just take him as a peaceful n gud man..

Yaar kuchH tu insaaf karo.

Jesus beleived in one God and upheld jewish law. He was sent to lost sheep of house of Israel.

Buddha did not even require his followers to beleive in God, he did not even knew about jewish law.

Bhai Jaan shaaid thori confusion ho gai aapko...

What was the Law Jesus AS came to upheld and not break? It was that Allah is One.

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Jesus said: Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets; I am not to destroy but to fulfill. (Matth. 5:17)
Buddha came not to destroy the law but to fulfill it. (Science of Religion by Muller, p 140)

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what I am trying to portray is that the basic teachings of Budha AS were also that Allah is one.

Allah sent many Prophets to this world; we know about few but we dont know about majority but Allah has also granted us this big head then to see and understand and distinguish truth.

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Law means reigious obligations, rituals and duties, like upholding sabbath, covering hair by women etc in jewish law.

You tell me what law Buddha was trying to uphold an plz not a 1 ine from some random guy's book but some original source of Buddhism.

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What is mentioned here is comparison between two Sacred personalities, if i take the selected quotes from Prophet Mohammad (SAAW) i am sure i'll be able to combine them with number of prophets.

on 2nd note, Allah Subhan.o.tala have mentioned in Quran that the Prophets have been sent to all corners and nations of earth, not all of them are mentioned in Quran but that does not make their status any less.

It is possibility that the Buddha might be a Prophet of his time to certain nation. Again it is a possibility only as i do not have much to back it up from Quran.

However, Comparing both and try to make them look one person in different role and that is on the basis of their books ( which btw are nulified by Quran) is not healthy exercise, yes we can discuss that what attribute does Buddah Shares with other prophets ( again by his teachings and not by his disputed birth story).

Yaar kuchH tu insaaf karo.

Jesus beleived in one God and upheld jewish law. He was sent to lost sheep of house of Israel.

Buddha did not even require his followers to beleive in God, he did not even knew about jewish law.
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Iconoclast they way you quoted Dtoxed, it was so misleading i thought Detoxed claimed that Buddha's teaching were similar to jesus; however he was just quoting different books and compare what people believe about both of them.

Ohh no no this is not what I am trying to do here at all. However trying to get opinions what do you think about the comparision. Basically what I think that Roles and Resposibilities of Prophets are same. They come to bring mankind closer to their Lord...which is Allah. And in the short comparison what I am trying to suggest that Budha and Jesus AS both seem to had similar mission. However as Hinduism has changed significantly..so as Judaism and Christianity. But this does not suggest that what Budhism is today was taught by Budha centuries ago!

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one indian muslim scholar has gone so far as to declare that the prophet "zul kifl" mentioned in Quran is indeed buddha....

I actually havent seen any proof of such claim.

well said.

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Brother Iconoclast has cleared the issue here ...

What we need to determine is not what "action" people are doing to determine their similarities but what "intention" lies behind those actions.

Muslims are a people who have "Islamic intentions" behind their "Islamic Actions"

Provide evidence of both and then compare

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I was listening to a scholar and he said that one of the biggest evidence that Budhdh could not be a prophet is because there was no concept of satar in his practice. Most of his body was always uncovered and covering the body is part of sharm o haya that was the core trait of all the prophets...

wallah o alam.

Peace TLK

That is interesting only because I have never heard of Buddha having his satar uncovered. He may have had his thighs showing but this is neither here nor there because our own prophet Muhammad (SAW) was reported to have his thighs showing when others were not allowed to do so …

Please read below … Although it can be argued either way I am of the opinion that it is allowed for prophets to show their thighs, however, due to his (SAW) personal shyness he covered them when in close proximity to others. To argue otherwise would make it seem that the prophet Muhammad (SAW) was negligent with satar and that is a big no no for me …

It is related from Ibn 'Abbas, Jarhad and Muhammad ibn Jahsh from the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace,“The thigh is one of the private parts.” Anas said, “The Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, uncovered his thigh.” The hadith of Anas is stronger, but the hadith of Jarhad is more complete in order to resolve the disagreement of the scholars .Abu Musa said, “The Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, covered his knees when 'Uthman entered.” Zayd ibn Thabit said, “Allah sent down revelation on His Messenger, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, while his thigh was resting on my thigh and it became so heavy that I was afraid that it would bruise my thigh.”

It is related from Anas, “The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, raided Khaybar and we prayed the Morning Prayer there when it was still dark. The Prophet of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, mounted, Abu Talha mounted, and I followed behind Abu Talha. The Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, rode quickly through the lane of Khaybar and my knee touched the thigh of the Prophet of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace. He had removed the wrapper from his thigh so that I could see the whiteness of the thigh of the Prophet of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace. When he entered the town, he said, ‘Allah is greater! Khaybar is ruined. When we alight in the courtyard of a people, it is an evil morning for those who have been warned.’ He said this three times. The people came out for their jobs and said, ‘Muhammad!’”

The Sahih Collection of al-Bukhari - Clothing in the Prayer - SunniPath Library - Hadith

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Interesting topic, I tend to agree with a-town boy on this one. It is debatable as to the exact personality of Bhudha as well. I notice that the concepts of bhudism change throughout asia. For example in china an India he is seen very differently to the images in Thailand. The usaul Image of Bhudha as a semi naked fat man is totally different to the Thai images which depict him ussually as a younger thin and often fully clothed man in long flowing robes.

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What is the main purpose of this thread?

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^Good question

Debate...share information...can Budha be called a Prophet of Allah? We dont neccesarily have to follow his teachings as Islam is complete faith.

The "semi naked fat man" as you called him is the chinese "Laughing Buddha", which is not the same as Gautama Buddha. He's a chinese monk called "Budai" and not to be confused with Gautama.

BTW, Buddha told his followers not to pray to him and prohibited them to make any images of him. It was the greek influence which inspired the Buddhists of the 1st century CE Gandhara region to make Idols of him. So yeah, the Buddhists from then on pretty much started disrespecting his teachings...

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