Broadband in Pakistan?

[18Plus]

Re: Broadband in Pakistan?

its is just like a dialup. I have used wol and wordcall broandband and max download speed i have seen yet is 15kb and your are lucky enough if you are getting 15kb or more.

Normal download speed is 6, 7kb.

[Najim]

Re: Broadband in Pakistan?

@BirdFlu

It's Bloody Expensive.

In India for $11 Per month u get Broadband 256 KBPS with free download of 1 GB

& for $45 Per month u get Broadband 256 KBPS with unlimited upload & download datatransfer

the lowest broadband tariff is USD $5.55 per month THATS CHEAP

India is way ahead,

The cheapest 256 K conneciton with unlimited downloads in Dehli is Indian Rs. 699 for home users (both cable & DSL options available). DSL provides static IP while cable is on dynamic.

Worldcall in Pakistan provides 64K connection cable for Rs 800 per month (unlimited downloads) for 1400 its 128K connection. DSL is mostly 256K with 2GB cap per month.

[hollowman]

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@Najim

India is way ahead,

The cheapest 256 K conneciton with unlimited downloads in Dehli is Indian Rs. 699 for home users (both cable & DSL options available). DSL provides static IP while cable is on dynamic.

Worldcall in Pakistan provides 64K connection cable for Rs 800 per month (unlimited downloads) for 1400 its 128K connection. DSL is mostly 256K with 2GB cap per month.

heheh.. you r absolutely right coz right now i'm sitting on the same connection what you've mentioned and I pay only 700/- for 256 unlimited traffic but according to Airtel scheme I get 512 kbps between 10 pm to 8 am. , very soon Wi-Fi connection is also gonna be installed in our area..

[kingshah]

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@risc

dude PK needs a major verhausl of IP infastructure. I presume it will come as plenty of money to be made. Probabaly be a wireless form of technology considering how bad copper lines and switching is.

Wireless communication is not only expensive but quite uneffective in bad weather. Better layout of fibre transmission gear would be great. My understanding is that Alcatel’s new DWDM system is going in place in what so call PAK’s Core network, including fibre to home which will eventually make things alot more stable.

Copper is fine for what it is used for at the moment, Up to 30/31 voice circuits. That is enough for a single home user.

[kingshah]

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@risc

with broadband being so expensive how are all of these very cheap call comapnies (VOIP) operating? same goes for call centres

VOIP = Not real time connection, thats a reason.
Call centres are on a total different platform.

[kingshah]

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@risc

so you cant get a decent net connection and want to take on India and others in the IT market?

So exactly what does India’s IP platform has that Pakistan’s don’t? I think you are confusing IT market and Telco market.

[kingshah]

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@risc

It’s all about the will. Here in the UK BB was priceey and not to fast at around 512mb max. Two years ago Tony decided to make it up the agenda. Opening up of markets. BB was around £25 for 512kb and now I pay £17 for 10mb. As a result of cheapish BB more home owners browse, and e-commere grown rapidly. All related to the quality, availabilaty and speed of internet connection. If Pakistan wants a chance of making it big in the e-world needs to get it’s IT infastructure sorted out. When I was their I got faster access through GSM than a telephone line.

That I like to see, if you call 14K with noisy lines a dial up connection than I beleive you.

[risc]

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Wireless communication is not only expensive but quite uneffective in bad weather. Better layout of fibre transmission gear would be great. My understanding is that Alcatel's new DWDM system is going in place in what so call PAK's Core network, including fibre to home which will eventually make things alot more stable.

Copper is fine for what it is used for at the moment, Up to 30/31 voice circuits. That is enough for a single home user.
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Copper is just about doable for ADSL in developed countries. Technology such as ADSl2 or VDSL having loads of problems. Copper is good for telephones, not other technologies.

When can you see fibre reaching the pinds? just about get telephone line now. Who is going to spend all that money digging up thousands of miles of roads when a wireless technology such as WiMax can offer a solution.

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VOIP = Not real time connection, thats a reason.
Call centres are on a total different platform.
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I dont know where you are getting this rubbish from. VOIP is so sensative to speed of routing. Thats why eash packet must follow the same routing path to arrive in sync. WTF is a 'not real time connection'?

VOIP is useless if it does not recieve in time e.g. next day or out of sync. I cant see someone waiting a minute for you to stop talking then reassembling packets in order. So VOIP is a REAL TIME application as defined in computer sciences.

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So exactly what does India's IP platform has that Pakistan's don't? I think you are confusing IT market and Telco market.
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For starters more thna one major IP link. Remeber what happend when the line connecting PK to UAE went down> Pakistan was cut off from the outside world.

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That I like to see, if you call 14K with noisy lines a dial up connection than I beleive you.
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Read up on EDGE which runs on GSM and provided now by Telenor. And that last quote of yours makes no sense.

[risc]

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May I also add I was involved in a major deal with WiMAX rollout in Pakistan. I can spill any details myself but heres a link to some other sources, not from my end: http://mansoorehsan.blogspot.com/2006/06/pakistan-plans-worlds-largest-mobile.html

[Rush]

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@risc

May I also add I was involved in a major deal with WiMAX rollout in Pakistan. I can spill any details myself but heres a link to some other sources, not from my end: http://mansoorehsan.blogspot.com/2006/06/pakistan-plans-worlds-largest-mobile.html

edited.

risc: would you like to reconsider your selection of words?

[risc]

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would you suggest an alternative phrase?

[Rush]

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post#29 less 3rd line

[risc]

Re: Broadband in Pakistan?

As you made a request very politely, I will oblige.

[Rush]

Re: Broadband in Pakistan?

Many thanks for your understanding, much obliged.

[kingshah]

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@risc

Copper is just about doable for ADSL in developed countries. Technology such as ADSl2 or VDSL having loads of problems. Copper is good for telephones, not other technologies.

Thats whats I said - 30/31 Voice Ccts.

@risc

When can you see fibre reaching the pinds? just about get telephone line now. Who is going to spend all that money digging up thousands of miles of roads when a wireless technology such as WiMax can offer a solution.

Pind today, first world tomorow. Besides, fibre is a permanent solution.

@risc

I dont know where you are getting this rubbish from. VOIP is so sensative to speed of routing. Thats why eash packet must follow the same routing path to arrive in sync.

No kidding genius.

@risc

WTF is a ‘not real time connection’?
VOIP is useless if it does not recieve in time e.g. next day or out of sync. I cant see someone waiting a minute for you to stop talking then reassembling packets in order. So VOIP is a REAL TIME application as defined in computer sciences.

Data is transmitted if there is activity only. Unlike old PSTN network, voice channels are not opened for the entire speech. I really don’t understand how it is defined as real time application in your computer science. Once again, you are dragging this away from Telco’s point of view.

@risc

For starters more thna one major IP link. Remeber what happend when the line connecting PK to UAE went down> Pakistan was cut off from the outside world.

Its a matter of a few submarine cables, which has been sorted as PCTL has aready signed a deal with Alcatel installing new submarine cable broadning its links to Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, Bangladesh, India, Srilanka, Pakistan, United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Italy, Tunisia, Algeria and France.

[risc]

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Genius enlightned us all to circuit switiching. You probabaly know practically all PSTN gateways owned by teleco's run on a core IP network (packet switching).

Fibre is good but VERY VERY expensive. It will only be deployed in a high population concentration like major cities or areas where a largish concentration of high earners live. The advantage of fibre is running all data services (TV, Phone, BB) over a single line. Can you see someone in a pind withought a TV, Computer paying money for this service?

LMAO @ Submarine laying cable from Pakistan to Pakistan. At least read what you copy paste.

[kingshah]

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@risc

Genius enlightned us all to circuit switiching. You probabaly know practically all PSTN gateways owned by teleco’s run on a core IP network (packet switching).

Fibre is good but VERY VERY expensive. It will only be deployed in a high population concentration like major cities or areas where a largish concentration of high earners live. The advantage of fibre is running all data services (TV, Phone, BB) over a single line. Can you see someone in a pind withought a TV, Computer paying money for this service?

LMAO @ Submarine laying cable from Pakistan to Pakistan. At least read what you copy paste.

NO I don’t but I’m adding my two penny’s worth. Although gateway switches within Telco I’m involved with, yes. BTW, Gateway switches are not within the Core network, rather edge. Don’t take an genius to figure that out. Unless you are confused with the old term local exchanges. Even they are not within the core IP network.

Fibre is a great investment and for your info not too expensive now days. NOt necessarily TV but video conferencing, paid entertainment etccc…BTW were you not the one talking about efficiency earlier.

I did read it and yeah it did come from teh official site, but since you you know all about gateway switches and you know about redundancies - I don’t need to tell you why would you need S cables within major nodes in Pakistan.

[risc]

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point I wa smaking is who is going to pay for the cost of installing fibre to every home when their wont be a return of investment. I cant see the PK gov installing it so it's a commercial program. Final line is whether it will mae any money and outside dense population it's a No No. It will only work in areas where households are willing to pay in addition to other bills for a TV package, phone line and take up of BB. As I pointed out earlier most pinds dont have a computer, nor do most people have a television. Takeup of telephone lines is not mature either. All suggesting not a NEED.

[adeel_bm]

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In other cases, you can also visit http://www.pta.gov.pk for existing services provided by PTA!

Regards,
Adeel.

[Mano85]

Re: Broadband in Pakistan?

Major Call Centers in Pakistan operate directly through PTCL or major ISPs like Cybernet, Supernet, etc. Their link bandwidth ranges from 256k to 2MB at max.