Britons more suspicious of Muslims than Europeans or Americans

Hmmm, I wonder why…:halo:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070820/wl_uk_afp/britainuseuropereligionislam;_ylt=AtNl4Dukd53oIWZ9drE8JNlvaA8F

LONDON (AFP) - Britons view Muslims with more suspicion than their American or European counterparts, according to a poll published in the Financial Times on Monday.

According to the Harris Interactive survey, only about 59 percent of Britons believed that it was possible to be both a Muslim and a British citizen, compared to more than 70 percent of Spanish and French voters.

Some 52 percent of British respondents also said that they expected a “major terrorist attack” in their country within the next 12 months, the highest proportion of any of the countries surveyed – Britain, France, Germany, Spain, Italy and the United States.

By contrast, 32 percent of Spanish voters said they thought that was the case, compared to 30 percent of Americans, and between 15 and 18 percent in France, Germany and Italy.

About 46 percent of British respondents said that Muslims had too much political power, compared to about a third of Italians and Germans, less than a quarter of Spaniards, and a fifth of Americans.

The French were the most enthusiastic when asked whether they saw Muslims as suitable marriage partners for their children, and a large majority also do not see Muslims as a threat.

In the United States, just 21 percent of respondents saw Muslims as a threat, though some 40 percent said they would oppose their children marrying Muslims.

In Spain, fewer than a quarter saw Muslims as a threat, while just a fifth said they would oppose Muslims marrying their children.

Harris Interactive questioned a total of 6,398 people in the six countries between August 1 and 13 for the survey.

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**Britons more suspicious of Muslims than Europeans or Americans **

I wonder why?:halo:

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6K ppl in 6 countries, so on avg 1k ppl/country
nice sample

now as far as muslims having political power, they are correct that muslims have much more political power in UK than in US or other european nations. ppl have been mayors, MPs and even in house of lords. Some may see it is 'too much' power just like some ppl have issues with our judaic brothers having 'too much' power in US.

US and Uk difference is understandable,

first of all the mix of population is different\
US has been a more immigrant based country
until recently muslims were kinda invisible in US and still are for the most part

You know start demanding for Ed off just like some schools have rosh hashana off,
start making you rpresence felt rather than being on the defensive and saying oh no we are not terrorists, we are nice ppl like yourself - which is true but does not impact anyone.

Check controversies about building and location of mosques in US and you will see a diff perspective.

so while I agree that there are probably more biased views in UK, because of the mix of immigrants, ppl and history and attitudes, and the relative power or presence of muslims. I think that the survey is looking at too small of a sample to really be conclusive.

as far as other european countries go, talk is cheap... how involved are muslims in govt there, or media or industry compared to UK?

sure someone in France or germany or Italy may make politically correct remarks, but proof is in the pudding. How well have mulsim immigrants done in Italy for example, where is the glass ceiling.

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muslims have only themselves to blame 4 this

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as a mulsim living in teh west i was actually quite hurt by wht he said, i've always kept my religion to myself never shoved it in2 any1's face, that guy has tarred every1 with the same brush, but tbh his feelings are worryingly shared by many others in the west

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suspicion is a symptom of racism. theres two different types of racism effecting muslim communities in the west at present, colour racism and religious intolerence championed by atheists. colour racism has been largely defeated and is on the decline. the european dilema at the moment is more about which path to take politicaly. the choices are of religious inclusion or exclusion. the path of imposed atheism or path of religious tolerence.

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who gives a rats ass what a dinosaur has to think, he refuses to change and wants to cling to his crumpets and tea lifestyle thinking that is the best thing in the world, Sorry seen too many of these cavemen who expect others to assimilate but have little motivation to adapt themselves to a changing world.
I have no patience for them and when I run into people like them I tell it like it is. Even if it is joking around I think I noted here earlier that a pal of mine joked that with all the Pakistanis in UK its like a reverse colonization and thus the east india company and british raj has now been equalized. I responded that as long as asians were able to blow up entire streets and neighbourhoods with cannons and we could overthrow the queen, and put heads of dissenters on poles at entrances to cities and areas.. then it would defintely would be equal, until then they should shut the hell up and live with the blame of colonization and what the world today would call severe human rights violations.

so my response to this endangered sppecies of dinosaur, grow up, free your mind. I firmly say Rule Brittania...but the Briattania is not the same as old fogies think of when the start reminiscing about teh way things were half a century ago.

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That's the point. The divisions are deepening on both sides I'm afraid.

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ya but its his world thats changing

similarly, if millions of africans started pouring into Pakistan practising their religion of human sacrifice and so forth, how would pakistanis react?

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colonialism and capitalism has done enough to forestall the indigenous growth and development for generations in the world regions where ever these two went. the amalgamation of religious or societal scapegoats are aired in the ears of people on the opposite sides of the continents simply to create more rifts.
anti Muslim sentiment will not go away whilst each and every Muslim does not begin to decide when to assert facts and set the records straight. discussion spurs in only the well settled educated and professional communities of Muslims in Britain and other westerns countries will make the natives see for themselves that they are misinformed about Muslims as people and fellow citizens.
perhaps then things will change in the collaborative direction.
cheers!

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When British government has killed 700,00 innocents muslims of Iraq..in the name ..of imaginary WMD’s ..then Britan MUST ..have to face the music …

and if some youth do some acts…which they call..as terrorists acts..although..being killing innocents is not allowed in islam..even then..the its is just the response of the evil policies of British and West..over Iraq..Afghanistan..and Middle east…and they** MUST have to suffer it…**

just cowards..imams of masjids dont talk aboutr the evil policies of this country..as ther funds will be stopped by British government and they will be kicked out of England…similarly..babur and many others will besent to X ray camps..few have sentenced 7 or 9 years..who just raised the slogan in Glasgow that…British soldiers should be killed as Iraqis are killing…

I am not in favour of terrorsits attacks..but what Baghdad ..has become due to UK and US forces..a hell fire on the face of earth…then i fear…London ..and NY will not escape from the Divine’s Revenge..may Allah not do this…but Tit for Tat..is the basic priciple of this universe…

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=254500

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This guy is vehmently atheist… But he is equally disrespectful of all religions!
But he isnt racist, or bigoted I think… In another post he went to great length to point out that his beef is not with Muslims in general, but only those who try to impose their religous beliefs on others… And quite frankly, there are many on this forum including myself who would agree with him on that account.

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Hatred of minorities is not a recent phenomenon in Britain, the white Britons have hated minorities especially Pakis and Muslims way before Sept. 11 happened.

Xenophobic and paranoid people like that guy in the video are extremely common in this country and they're growing…

PS. He needs to invest in a good toothbrush.

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and they talk of freedom of speech. :rolleyes:

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^^

yes..they have very freedom of speech...

a man who shamelseely abuses prophet(pbuh) and his wives ..deserve Knighthood...

and a man who speaks about falsehood of Jewish Holocaust..faces police and judicial inquiry...

just as ..the X Ray Camps..have no judicial inquiry....lawyers..chrges..and basic prisoners rights...whiel UNO..Security COUncil..International Justice Courrts..Red Cross..and all Huamn Rights Organizations ..are doziing ..overGuantanamo....

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The killing of inncoent ppl in 1 place doesnt justify the killing of tother inncoent ppl in other place, The common person in the Uk did not want the war in iraq,
I am 4rm glasgow and ppl were quite understanding here and the majority opposed teh war in iraq. Targetting the innocent in these countries will make them want to support their government in carrying out further wars in teh cause of rooting out terrorism, even if they had previously opposed to such actions by their government.

Plus as far as revenge is concerned and u mention how they must pay well in islam time and time again the word mercy is mentioned, but so many muslims seems to have forgotten this :mad:

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sorry its not "his" world.

the sooner he, and you realize it the better off we all would be.

There is no difference between him, and ppl in pakistan who whine about the westernization/modernization/arabisation/indianization of the country.

if he wants to wear a powdered wig and frilly crap, that is up to him, the world changes, has changed, will change thorugh migration, through internal change.

the world will change, we can either leran to live in it, or we can be bitter and exclusionary, or be inclusive.

Now no one is tellign him to stop eating bangers and mash and shepherds pie, but he should have no issue if his neighbour is making chicken qorma, falefel or matzoball soup.

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sire man, just like he does not want others to impose their beliefs on him, others dont like him imposing his belief or lack thereof on others. while people like him would attack muslims by saying well their religion is an imposition on me, well how? is someone asking you to wear a burqa or grow a beard or go and pray at the mosque? no, people like him are content with church ceremonies at govt level and the existance of church of england, and the monarch being the head of teh church and all that, but then that gets calle doh its history and culture stuff not religion, which is an easy cop out.

He does not have to go for jummah, he does not have to pay zakat, he does not have to eat zabiha, he does not have to watch Geo, he does not have to do anything. I fail to see what his beef is. If he minds his own business and stops trying to impose his views on others, he would live a happier more content life even if teh houses around him belong to hari krishnays, bahai, ahmedi, rastafarian, or whoever.

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Good points Peer Sahib :k: