British woman dies during forced abortion in Pakistan

This is just sad. I hope those responsible for her death are put on trail and given exemplary punishment. :frowning:

British woman dies during forced abortion in Pakistan

http://www.stv.tv/content/news/headlines/display.html?id=opencms:/news/stv__news__Glasgow_woman_dies_during_f_20080129

STV news can reveal that a Glasgow woman died during a forced abortion in Pakistan. Twenty-two year-old Sobia Wali, from the Crookston area of the city was recently married and went back to Pakistan to attend a family funeral.

Sobia Wali was five months pregnant. The call centre worker married just after Christmas.

Last week Sobia returned to Pakistan to attend her grandmother’s funeral.

While there, her friends say she sent desperate texts to her husband asking for his help. Then later they heard from Pakistan that Sobia died from a virus while in Gudjhranwala near
Mohammed Sarwar
Lahore.

But it has emerged that she was apparently forced to have an abortion. She died during the procedure.

Sobia and her husband married on December 27. She loved her husband desperately, but there were only three witnesses at the wedding and it is understood that two of them had never even met the groom, who is also from Glasgow’s south side.

They married in secret because her family apparently did not approve of her husband, Usman Gulzar, and his family.

Strathclyde Police would only say they are investigating Sobia’s death, but it is understood that detectives are interviewing her friends and family.

Glasgow MP Mohammed Sarwar has experience of this kind of case, he was involved in having the killers of Glasgow teenager Kriss Donald returned to Scotland to face trial and negotiated the return to Pakistan of schoolgirl Molly Campbell.

Tomorrow he will speak to detectives in Glasgow and Foreign Office officials, as well as senior detectives in Pakistan. It is understood he will be pressing for Sobia’s body to be exhumed and undergo a post mortem.

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^^ sir jee, please don't start a thread on every day events. It doesn't make sense, the events like these happened in numberrs in every part of the world... Or maybe Musharraf did it too.

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Peace e33or

The fact that this happened and provided it is true makes it a disaster, even if it is on one person, because it is like it has happened to all of us, but if what you say is true that it happens "in numbers" then don't you think it is an issue deserved of this forum?

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mod move this to culture please.

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How can she be 5 months pregnant, when she just got married on December 27th??

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Because having nikkah doesn't suddenly open up the flood gates of ovulation.

Does it even matter?

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Ok, if you're kidnapped, tortured, and killed, we won't talk about it, or mourn it, because it happens so often.

You deserve the same considerations that you give others.

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In this case it might..I think this may be the reason the family was looking for an abortion.

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I think it belongs to General, not Politics (Pakistan Affairs).

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TERRIBLE.

This is all due to self-righteous jerks that have taken over Pakistani culture like vultures.

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^^ these idiots give us all a bad name and I have to spend 30 minutes at work explaining to my co-workers that Pakistanis are not like that

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errr, I belive it is more "cultural" thingie, its not because of "self-righteous jerks", "if you marry against our will, we will ...." thingie.

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^ Uh, i would think its less a “married against our will” and more of hte fact she was 5 months pregnant and married for a lil over a month?
But whatever it is… pretty sad and disgusting. This type of incidents just bad-naam pakistanis in Europe, nto to mention her family must’ve been pretty jahi and horrific to do this to her..:hinna:

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1st we don't know that.
2ndly instead of condemning this barbaric act you are trying to find justifications for it.

I hope those responsible for her death face the same fate.

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There's no excuse for such a thing, no matter how much they want to justify it.

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agree:k:

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Horrible , absolutely not...but that might be the reason the family wanted the abortion.

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Naa... I did not justify it...you presumed it. I only said that from this report it seems that she was 5 months preganant after 1 month of marriage.

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any updates on thsis story. did they end the investigation.

all i can say about this is that ok she married a guy she wanted to and was pregnant, why cudnt the family just accept this and set the kids up to move out of the area if they were so worried about their izzat, but they had to get her an abortion so that their izzat would remain in tact. who knows what their next step would be, getting her married off to someone else in pakistan.

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I am horrified at the comments in this thread.....

we have one person believing that it's okay to demand an abortion....
and when asked if he is justifying it he claims no......but infers that she was pregnant before marriage and that's why the abortion was demanded.

does that make it okay?

and another suggesting that they move the kids out of the area if they are worried about the izzat......

izzat? what value is there to friends and family that give you izzat based on such factors?