British-trained police in Iraq 'killed prisoners with drills' !

British-trained police operating in Basra have tortured at least two civilians to death with electric drills, The Independent on Sunday can reveal.

John Reid, the Secretary of State for Defence, admits that he knows of “alleged deaths in custody” and other “serious prisoner abuse” at al-Jamiyat police station, which was reopened by Britain after the war.

Militia-dominated police, who were recruited by Britain, are believed to have tortured at least two men to death in the station. Their bodies were later found with drill holes to their arms, legs and skulls.

The victims were suspected of collaborating with coalition forces, according to intelligence reports. Despite being pressed “very hard” by Britain, however, the Iraqi authorities in Basra are failing to even investigate incidents of torture and murder by police, ministers admit.

The disclosure drags Britain firmly into the growing scandal of officially condoned killings, torture and disappearances in Iraq. More than 170 starving and tortured prisoners were discovered last week in an Interior Ministry bunker in Baghdad.

American troops who uncovered the secret torture chamber are also said to have discovered mutilated corpses, several bearing drill marks.

Adam Price, the Plaid Cymru MP for Carmarthen East and Dinefwr, who uncovered the death at al-Jamiyat police station, called for an immediate UN investigation into police torture. “The Government keeps on saying that respect for human rights is a pre-condition of withdrawal. Well, it should be a pre-condition for UK soldiers to continue risking their lives in Iraq,” he said.

Critics claim the situation echoes American collaboration with military regimes in Latin America and south-east Asia during the Cold War, particularly in Vietnam, where US-trained paramilitaries were used to kill opponents of the South Vietnamese government.
British-trained police in Iraq ‘killed prisoners with drills’
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So the coward brits getting others to do their dirty work drilling holes in peoples skulls disgraceful typical actions of coward army who in Iraq to pick up the crumbs left behind of the other Global Terrorist organisation currently occupying Iraq, The United Snakes army!**

Re: British-trained police in Iraq 'killed prisoners with drills' !

So, you think that the Brits taught them how to use the drill?

Somehow I fail to believe that Iraqis need special training in creative and painful ways to kill each other...

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^^ no ofcourse not, British would never do such a thing. They only provided the drills.

Re: British-trained police in Iraq 'killed prisoners with drills' !

Yes, Muslims should only be trusted with dull implements and hand tools lest they kill one another.

Drills don't kill people, people kill people....

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Whose the occupying terrorist organisation in Iraq hmmm the amerikkans and the brits thiers your answer dummy!

Re: British-trained police in Iraq ‘killed prisoners with drills’ !

Do not run with scissors AK47! And if you need to build a house, you can use this butter knife!

Wasn’t there some story about British drills before? Wasn’t Nadia arguing that drills should be banned under the sanctions?

Here is the “drill” article:

The tactics of Saddam by Amnesty International…
15/08/2001

Amnesty International called on the Iraqi authorities to put an end to the systematic torture and ill-treatment of political prisoners and to introduce legislative and practical steps to improve the human rights situation in the country.

In a report published today – Iraq: Systematic torture of political prisoners – the organization paints a grim picture of routine torture, whereby horrendous physical and psychological suffering is inflicted upon political prisoners and detainees.

“Victims of torture in Iraq are subjected to a wide range of forms of torture, including the gouging out of eyes, severe beatings and electric shocks,” said Amnesty International, based on interviews with hundreds of torture victims in Iraq over the years. “Some victims have died as a result and many have been left with permanent physical and psychological damage.”

Other methods of torture include extinguishing of cigarettes on various parts of the body, extraction of finger nails and toenails and piercing of the hands with an electric drill. Some have been sexually abused and others have had objects, including broken bottles, forced into their anus. In addition to physical torture, detainees have been threatened with rape and subjected to mock executions.

Over the years many victims of torture have been Shia Muslims from Baghdad or from Southern Iraq. The fate of al-Shaikh Nazzar Kadhim al-Bahadli, a 29-year-old theology student from Saddam City, a district of Baghdad, is typical. He was arrested in 1999 and was tortured for long periods in the building of Saddam City Security Directorate. His wife, father and mother were reportedly brought to the building in August 1999 and were tortured in front of him to force him to confess to being one of those responsible for the April 1999 disturbances in Saddam City. He was said to have confessed in order to spare his relatives any further torture. They were released following his confession but he was sentenced to death later and executed at the beginning of 2001.

Torture is used against other political opponents and army and security officers suspected of dissidence or involvement in coup attempts. Amnesty International’s report also documents torture, ill-treatment and extra-judicial executions of women.

A 25-year-old woman known as “Um Haydar” was beheaded in the street without charge or trial at the end of December 2000 after her husband, who was suspected by the authorities of involvement in Islamist armed activities, fled the country. Um Haydar was taken from her house in al-Karrada district, in front of her children and mother-in-law, by men belonging to Fedaiyye Saddam. Two men held her by the arms and a third pulled her head from behind and beheaded her in front of the residents. The beheading was also witnessed by members of the ruling Ba’ath Party in the area. The security men took the body and the head in a plastic bag and took away the children and mother-in-law. Their fate remains unknown.

The report stresses that torture in Iraq is also practised through various judicial punishments, which were introduced in the mid-1990s ostensibly to stem the increase in the crime rate that the Government attributed to the impact of economic sanctions imposed on the country since 1990. These ‘judicial punishments,’ including amputation of hand and foot, branding of forehead and cutting off of the ears, used to be publicized by the Iraqi media. Such publicity became rarer since the end of 1996, following international condemnation of these punishments.

Amnesty International’s recommendations to the Iraqi authorities include renewed calls to ratify and implement fully in domestic law and practice the UN Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment; repeal all decrees imposing punishments amounting to torture; set up an independent body to undertake impartial investigations into all allegations of torture and bring to justice anyone responsible for serious violations; and put an end to all extra-judicial executions.

“The systematic torture and climate of fear that have prevailed in Iraq for so many years must be brought to an end,” Amnesty International said. “The continuing scale and severity of human suffering must not be allowed to continue.”

http://web.amnesty.org/802568F7005C…ighlight=2,iraq

In a thread titled:Suffering of Iraqis through Saddam… (which I have no idea how to link to)

Re: British-trained police in Iraq ‘killed prisoners with drills’ !

again who was the terrorist organisations supporting mr saddam insane same answer as before the Global terrorist organisations known as little britain and US terrorist state.

this is so easy come on at least make an effort to make it difficult to respond! the answer is always there slappin you in the face and you still don’t get it

:bukbuk: :rotfl:

Re: British-trained police in Iraq 'killed prisoners with drills' !

Ak47, please post something definative that shows that the US supported Saddam. There are numerous threads on this, and the best you can post is a picture of Rumsfeld. Specifically what do you believe the US shipped to Saddam that he used against his enemies.

Post something more than two lines and some smilies.

Power tools don't count.

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Russia? France? China? Or all the Muslim countries that did nothing to save the shia from Arab sunni oppression during the decades of Saddam’s rule?

It looks like drills, glass bottles cigarettes and pliers need to be banned. Systematic torture seems to the rule in Iraq.

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The yanks are thick as planks and now they coming on here denying they even knew saddam insane how pathetic!

whats next you gonna deny you nuked japan also!

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Thick as planks, dimwit, fool, dummy, idiot, racist, stupid...

If you don't have anything to contribute other than these constant personal insults, exlamation points and smilies, perhaps you should ask for a refund from your madrassah. It doesn't do too much to give your posts and credibility and you can use all of that you can.

Re: British-trained police in Iraq 'killed prisoners with drills' !

yes, ak47s' cut and paste and little two line diatribes are so educational.

Like fighting with the unarmed.

Re: British-trained police in Iraq ‘killed prisoners with drills’ !

While i unreservedly applaud your memory (my God it’s amazing! honestly), that particular discussion between us was regarding dual-use items prohibited under the embargo. My argument, if you remember, was something along the lines of ‘if the US is successfully preventing childrens’ shoelaces from entering the country, surely they can prevent something like a drill from entering the country’. That discussion between us was in reference to the British-made drills that were being used for torture (torture against Iraqis in the Saddam Hussein era, as opposed to torture against Iraqis in the post-Hussein era).

:flower1: Anyways - i am not in this discussion to begin with so i would appreciate individuals ahem not utilizing names of people who are not participating in a discussion :flower1: Muchas gracias! :flower1: :flower1:

Re: British-trained police in Iraq ‘killed prisoners with drills’ !

You call Kaleem a hypocrite but you are the biggest hypocrite and flip flop when it comes to Iraq war. Several times I have read your comments about Bush leading to this war on lies and deception while arguing with Kaleem but in some threads like this one you are justifying the war. You are such a phony that you don’t even know where you belong.

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Now where have you been young lady?!:hug:

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I don’t expect you to be able to keep up with adults discussing complex geopolitical issues, but kudos for trying. France and Russia’s support of Saddam, his *lack *of support from the US, and the general Muslim blindness to the plight of their bretheren in Iraq have nothing to do with Bush’s deception or mishandling of the war.

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You support this war even though according to yourself it was based on lies and deception. That’s why I called you a hypocrite.

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Not to mention the WMDs in Iraq. Hmm Lets see how Uncle Ohio defend this one.:smiley:

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Yea bring muslims into everything. Sick minds have sick intentions. Please try posting when you are not drunk with hate and lies and yes I thought american (not christians) fags were good at hand job but then I may be wrong

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He clearly cannot defend anything the best he has is to change the topic, truth is too much for him and his right wing compadres!