British Couple Shot Dead in 'Honour Killing' in Pakistan

**British couple gunned down in Pakistan in suspected honour killing after calling off marriage **

**A British couple who flew to Pakistan to settle a row over their daughter’s arranged marriage have been shot dead in a suspected ‘honour killing’. **

**The spurned groom is thought to have gunned down Gul Wazir and wife Bagum alongside their son who had also travelled to the remote Nowshera province, one of the areas devastated by the flooding in the country. **The son survived the attack and is in a stable condition in hospital. It was reported the gunman was a nephew of the couple, and was named locally as Rehman Wazir.

He had been due to marry his cousin until her parents decided against the arrangement. Local police said the Wazirs had travelled from their home in Alum Rock, Birmingham, to the village of Saleh Khan to explain their reasons to the groom. The aborted marriage was discussed in a grand jirga, or assembly of the village, which ended with an order for the Wazirs to pay the equivalent of £18,800 to their nephew in compensation. But although both parties agreed with the decision, two days later, Rehman Wazir allegedly shot his uncle and aunt at the house they were staying at. Police were last night searching for him.

**A family friend said: ‘Gul and his wife went to Pakistan to try to sort it out. It is a tragedy. They were honest, decent people.’ ‘The husband and wife had already promised their daughter to a man. When that arrangement ended he was not happy,’ the friend said. **

The killings happened on Monday, but details only emerged last night as the country is still in chaos after being hit by deadly floods.

Another of Mr and Mrs Wazir’s son’s, Umar, was organising a memorial for them at an Islamic centre in Bordesley Green, Birmingham yesterday. He said it was too early for his family to speak about the tragedy.
A spokeswoman for West Midlands Police confirmed the deaths. She said: 'We have been informed of the murder of two people from Birmingham in Pakistan. ‘The murder inquiry is being carried out by the authorities in Pakistan and we will support their investigation as and when required.’ The family friend described Mr Wazir as a peaceful man, who loved his family.

‘Gul was quiet, a humble, good man,’ his friend said. ‘He got on with his work, loved his children and was a regular at weddings and funerals and all community events. We all respected him, he will be sadly missed.’
The north western province of Pakistan where the couple were murdered is less than 100 miles from the Afghan border.

Honour killings have become a regular feature in the region, where a strict Islamic code is enforced.
‘This is not a one-off incident,’ the taxi driver’s friend revealed. 'Less than 18 months ago, a man from Bordesley Green was murdered in the same village for very similar reasons. His daughter did not want to marry a man who believed he was entitled to her. ‘It’s a very sad situation, it is hard to accept that this sort of killing still goes on. The parents often don’t have a say in Birmingham. If the daughter has been raised here and she doesn’t want to marry a man, she won’t be forced to do it. Back in Pakistan they still blame the parents if this happens. They don’t understand that the culture is different.’

Muslim Birmingham MP Khalid Mahmood said he was appalled at the double murder.

‘This is shocking news,’ he said. ‘If it is discovered that this couple were killed as a result of a feud over an arranged marriage then it’s truly disgraceful. This sort of thing should not be happening in this day and age. The area in question is in the north western province, where honour killings tend to happen quite regularly. These killings need to be clamped down on.’

The Foreign and Commonwealth Office said it could not reveal any further details.
‘We would not get involved unless the family concerned had approached us for consular assistance,’ a spokesman said.

Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1301264/British-couple-gunned-Pakistan-suspected-honour-killing.html#ixzz0wJsfFdin

Not sure how correct the ‘honour killing’ title is so put it in inverted commas, nevertheless what an awful story and the poor daughter as well as the rest of her family in the UK must be going thru hell :frowning:
There were also reports that another son was also threatened back in Birmingham.

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Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi rajioon.

They just had to say this about it:

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Honour killings have become a regular feature in the region, where a strict Islamic code is enforced.
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^Oh yeah, forgot to point out that bit.. u'd think they might have mentioned that honour killings are cultural rather than Islamic..

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How exactly is it honour killing ? They have some different definition of honour killing in West.

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Just the usual, some people still like to live in their tribal ways.

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I was thinking that.. I guess their definition is anyone in the family who is killed due to issues of 'honour' or reputation..

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Sounds more like a revenge killing to me. He wasn't dishonored in any way.

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Yup I dont see any dishonoring in it but Revenge. Dishonoring is like if the tribe or parents of that girl (or boy, although very rare) feel shame of the happening that their daughter or the girl of that tribe may have done.

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His ego was bruised cos the cousin didn't want him.. in that way I guess it could be 'honour' related (as in his was compromised - in his head)... sort of..

Am surprised the tribal council wanted her family to pay his 18k and they agreed, that is crazy..

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Well if you somehow want to link it with honor killing, then its your opinion.

I think they knew what it may end up in and so they may have thought better to pay that amount.

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**Sad :(

Inna Lilahi Wa Inna Ilayhi Raji'oon :(
**

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“The aborted marriage was discussed in a grand jirga, or assembly of the village, which ended with an order for the Wazirs to pay the equivalent of £18,800 to their nephew in compensation.”

The idea of even compensating the nephew seems ridiculous to me. Why do the parents “promise” the daughters off to some guy when she’s too young to understand the gravity of the deal/decision? And I think it’s the word “promise” here that might be used as justification of a compensation. Otherwise is there a need? Is it a gunnah to change your mind about a rishta? Are these grand jirgahs themselves issuing out solutions based upon Islamic principles/rules…OR…are they more based in culture? If that’s the case, then should the jirgahs be removed or at least be monitored to ensure that they’re complying with Islamic rules and regulations? I don’t know much about the jirgahs but if they are the governing bodies in these villages and if they’re ignorant/unethical in their rulings…then they could be among the root causes of the problem.

"Honour killings have become a regular feature in the region, where a strict Islamic code is enforced. "

**^See, that’s the thing. Why is the article even saying that a “strict Islamic code” is enforced in this region…when NOTHING about this tragic situation is Islamic at all. And who is the article written by? It’s like that writer him/herself has associated these atrocities with Islam…thus giving a negative impression of the religion…especially to those who know little about it in the first place.

**“This is not a one-off incident,’ the taxi driver’s friend revealed. 'Less than 18 months ago, a man from Bordesley Green was murdered in the same village for very similar reasons. His daughter did not want to marry a man who believed he was entitled to her. 'It’s a very sad situation, it is hard to accept that this sort of killing still goes on. The parents often don’t have a say in Birmingham. If the daughter has been raised here and she doesn’t want to marry a man, she won’t be forced to do it. Back in Pakistan they still blame the parents if this happens. They don’t understand that the culture is different.”

^I think the parents of the girls are partly to blame. Use your damn common sense. If the parents know or have an idea that they will be moving abroad…living either permanently or on a long-term basis abroad (Europe, N. America, etc)…then it’s common sense that if you’ll end up raising a family there…that both YOU/YOUR WIFE/YOUR CHILDREN…will end up assimilating to the culture in that environment. The parents themselves might feel a greater connection to the motherland as they grew up there…but if the kids are to be born and raised mostly in the West…then have the common sense to realize (before hand) that it would be highly foolish and unreasonable…and even FATAL…to promise your unborn daughter…or even mostly brought up in the west daughter…to some cousin. If the parents themselves (the fathers mostly) know that such promises…once carelessly made…are irreversible…and even dangerous…then why go about it in the first place? :smack:

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There can be other ways to show your respect for relationships....besides promising your child off in marriage.

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^Those sorts of families are really conservative, even years after moving to the UK.. in those places they nearly always get their kids married off to ppl back in Pakistan even nowadays.. Often the sons aren't that bothered because a lot of them have already had a few white girlfriends and quite like the idea of a stereotypical 'good girl' from back there who'll happily live in their parents house and look after them whilst they carry on living as tho they're single.. With the daughters some of them genuinely are happy to marry their cousins or other men in Pakistan whilst others obviously aren't but more often than not they do it anyway to keep the peace or because they don't have any other option.. In any case like u said it's crazy that the parents 'promise' their kids to people in another country without consulting them or asking their opinions, esp when it's clear the upbringing, culture etc. is so different.. It's funny, to me it's always seemed that the mothers push the 'back home' marriages more than the fathers.. I think they tend to be more concerned about their kids (esp the girls for some reason) 'losing their roots.' Common sense and practicality seem to completely disappear..

.. and those village jirgas are crazy, they're the idiots responsible for stuff like girls being gang-raped as punishment for things their brothers or fathers have done.. it's all tribal BS, not Islam..