How far will u go to escape it? Don’t u think ur kids will be exposed to it anyway at some point in their lives. This just doesn’t happen in Britain. U think it’s much better in the Middle East, if so, for how long…take a look at wot is happening in Pakistan, for example. I even remember times being much better when i was younger (in Britain), but with time yes things r getting bad…i don’t believe the answer is running away thinking that there is one “safe” place for ur kids…i believe it starts in the home…u teach ur kids rite from wrong, give them the best advice u can, educate them, tell them ur experiences and about ur culture and religion…the rest, u just have to let go…and face the fact, that the world is gona be a tough place for them…but be assured in the way u have raised them, that they will use their best judgement for the choices they make when they r out there. Just my two cents.
Yes I agree with some of you. I feel i turned out OK so I guess I would want to raise my children the same way my parents raised me. However My father sent me to Pakistan for 4 years, between the ages of 13 to 17. This is the age when a boy starts turning into a man and his concentrations wanders off, he might become involved in the wrong stuff etc etc, however the discipline of "the army public school, murree" where I attended helped me when I came back.
Its not about shielding your children, its about giving them the BEST conditions to be brought up in so they have more of a chance to grow up into good human beings without the threat of external factors.eg drugs, sex, and I could go on..
The only reply I have read is Mehnaz's and I completely agree with her.
As much as we would like to think that every country is different and certain nationalities are better than others due to where they live, I am afraid it is not true. This world is an evil evil place, full of evil evil people, you cannot protect your children from anyone no matter where you live. Don't you remember the first Harry Potter? The Dursley's hid in the most remote place they could find, yet still Hagrid found Harry. If something is going to happen then it will happen no matter where you are or what you do to prevent it. Some things in the UK are more evident than in other countries, but that does not mean that these things do not happen in these counties. It's quite naive to think that one place would be better then another when it comes to escaping "evil" and protecting yourself and your family.
I think the only type of protection you can give your children is education. Teach them right and wrong, invest time and effort with understanding in their learning of life. Instill a set of morals and values you feel they will need in order to suceed or get by in life. Every home is different. You cannot possible control every aspect of their lives yet you can try and ensure they learn what you feel they need in order to think and do better for themselves.
I have not read what I have wrote as it is too long, so pardon the grammar and spelling please. Thanks.
I should actually point out that Hagrid was not the evil one and in no way whatsoever does Harry need protecting from Hagrid. He's like a modern day BFG. Anyway, the point is the same, one cannot hide from evil.
It's a good idea to move to a Muslim country pretty quick if you want your kids brought up there otherwise it'll be hard for them to pick up the culture and they will feel out of place and disorientated.
I myself would like to move to Pakistan, a lot of guys my age would be freaked out by the idea but I'd enjoy it because from a very young age my parents told me about the land they were born and grew up in, their childhood stories and adventures and frequently took me on trips to Pakistan to visit the grandparents and so naturally I have developed a strong bond with that place and I could live their for the rest of my life as comfortably as a FOB but not all people are like that, a lot of the Pakistanis born here don't have that soft spot for all things Pakistani, most of them didn't even know there is a country called Pakistan untill they were 10-13.
my 2 cents on this(not meant to diss anyones opinion)
look, no matter how much anyone feels that moving to a muslim country is gonna help them raise their children in a good atmosphere..it aint gonna happen. the reality of life is that the number of evils that you'll probably have to face in a muslim country are gonna be much more multiplied that what you face in some place like UK or the US. the main problem i see with most immigrants living in these countries(us/uk) is the aversion to mix freely with the natives. unless this inter-mingling happens more openly, one will always feel secluded or ignored or out of place. for instance in england, you have all these pockets where people of desi ethnicity live(esp. paki and bangla) they dont seem to wanna mix freely enough with the others for some reason. unless you start lettin go of some of the stuff that your community "clerics" tell you about "preserving" your "culture" one will always have feelings of alienation and the "them" V/s "us" mentality. this is what leads to this whole thought process of moving to the middle east and all that,IMO. i personally have lived in the middle east(although for a short time) as well as in england and US and believe me the greatest power you have of living in the west is freedom. a lot of hardliners might say that in the middle east too you will find freedom but its more religion oreiented. and THAT my dears bro's and sis' is one of the biggest lies that is passing around. take my word...its not true!
coming to the question of vulgarity and moral degradation in the UK, it'd like to put it this way.
society as a whole is changing at a very fast pace and the education(or awareness) or ability to cope with it unfortunately hasnt moved along at quite the same pace. this is why we feel that the society is degrading.
the society is not degrading, it is CHANGING.
sooner rather than later, one needs to accept this fact of life and begin to devise methods to educate the young ones as to how exactly to cope with this changing reality and still have a normal growing up or "parvarish" . the secret does not lie in immersing yourself in spirituality or religion(though thats not a bad thing by any means), it is in opening up and being more accepting of different kinds of people in society.
another reason for this feeling of moving to some other country(like middle east) to have a more morally "correct" life is out of the oldest of human emotions : F-E-A-R.
the fear that somehow this "epidemic" of vulgarity or immorality might infect someone of your own community or family. for all of those people ,let me say one thing : "whatever you focus on(postively or negatively) will become part of you and whatever you ignore will cease to affect you" in other words, what you focus on thrives and what you ignore dies!
if by immorality you mean homosexuality then worry not. because homosexuality is NOT a trend or a fashion...its a biological characteristic. it has existed since man made his first steps on earth and probably will be there till the end. there needn't be any fear of "catching" the epidemic cos i repeat- ITS A BIOLOGICAL CHARACTERISTIC, nothing more, nothing less.
as far as other things such as teenage sex or drugs that might be causing some to fret, all you can do about it is to give your kids a good education, make them have a great childhood, develop their talents and have a good open family atmosphere. innumerous studies have stated this fact about drugs and teenage sex: it seems to be prevelant mainly in communities where the child has not had a proper upbringing in terms utilization of his/her time and family atmosphere.
i hope my post made sense to the readers, thanks :)
How on Earth she snuck Harry potter in here I dont know!