Brian Lara's Attitude on Dhoni's Incident

Iconoclast · June 6, 2006, 9:30pm

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All respect i had for Lara all thru his career, he lost it. As$ hole.

truelies · June 6, 2006, 9:34pm

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Wow thats a very RICH hole :D

mYsTeRiOuS_gUy · June 6, 2006, 10:03pm

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I don't know why but i am reluctant to bad mouth Lara :( But he must be punished for his stupidness, he should have controlled his emotions.

truelies · June 6, 2006, 10:06pm

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how do you control your ekotions?

kambakht · June 6, 2006, 10:30pm

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For those who hadn’t seen Lara’s expression when Dave Mohammed was being smacked all over the park!

http://cricketvideosuncut.blogspot.com/2006/06/1st-test-ind-wi-dhoni-smacks-mohammed.html

MALIK_786 · June 6, 2006, 11:38pm

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Wow, some of those shots from Dhoni were massive. But I still think the guy is a flat track bully.

acrobi123 · June 7, 2006, 2:11am

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I dont think so Lara should be hold accountable, once the decision is given (3rd Umpire/ or umpires on the green) batsman with all the respect or disagreement should leave the field!!!

if Lara should be banned for 3 games then Ponting and half of the Aussies team should be banned for 10 games each; the attitude and little/next to none respect they showed to the Umpires on their tour to Bangladesh.

Simply put I hold Dhoni accountable for making a elephant out of an ant.

Umer579 · June 7, 2006, 3:13am

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Dhobi jee,

I agree with you 110% that some kind of reprimand should be done by Lara. Also, the match referee should definitely place Lara under one test or 2 ODI's ban. It doesn't matter who the umpire was and where he is from. What matters is how was he treated by the players. As far as Lara's status is concerned, well he's no different than any other player in Cricketing circuit.
Umer

dhobi_bhai · June 7, 2006, 3:15am

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Please take a moment and watch this video, also accounted in post #18.

The account of what went down (kindly correct if my assessment is wrong):

After the third umpire replays proved inconclusive, the on-field umpires (Asad Rauf, to be specific) signaled Dhoni to resume his innings, as the dressing room was then shown immediately with Dhoni’s team-mates happy over the fact that the play has finally went under-way. The latter was getting ready to occupy the batting crease, but all of a sudden, Lara was then shown with half of his gang arguing with Rauf over the legality of the decision (HIS decision), the same decision, which has been written in the rulebooks as final and deemed as the ultimate verdict, regardless of whether it is right or wrong. The next several minutes Lara was displayed on the giant screen talking to Dhoni for a full set of more than ten seconds, and in that period of time within a quarter of a minute, the latter beared the critical patience and vital endurance as Lara has the audacity to tell Dhoni to leave the field while agreeing on his terms in front of Asad Rauf. How in the world Lara put himself in umpire’s position, I will never understand.

Dhoni is in no way accountable of Lara’s misconduct and childish and irresponsible behavior in the first place. Had Ricky Ponting or Inzamam done the same thing, I would have hanged them both publicly for this juvenile and self-indulgent show of flaunt. This is in no way, shape or form an appropriate way to determine a true sportsman spirit of the game, and rather this resembles an injection full of lethal venom being inserted in a person’s body slowly and repeatedly until the life is sucked out of that individual.

Double-standards continue, to say the least. You know as well as I do, had the likes of Afridi been in that same arrangement, he would have faced an immediate death penalty with severe repercussions after. Regardless of whether the player is Indian, Pakistani or from any other origin, rules are rules and when you put yourself in a position where you have an option to choose between doing the right thing while eliminating the wrongful deed and you chose to go with the latter, you deserve to earn a heavy match fine as well as the match ban.

Those who wrote the rulebook in the first place will tell you the exact same thing as above. However, those who tend to “follow” it (for the lack of a better term) will tell you otherwise. It is up to you to come to the right conclusion.

Afridi786 · June 7, 2006, 3:18am

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The way I see is that the fielder claimed the catch, the replays couldn't prove otherwise, you have to take fielders word in those situations. I think Lara had a right to be a little upset.

Umer579 · June 7, 2006, 3:20am

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Dhobi jee^^

Excellently articulated comments. Also, thanks for providing the link to the video for anyone to clarify what exactly happened.

I'm also baffled as why was Dhoni not given a "yes" or "no" decision by the 3rd umpire? Did Lara forget that he got services of 2 umpires on the field or what happened?

Umer

Sohaib · June 7, 2006, 7:01am

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Although Lara had the right to be upset but he didnt have to go and protest in the way he did.

I also blame third umpire for taking ridiculously long in deciding. Dude, if you aint sure, press the green button and get over it. But no, he had to wait like 15 minutes and still unsure. What a loser!

Its hard for us pakistanis not to feel aggrieved when Ponting and lara get away with such offences and our players are punished for least offensive acts.

dhobi_bhai · June 7, 2006, 12:32pm

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:k::k:

fair_balance · June 7, 2006, 2:55pm

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When Adults are talking , kids shouldnot interfere. Go to your room and play game at disney.com

Umer579 · June 7, 2006, 7:18pm

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Afridi jee,

If this sets a precedent for future games that fielders word be taken in an inconclusive decision, then it would be a disastor for sportsman spirit and waste of money on technology. :(

On a side note, this was a unique incident but this should be set as a precedent for any game of Cricket. That's why we have 2 umpires on the field and what Lara did was unacceptable. Had this been done by Inzi or Dravid, the match referee would have by now def. placed a ban of match or two on the player. So things should be same for everyone regardless of what status they have in Cricket.
Umer

cricket4life · June 7, 2006, 7:32pm

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And now Sehwag gets fined for excessive appealing.. although I think it was because he did not turn to the umpire when appealing..

MUMBAI (Reuters) - India's Virender Sehwag has been fined 20 per cent of his match fee for excessive appealing during the drawn first test against West Indies which ended in Antigua on Tuesday.

Umer579 · June 7, 2006, 7:35pm

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Cricket4life,

Thanks for providing the news of Sehwag's fine. Infact, it's been a typical Indian team attitude of appealing and you see it quite often a player being fined for excessive appealing.

Umer

Afridi786 · June 7, 2006, 7:50pm

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hello, this "kid" knows more about the rules then you guys, who in here has played competitive cricket? When the umpire can't tell if the catch was taken or not, he refers to the fielder and takes his word for it. They r the icc rules also.

Ponting did something like this against bangladesh, and now they r trying to make a new rule to accomodate him.

cricket4life · June 7, 2006, 8:31pm

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This not an "indian" attitude.. all teams do it. in fact, the aussies do it but they have turned it into an art, so it's not so obvious.

homer_j_simpson · June 7, 2006, 9:38pm

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Sehwag fined but Lara let off. I don’t think that this is fair

Sehwag fined for excessive appealing

Cricinfo staff

June 7, 2006

Virender Sehwag has been fined 20% of his match fee for excessive appealing during the tense final stages of the drawn first Test between India and West Indies in Antigua.

Sehwag was found to have breached section 1.5 of the ICC Code which relates to “the practice of celebrating a dismissal before the decision has been given”. He removed Dwayne Bravo and Denesh Ramdin on the final day as West Indies hung on by one-wicket to save the match.

All level one breaches carry a minimum penalty of an official reprimand and a maximum penalty of 50% of a player’s match fee. The charge was brought by the umpires Asad Rauf, Simon Taufel and Billy Doctrove.

Jeff Crowe, the match referee, reached his conclusion after a hearing attended by Sehwag, the Indian coach Greg Chappell and the umpires following the conclusion of the Test.