Re: Breaking News....Shoaib Malik Gets Pakistan Captaincy according to "The Nation"
The only way for the Captaincy to be effective is if the players respect the Captain and do what the Captain tells them but also the Captain should open to taking suggestions from the players.
Having a divisive locker room will only cause a lack of strategy to emerge and the Captain rewarding people who support his decisions crucial positions.
All of these favoritism needs to be ironed out.
Re: Breaking News....Shoaib Malik Gets Pakistan Captaincy according to "The Nation"
Malik as a captain??
Not a wise decision for future of a young player....the guy has just got his place in the team.
It might add extra pressure on his batting...putting his batting form in a permanent slump.....he eventually might become another non-playing captain like Vaughan...
I still recommend bowlers like Shoaib Akhtar as Captain....you have nothing to loose in batting dept. if you make an aggressive bowler as Captain.
In majority cases from sub-continent, Capataincy has affected the batting.
Re: Breaking News....Shoaib Malik Gets Pakistan Captaincy according to "The Nation"
The Pakistan Cricket Board has decided to hand over the captaincy of the national team to all-rounder Shoaib Malik, The Nation learnt on Saturday. ** All eyes were on Younis as next skipper after Inzamam-ul-Haq resigned. However, Younis Khan refused to take up the captaincy. However, sources inside the PCB disclosed that the PCB chairman, all of its directors and chief operating officers came round to agreeing on Shoaib Malik as the captain of the team. Although the decision has been made but its **formal announcement would come in a couple of days. The PCB is likely to name it's captain on long term basis instead of series to series basis. It seems for the moment that the PCB has sorted out the captaincy problem but it has yet to address the grouping problem in the wake of a number of aspirants and their supporters in the playing eleven. Some of the seniors that include Muhammad Yousuf, Abdul Razzak, Shoaib Akhtar have also shown their desire to lead the team while Salman Butt was also one of the players taken as one of the candidate for the job. Yousuf was reported by a newswire agency as saying that if he was offered, he was ready to take the captaincy. "I do not feel any pressure and I feel eligible more than anybody after my recent performance," said he. "In this crisis situation I think I would be the right choice to lead the team," he added. Similar views were expressed by all-rounder Abdul Razzak. "I and ready to take the captaincy and would prove to be one of the best," said he. Shoaib Akhtar was on a number of occasion seen challenging the captaincy of Inzamam-ul-Haq. PCB chairman said that various names were considered. The chairman also had meetings with Mohammad Asif, Mohammad Yousuf, Shoaib Malik and others. But he recently said that the new captain would be a senior player and on that count Salman was to miss out. Besides, he was out of the team and had yet to confirm his place as a solid opener. And in seniority Yousuf was the top most but his excessive inclination towards religion and questions over his fitness made the PCB look for other options. In Shoaib Akhtar and Shahid Afridi's case, the fitness of the former and the slogging style of the latter stammered their chances, leaving Malik alone in the race for captaincy. The PCB chairman said that the PCB's first priority was the appointment of captain on long-term basis followed by the announcement of the 30 probable players and the selection committee. Ashraf said that series against Sri Lanka to be played in Duabi in May would not be ruled out whereas Pakistan team will tour England in July to play two One-day Internationals. An official of the board said that Malik fulfils the criterion set for the captain. But in the recent years Malik has been nursing his elbow injury and has also been among the suspect bowler. "He is fit, plays for the team and has with his form ensured place in the team," said an official of the board.
Shoaib Malik is a good choice. He is a team player, technically sound player, and good leader.
Step 2:
Keep Asif and Kaneria in the team and get all other new folks from under 19....
Here are the five I'll keep from present team (no politics, no grouping, young guys, only good team players):
1) Shoaib Malik
2) Danish Kaneria
3) Hasan Raza
4) Imran Nazir
5) Mohammed Asif
Step three:
Get rid of all the old corrupted wagons (players) including:
Younis Khan (bad performance),
Mohammed Yousuf (mentally retarded fanatic not concentrating on cricket)
Shahid Afridi (mentally retarded -- temper issues)
Abdul Razzak (Inzamam gropu supporter)
Shoaib Akhtar (better off acting in Indian movies--barham baaz)
Mohammed Hafeez(not reliable)
Kamran Akmal (not a good keeper or reliable batsmen...we need keeper like Rashid Latif)
Re: Breaking News....Shoaib Malik Gets Pakistan Captaincy according to "The Nation"
If true a very good choice. let's hope he can deliver.
Re: Breaking News…Shoaib Malik Gets Pakistan Captaincy according to “The Nation”
“Dawn” saying the same thing
http://www.dawn.com/2007/04/15/spt8.htm
Shoaib Malik in line for Pakistan captaincy
LAHORE, April 14: Dashing all-rounder Shoaib Malik is being tipped as the new Pakistan captain amid reports that Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) is determined to get rid of ageing seniors in a bid to root out player-power.
Highly-placed sources in the board told Dawn that after Younis Khan’s refusal to lead Pakistan this week, Shoaib Malik has emerged as top candidate for the challenging job.
Sources said the PCB chief also considered the option of maverick pacer Shoaib Akhtar for leading the team but his chequered career record and unpredictable attitude has outweighed his talent for the coveted position.
Young Shoaib Malik made headlines a couple of years back while leading the Sialkot Stallions when he deliberately threw a national Twenty20 match to Karachi Dolphins. He later admitted and apologized for his action which he said was done to prevent the Lahore from entering the final through some absurd rule. His leadership qualities, however, have been at the forefront in domestic competitions and his fast-growing reputation as the new man-of-crisis for Pakistan has only strengthened his position.
As far as new coach of the team is concerned, though Aaqib Javed had offered his services, the Pakistan Academy team’s performance under his coaching in the ongoing tour of Bangladesh does not speak well for his case, sources said.
Meanwhile, a seven-hour meeting held at the PCB offices on Saturday.
PCB chairman Dr Nasim Ashraf headed the meeting with Chief Operating Officer Shafqat Naghmi, special advisor to chairman Saleem Altaf and Director Cricket Operations Zakir Khan in attendance.
Though the meeting failed to take any decisions about the restructing of the PCB it discussed various option to improve the working of the board.
Re: Breaking News....Shoaib Malik Gets Pakistan Captaincy according to "The Nation"
Shoaib Malik for Captaincy? Biggest mistake of PCB. Three reasons:
Its like appointing Azharuddin or Salim Malik both proclaimed match fixers. Malik has thrown a domestic 20/20 match while leading Sialkot, what guarantee do we have he will not do it again? And, every time Pakistan loses there will be questions asked whether the match was fixed?
Malik has some serious technique issues that need to be sorted.
His selection in test cricket is not guaranteed, then how can he be captain?
Its sad day for Pak cricket that our cricketing genius has reached such a low point that we have people like Malik, Yusuf, Afridi as leading contenders for the captains job. Pakistan has to thinik out of the box, find a player who has demonstrated leadership skills in domestic circuit and has a clean track record.
Afridi, Malik, Yusuf are refressive steps and signal no change, no accountability and no remorse on a humiliating defeat in WC07. Every member of that squad should right now try to prove their place in the national squad, vying or lobbying for captaincy should be an automatic disqualification.
Re: Breaking News....Shoaib Malik Gets Pakistan Captaincy according to "The Nation"
And, every time Pakistan loses there will be questions asked whether the match was fixed? .
You mean to say that doesnt happen already everytime pakistan lose?
Re: Breaking News....Shoaib Malik Gets Pakistan Captaincy according to "The Nation"
I think Shoaib Malik will make a good captain. He is one of the players who really blossomed under Woolmer and Inzi. Altho I will still wait for formal announcement to be made.
Re: Breaking News....Shoaib Malik Gets Pakistan Captaincy according to "The Nation"
It is nothing like appointing Azhar or Salim Malik. The charges on them was throwing matches for money, which mind you they never admitted. Shoaib Malik's case in doemstic cricket was very different where he threw away the game to knock another team out plus the fact that he did not hide what he was doing and admitted it in the press conference right after match and apologized for doing it in the "heat of the moment". That is when many people thought that he had seriously damaged his chances of ever leading Pakistan although many thought he had the ability to lead. As far as his technical flaws go I would agree with those. He was a bowler who rarley bowls anymore and has concentrated on his batting and truth be told has improved a lot over the years. He is a hard working cricketer but I dont think he warrants an automatic place in the test side. He is a good fielder, a handy bowler and a decent batsman which works in ODI's just fine but in tests I think we need specialists. Razzaq normally fills the spot of the all rounder and I dont think Malik is as good an allrounder as Razzaq. Anyway I think for ODI's atleast he is a good choice but maybe we need to look for a different captain for tests.
Re: Breaking News....Shoaib Malik Gets Pakistan Captaincy according to "The Nation"
You mean to say that doesnt happen already everytime pakistan lose?
No. It only happens when the odds are 95-1 and we lose against Sunday players, other than that how many times does match fixing ever come up, not many.
Re: Breaking News....Shoaib Malik Gets Pakistan Captaincy according to "The Nation"
It is nothing like appointing Azhar or Salim Malik. The charges on them was throwing matches for money, which mind you they never admitted. Shoaib Malik's case in doemstic cricket was very different where he threw away the game to knock another team out plus the fact that he did not hide what he was doing and admitted it in the press conference right after match and apologized for doing it in the "heat of the moment". That is when many people thought that he had seriously damaged his chances of ever leading Pakistan although many thought he had the ability to lead. As far as his technical flaws go I would agree with those. He was a bowler who rarley bowls anymore and has concentrated on his batting and truth be told has improved a lot over the years. He is a hard working cricketer but I dont think he warrants an automatic place in the test side. He is a good fielder, a handy bowler and a decent batsman which works in ODI's just fine but in tests I think we need specialists. Razzaq normally fills the spot of the all rounder and I dont think Malik is as good an allrounder as Razzaq. Anyway I think for ODI's atleast he is a good choice but maybe we need to look for a different captain for tests.
That is correct, Malik did not throw the match for money and we have HIS word for that. The point is, this player has demonstrated the ability to violate basic rules of ethic what prevents it from happening again? Another heat of the moment? We can ill afford such hot headedness in our camp, we already have a few hot potatoes (Afridi, Akhter) in the squad who need constant counselling and damage control.
Re: Breaking News…Shoaib Malik Gets Pakistan Captaincy according to “The Nation”
Yesterdays reports from Jang. All tied to this. Ashraf was being reported to meet Malik and MoYo, And then later to meet Actor. This would signal that he was getting input and a feel for how the other two “senior” players would react with Malik at the helm. I am guessing Actor would jsut rejoice at his regain of a spot in the side with a decent contract and fitness level. Where as MoYo will be told plain and simple" Here is our choice. You are a valuable player but you need to play under this Captain and perform."
They could still pull a fast one and appoint Butt if they see that their will be major chaos in the team. PCB would virtually have to drop all the “trouble” makers, whether it is Afridi, Razzak or any other.
Re: Breaking News....Shoaib Malik Gets Pakistan Captaincy according to "The Nation"
Why I think that Shoaib Malik is not the best choice, as I believe that he does not even deserve a place in the team on merit alone. Nevertheless, if he gets selected Captain in a country where nepotism, Shafarish and personal like/dislike matters more then merit, good luck to him.
I am not bias neither I have favourites. I also trust figures when it comes to merit. Figures can tell everything about a player and most of the time that is what matters most. Compare the figures with complementary cricketers and one can found out how good a particular player was/is. No arguments no opinion, keep the figures in front and all related to cricket becomes as obvious as writing on the wall.
If team needs someone that controls the team regardless of personal performance, then why have cricketer as Captain? That could be done by anyone with strong personality and backing of authority. If that was the case, Shaikh Rashid could do better job as Captain than any cricketer (I mentioned Shaikh Rashid just as an example).
Thus, importance is that Captain justifies his inclusion in the team on merit and can control the team by earning respect due to his performance. Captain because of nepotism, Safarish, like/dislike may make someone in management happy, but that Captain could not earn the respect of players neither deserve to be Captain.
How a person can deserve his place guaranteed in the ream? That’s taking into account good player’s performance amongst top teams. To me only players that fall in below category should have guaranteed place in the team.
Batsman: Proven past record with over 2000 test runs and test batting average above 40. Recent performance over last 10 innings should be such that average overall average stays above 40 and recent average did not fell below 35 (bad patch but saved from past performance as overall average is still above 40).
Bowler: Proven past record with over 100 test wickets on average of below 25 runs per wicket and at around 4 wks per match. Recent performance over last 10 innings should be such that they took on average 1 wkts per inning at an average below 30 (bad patch but saved from past performance as overall average is still below 25 and they have taken on average of around 4 wkt per match).
**All-rounder: **They should justify their inclusion in the team either as batsman or bowler (fulfil one of the above criteria, of being Batsman or Bowler). Well, if they cannot, they could not justify their place in the team, but may get included if they are lacking behind the criteria by a narrow margin. For instance, have overall Batting average of over 35 and bowling average of under 30, even when they are going under bad patch, as in reality they should qualify using one of the above criteria of Batsman or Bowler.
Else, their place should not be considered as guaranteed in the team. If country has no player to replace them, they play else they go.
Wicket Keeper: should have test batting average of over 40. But if country does not have such wicket keeper in the country, then team may select the best without any guaranteed place.
To me, best team composition would be a team made up of 6 specialist batsmen (some may bowl to fill time), a good batsman wicketkeeper (having average over 40 and have safe hand), and 4 specialist bowlers (that can bat a bit).
If one have good all rounder batsman (player with average above 40) would be an added advantage at anywhere between No1 to No 7 in batting line up.
If a team has good all rounder bowler (player with bowling average of below 25) would be major advantage at No 8 in batting line up.
Here are names of some world class all-rounder that justified their place in the team on merit. Just look at the reason of their certainty for their place in the team. List is a bit unreal, as a player performance cannot be measured according to one yard stick, as with different era, value of statistical measurement also changes (according to performance of compatriot players), nevertheless, list shows some reality of measuring yard stick, and how it should works. Bold shows the reason of their secure place in the team.
A Greg: Batting average 40 bowling average 32
Richard Hadlee: Batting average 27 bowling average 22
Imran Khan: Batting average 37 bowling average 22
J Kallis: Batting average 55 bowling average 31
M Marshal: Batting average 18 bowling average 20
K Miller: Batting average 36 bowling average 22
Pollock: Batting average 32 bowling average 23
G Sobers: Batting average 57 **bowling average 34
Wasim Akram: Batting average 22 **bowling average 23
Sangakkara: Batting average 50.64 (12 hundreds and 22 fifties in 107 innings. 146 catches and 20 stumping)
Gilcrist: Batting average 48.66 (17 hundreds and 24 fifties in 129 innings. 344 catches and 37 stumping)
Wicket keepers and all-rounder with lower performance around the world are playing but I do not consider them as players having enough capability to justify their place in the team. Since country lacks replacement, they are playing.
Pakistani players that deserve to be in team on their performance are:
Batsmen:
Younus Khan:** Average 48.21**
Mohammad Yousuf:** Average 56.00**
Inzammam:** Average 50.64**
Taufeeq Umar: 39.29
Bowlers:
Shoaib Akhtar:** Bowling average 25.3** (169 wickets in 43 matches)
Mohammad Asif and Shabbir Ahmed have good records but have not proven yet with at least 100 test wickets.
Mohammad Asif: Bowling average 20.12 (49 wickets in 9 matches)
Shabbir Ahmed: Bowling average 23.03 (51 wickets in 10 matches)
Umar Gul: 30.62 (61 wickets in 14 matches)
All rounder:
None can justify their place in the ream on their batting or bowling performance.
What we have:
Shahid Afridi: Batting average above 37 (5 centuries and 8 fifties in 46 innings) bowling average 34 (47 wkts in 26 matches)
Shoaib Malik: Batting average 37 (1 centuries and 5 fifties in 29 innings) and bowling average 63 (13 wkts in 18 matches)
Abdul Razzak: Batting average 28 (3 centuries and 7 fifties in 77 innings) and bowling average 36 (100 wkts in 46 matches)
Though if team needs to select one all rounder, Shahid Afridi would do, if two then Razzak would do due to his bowling performance (on average of 2 wkts per match).
Actually team can be selected from available players. If there are not enough available players in the country, team may include below par players. That does not mean that country also have below par player as Captain, especially when country has good players.
Hence taking into regard overall performance over long period of time, deserving a place in test team, maturity, experience, I believe that these are best candidates for captaincy.
The best captain would be: Inzammam. Since Inzammam (due maturity, experience, age, and batting average) is out, hence:
Best would be: Mohammad Yousuf.
Second best would be: Younus Khan.
Third best would be: Shoaib Akhtar.
It would be different matter if we have Captain and players different for Test and One day. That would be ideal. If that would be the case, list would have different names.
Re: Breaking News…Shoaib Malik Gets Pakistan Captaincy according to “The Nation”
well according to your brilliant analysis Inzi would be the best captain, followed by Yousef.
BTW in case you missed the whole scenario Inzi was the captain in the recent past and had the honour of taking Pakistan out of this world cup in the first round. Inzi as a batsmen brilliant one of the best we had as a captain :nono: That just goes to show stats does not tell the whole story.
Re: Breaking News....Shoaib Malik Gets Pakistan Captaincy according to "The Nation"
Sa1eem1: I am sorry to say that all the work you put is going to waste. A Captain is not supposed to be the 'most accomplished' player in your team, or the one with the highest stats. You seem to belong that old club that resulted in lots of infighting in Pakistan cricket circles that had problems with x becoming a Captain when Y had a higher batting average or 'MORE YEARS' under their belt. And like ehsaan said, Inzi is the best batsman Pakistan ever had, and look what kind of Captain he was.
Re: Breaking News....Shoaib Malik Gets Pakistan Captaincy according to "The Nation"
Ehsan Saheb: :)
Well, Inzzi was captain. Wasn’t he? Team performance has gone down a lot in recent years, no doubt. Does that mean that he was not the best choice?
I believe amongst the players Pakistan have, Inzzi was one of the best choice as captain, as there was no doubt on his place in the team. His performance was also the best in the team (It is recently, during last year, that Yousuf overtook him on batting averages).
Lakin kiya kiya jayea? Andha kanoon may kanoon ka sardaar hota hay.
Where there were no players in the team as good as Inzzi, Inzzi has to be Captain. He got old and his performance has started going down. Nevertheless, still it is one of the best. He had team full of donkeys and thus result can’t have been any better :D
Re: Breaking News....Shoaib Malik Gets Pakistan Captaincy according to "The Nation"
Sa1eem1: I am sorry to say that all the work you put is going to waste. A Captain is not supposed to be the 'most accomplished' player in your team, or the one with the highest stats. You seem to belong that old club that resulted in lots of infighting in Pakistan cricket circles that had problems with x becoming a Captain when Y had a higher batting average or 'MORE YEARS' under their belt. And like ehsaan said, Inzi is the best batsman Pakistan ever had, and look what kind of Captain he was.
Probably you are right, who knows. Change the poll and put Shaikh Rashid Name too. I want to vote Shaikh Rashid. He knows how to abuse others as well as be bullish. He also has support of Strong Man in Pindi, the Commando General President :)
I am sure that he would keep the team as straight as a pole :)
Re: Breaking News....Shoaib Malik Gets Pakistan Captaincy according to "The Nation"
Good batsman yes, but Inzi is easily one of the dullest and goofiest captains we have ever had, no vision whatsoever. Uninspirational in the field - *waiting for things to happen rather than making them happen through innovative bowling changes and/or field placings *- and during his reign he dictated the selection committee and essentially got what he wanted because of his stubbornness not because of any mature forward thinking or planning. He once even threatened to quit playing as a batsman if the PCB sacked him as captain. And the less said about his mundane post match interviews the better :D
Re: Breaking News....Shoaib Malik Gets Pakistan Captaincy according to "The Nation"
Where there were no players in the team as good as Inzzi, Inzzi has to be Captain. He got old and his performance has started going down. Nevertheless, still it is one of the best. He had team full of donkeys and thus result can’t have been any better :D
hahaha
Re: Breaking News....Shoaib Malik Gets Pakistan Captaincy according to "The Nation"
Lakin kiya kiya jayea? Andha kanoon may kanoon ka sardaar hota hay.
Saleem Sahib no need to bring Musharrafs example into KK. :D