Breaking news: 'Plot to blow up planes' foiled

kiyani · August 11, 2006, 4:45pm

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^^

Or turn that theory around!

Pakistan was added in this publicity stunt to convince our mAd_ScIeNtIsT and a few others...

Guess it worked huh?

mAd_ScIeNtIsT · August 11, 2006, 4:51pm

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There’s no sense in that. Pakistan does not undermine itself.

Backing my argument, is my country’s government, who I have no reason do doubt. Who’s backing your argument? Your gut feeling? Your hunch?

Zabardast · August 11, 2006, 5:52pm

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I guess...it all happened by chance...a brit aka Rauf was caught at the Aghfan-Pak border for whatever reasons (just one week ago)...and he spit the whole thing...Pakistan warned UK to investigate which lead to the arrests of some 24 people at UK soil...

Now UK minister claimed they have been working on this alleged plot for months...while the lead in Pakistan just shot last week according the Pakistan Foreign Minister...a contradictory timings...

Its funny...the British PM briefed the US president on that matter...but he is still enjoying his holidays in the Carrebian...is it a pretty cooked up story and just relax...no way...I think...hmmmm

mAd_ScIeNtIsT · August 11, 2006, 7:09pm

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No, you’re getting 2 leads mixed up. The lead that started the investigation was over a year ago. They claim to have begun tracking the group then as they were suspected of planning an attack.

Pakistan arrested 2 people from that group last week and found the lead that the planned attack was in the immediate future, which is what made Britain wrap up the investigation and make the arrests.

The idea that Pakistan is part of a secret pro-Israel conspiracy is, frankly, laughable. From the beginning of the crisis Pakistan has demanded an immediate ceasefire; in doing so it adopted a harder line than even Saudi Arabia which started by saying that Hezbollah deserved it.

underthedome · August 11, 2006, 7:12pm

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MS, come on don't fight the conspiracy theorists, join them!

(looks pretty silly from the other side doesn't it?)

mAd_ScIeNtIsT · August 11, 2006, 7:17pm

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It looks silly when the known facts don't support the theory. I still stick by everything I said about the 7/7 bombings. Those were, and still are, very fishy indeed.

underthedome · August 11, 2006, 7:29pm

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Some of the 7/7 bombers had video tapes vowing attacks, that's a fact.

mAd_ScIeNtIsT · August 11, 2006, 7:30pm

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I believe it was one of them, the oldest guy.

underthedome · August 11, 2006, 7:43pm

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Yes and there was a second video from one of the other bombers as well.

SyedAbduallah · August 11, 2006, 7:44pm

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Please don't comment on this until I have given my opinion first, which will come out in a week or two.

Also I would like to know whether there were 24 or 25 magnificent individuals involved.

Mr_Fraudia · August 11, 2006, 7:51pm

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slow typist eh?

SyedAbduallah · August 11, 2006, 8:05pm

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I am going to wait for more information to be released concerning the event unlike the people who are towing the zionist controlled media’s slant. Heres some food for thought:

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Yesterday the British intelligence announced that it foiled a major “terror” plot to blow up at least 10 U.S.-bound planes, an attack that UK officials say could have surpassed 9/11.
Britain and the United States immediately raised their nationwide terror alerts to the highest levels, indicating that an attack is “imminent”. UK intelligence officials say, without providing any shred of evidence, that the bombers were planning to blow up several planes by using liquid explosives carried in soft-drink bottles, and that the bombs were supposed to be assembled on the aircraft and detonated with electronic equipment.
British police, who said that the alleged attacks could have caused “mass murder on an unimaginable scale”, arrested 24 people suspected of involvement in the “terror” plot. Pakistan also arrested seven Pakistanis, including two British nationals of Pakistani origin, on suspicion that they served as local “facilitators” for the two UK nationals.
U.S. and UK officials quickly said, again without providing any evidence, that some of the suspects belonged to the terror network al-Qaeda. A federal law enforcement official in Washington simply claimed that “the scheme to strike a range of targets at roughly the same time is an earmark of al-Qaeda”, according to the Associated Press news agency.
Many of the 24 suspects arrested in the UK were said to be British Muslims, and neighbors claimed that at least three of them were new converts to Islam. Deputy Commissioner Paul Stephenson, from London’s metropolitan police, claimed yesterday that the alleged bomb plot concerned “people who might masquerade within a community behind certain faiths”. The term “community” is often used in Britain to refer to people from the country’s minority religions and ethnic groups, particularly the 1.65 million Muslims, who account for 2.8 percent of Britain’s 60 million-strong population.

The Muslim council of Britain, the UK’s largest Islamic organization, said that such allegations could lead to a backlash against the Muslim community. “All right-thinking people must support the police in the intelligence-led actions they take to foil plots,” said MCB spokesman Inayat Bunglawala. “However, there will also be a sense of unease about how the arrests may be used by some far-right groups and others to portray once again British Muslims as a community as a huge reservoir of potential terrorists…We have seen similar high-profile raids in the past where people have been arrested only to be released without charge.”

In the United States, President Bush again angered the Muslim community by using insensitive and inflammatory terms. The American President said yesterday that the alleged terror plot showed that the U.S. was still at war with “Islamic fascists" five years after 9/11.
Edina Lekovic, a spokeswoman for the Muslim Public Affairs Council in Los Angeles, said she was concerned that Bush’s “Islamic fascists” tag would cast suspicion on all Muslims, even the vast majority who wants to live in safety. “The problem with the phrase is it attaches the religion of Islam to tyranny and fascism, rather than isolating the threat to a specific group of individuals,” she said.
Meanwhile, some analysts say the revelation of the alleged “terror” plot at this critical time is carefully designed to divert the world’s attention from the ongoing Israeli offensive in Lebanon, which has so far killed more than 1,000 Lebanese civilians.
American and British leaders are facing intense pressure at home and abroad for their handling of the Middle East crisis. President Bush has said from day one that Israel has “the right to defend herself.” And the UK Prime Minister Tony Blair’s position has mirrored that of the United States since the conflict began. Both leaders have repeatedly refused to condemn Israel’s actions in Lebanon as “disproportionate”, and have been reluctant to call for an immediate ceasefire, allowing Israel to crush Hezbollah and possibly kill more civilians.
At the same time, the U.S. and UK rushed to pin the blame for Israel’s unjustified offensive in Lebanon on Syria and Iran. President Bush said right after Israel launched its assault: “For the first time we’ve really begun to address with clarity the root causes of the conflict and that is, terrorist activity – namely, Hezbollah that’s housed and encouraged by Syria, financed by Iran.” The American President even tried to get the world’s most powerful leaders to sign a document condemning Tehran and Damascus for causing the current Middle East conflict. But Russia, China and other nations said there was no evidence to support such allegations.
Some analysts even say that the alleged “terror” plot in the UK threatens to take the world into World War III if the U.S., Britain and Israel succeeded in diverting the world’s attention from the Middle East crisis and blamed all the chaos on Hezbollah, Syria or Iran.
Not so long ago, the world’s attention was focused on Afghanistan and Iraq, where the U.S.-led occupation forces are being defeated. At the same, the sliding dollar and rising oil prices were pushing the controllers of Dick Cheney and the neocons to rush into World War III, which they think could heal all their wounds.
Given the current set of circumstances, one might wonder: Is it any surprise that the British intelligence chose to launch yet another absurd publicity stunt at such a critical time? And how long would the Western world believe such alleged “terror” plots uncovered by the secret intelligence agencies?
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underthedome · August 11, 2006, 8:11pm

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Huh? The Israel conflict is over a month old, Israel doesn't give 2 sh1ts if you're paying attention to it or not.

mAd_ScIeNtIsT · August 11, 2006, 8:16pm

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If the Israeli invasion and disproportionate bombardment of and civilians massacre in Lebanont was not happening, some would try and say that this is intended to hide the dog's turd mess the US is making of Iraq.

Seminole · August 11, 2006, 8:43pm

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^ Yes, no one ever said the Muslim world can't ever find material to concoct conspriacy theories.

arshad5 · August 12, 2006, 8:51am

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One of the suspects has already been released.

ZaA_A_ma · August 12, 2006, 1:14pm

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:-|

ZaA_A_ma · August 12, 2006, 1:17pm

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lol, agree with you

ehsan · August 12, 2006, 4:54pm

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****‘Civilians Put At Risk’](The Latest News from the UK and Around the World | Sky News)

Tony Blair has been urged to change UK foreign policy by a group of senior British Muslims.
In an open letter, they argue that current government policy encourages extremism and may put British citizens at risk of attack, both in the UK and abroad.
The letter also encourages Mr Blair to step up efforts to bring an end to the violence in the Middle East.
The letter appears as a full-page advert in some of Saturday’s national newspapers.
The 38 Muslim groups which signed the letter include the Muslim Council of Britain, the Muslim Association of Britain, the British Muslim Forum, the British Muslim Forum and the Muslim Solidarity Committee.
Other signatories include three Muslim MPs - Sadiq Khan, Shahid Malik and Mohammed Sarwar - and three Muslim members of the House of Lords - Lord Patel of Blackburn, Lord Ahmed of Rotherham and Baroness Uddin.
The letter reads:
Prime Minister,
As British Muslims we urge you to do more to fight against all those who target civilians with violence, whenever and wherever that happens.
It is our view that current British government policy risks putting civilians at increased risk both in the UK and abroad.
To combat terror the government has focused extensively on domestic legislation. While some of this will have an impact, the government must not ignore the role of its foreign policy.
The debacle of Iraq and now the failure to do more to secure an immediate end to the attacks on civilians in the Middle East not only increases the risk to ordinary people in that region, it is also ammunition to extremists who threaten us all.
Attacking civilians is never justified. This message is a global one. We urge the Prime Minister to redouble his efforts to tackle terror and extremism and change our foreign policy to show the world that we value the lives of civilians wherever they live and whatever their religion.
Such a move would make us all safer.