Re: Breaking News!!!! Osama Bin Laden is dead
According to Wikileaks terrorists threatened Americans that if **obama **was killed then they will explode a nuclear weapon hidden in Europe. another bluff by AQ?
i am sure you mean Osama!?!
Re: Breaking News!!!! Osama Bin Laden is dead
According to Wikileaks terrorists threatened Americans that if **obama **was killed then they will explode a nuclear weapon hidden in Europe. another bluff by AQ?
i am sure you mean Osama!?!
Re: Breaking News!!!! Osama Bin Laden is dead
i am sure you mean Osama!?!
I stand corrected. thanks
Re: Breaking News!!!! Osama Bin Laden is dead
*Breaking news............. Elton John is to record a tribute song "sandles in the bin"...
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Re: Seems Pakistan Army was in on the Operation to Kill Osama bin Laden in Thanda Cho
Very convenient timing for a technical malfunction ![]()
Re: Breaking News!!! Osama Bin Laden is dead
Nope, people revealing “what was going on” and not “what will happen” ![]()
Re: Breaking News!!!! Osama Bin Laden is dead
There is a dead pic of him .. but what suprises me that he has a black beard in his dead pic where as in his old pic, his beard was white .. so how can it be .. FAKE ??
Re: Breaking News!!!! Osama Bin Laden is dead
google the pic and u will see.
Re: Breaking News!!!! Osama Bin Laden is dead
^ the fact is that americans carried out an operation in abbotabad, a helicopter went down some people were killed and arrested and the pakistani foreign office has also indicated that osama was killed, ttp has promised more attacks against Pakistan, which all point that he was killed in Pakistan
Re: Breaking News!!! Osama Bin Laden is dead
**Bin Laden death could inflame Af-Pak violence **
(AFP)
2 May 2011, 4:08 PM
ISLAMABAD — Osama bin Laden’s killing has cost Al-Qaeda its iconic leader, but experts say it will not quash splintered militant networks in Afghanistan and Pakistan, where revenge attacks could increase.
The Saudi-born mastermind was the world’s most-wanted man with $25 million on his head — but his death is unlikely to crush the group behind the September 11, 2001 attacks and dozens of Islamist militant spin-off networks.
“Groups allied with Al-Qaeda are expected to react,” Rahimullah Yusufzai, an expert on tribal affairs, told AFP.
**“They will not let this loss go un-noticed, and their Jihadist allies and Pakistani Taliban will show some reaction by conducting suicide attacks.” **
**His killing by US forces just two hours’ drive from the capital has trapped Pakistan’s military and political establishment between a rock and a hard place. **
**If militants see Pakistan as complicit in the raid it is likely to invite revenge attacks. Confirming it was not pre-informed would be a humiliating acknowledgement that American troops can act with impunity on sovereign soil. **
Pakistan was quick to join the US-led war on terror announced by then president George W. Bush in the wake of the September 11, 2001 attacks and has long complained about the devastating cost in terms of human life.
More than 4,240 people have been killed in bomb attacks blamed on Al-Qaeda-linked militants since July 2007. More than 2,795 Pakistani soldiers have been killed in fighting since 2004. Another 8,671 have been wounded.
Pakistan on Monday massively stepped up security in the capital Islamabad, around sensitive diplomatic installations and around the site of the killing in the garrison town of Abbottabad, 50 kilometres (30 miles) away.
In Afghanistan, where the 10-year Taliban insurgency has been seen as largely distinct from Al-Qaeda and precise in its aims of bringing down the government, NATO said its mission would continue.
President Hamid Karzai called on Taliban guerrillas to learn a lesson from bin Laden and stop fighting. Violence is at record levels and the militia at the weekend announced the start of the new fighting season.
**Although bin Laden’s fall marks the most important “psychological victory” in the 10-year war, analysts warned militants could hit back hard in Pakistan. **
**Experts believe bin Laden had become little more than a guiding light for extreme Islamist cells operating across the globe, pointing to the calculating organisational skills of Al-Qaeda number two Ayman al-Zawahiri — still at large and believed to be in Pakistan — as the more important target. **
US intelligence has described the Egyptian-born Zawahiri, and not bin Laden, as Al-Qaeda’s “intellectual leader” with most of the leaders in Al-Qaeda Egyptian and in his orbit, rather than a Saudi circle sponsored by bin Laden.
Jason Burke, author of a book on Al-Qaeda, warned that the group had already become “increasingly marginal”.
“Al-Qaeda has only ever been one part of the broader phenomenon of contemporary Sunni Muslim Islamic militancy: a phenomenon that has roots that reach back decades if not centuries” in the Islamic world, he said.
The fact that a broader network exists and that groups are increasingly fragmented means that few believe bin Laden’s death will bring the conflict to a close.
“Al-Qaeda was already weak and this is the biggest loss they face now. But there will be people who will follow bin Laden’s ideology and the war will not end because the issues are not over,” said Yusufzai.
Ben Venzke of US monitoring group IntelCenter warned that large-scale retaliatory strikes were more likely months to a year or more from now, rather than in the coming days.
“The greatest risk is from individuals or small groups that have been radicalised and are not operating under the direct guidance of a significant group,” he said.
“The greatest impact on a group’s structure and ability to maintain its operational tempo are sustained blows to senior leadership and operational ranks,” he said.
Retired Pakistani general, political analyst Talat Masood, was more hopeful, believing that militant forces had been dealt a “major setback”.
“In the short- and middle-term it would start reducing their influence and forces fighting Al-Qaeda and its allies will feel boosted,” he said.
“They lost a mythical figure who was an iconic figure for them in many ways.”
Re: Breaking News!!! Osama Bin Laden is dead
Daily Mail are saying that the operation was carried out in very close cooperation with ISI. The strike team took off from a Pakistani base.
Re: Breaking News!!!! Osama Bin Laden is dead
now thats really interesting means everyone knew that its going to happen
everyone around the compound knew "whats going on" (in terms of heli, firing etc) but did not know about the significance of it.
Re: Breaking News!!!! Osama Bin Laden is dead
i am just watching talat hussains program he is saying that even our army and intelligence was not aware of the operation as the americans had jammed the frequencies before conducting the operation, this tells us about the capabilities of our army
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its funny that the americans conducted the operation and after it was successful obama called zardari to tell him that we have killed osama in your country
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seriousness of govt of pakistan in this aspect can be judged from zardari's statement in favor of alliance with pmlq but nothing about the operation which could cause grief for pakistan in the time to come
Re: Breaking News!!!! Osama Bin Laden is dead
Pak authorities were informed either during or after the operations, so I don't know what cooperation the ISI could possibly have provided. Infact, the Americans probably wanted to avoid ISI "cooperation" and thats why Pak was kept out of this operation.
Everyone still remembers what happened in 1998, when the USA tried to kill Bin Laden but he had already been tipped off and managed to escape.
Re: Breaking News!!! Osama Bin Laden is dead
so you are suggesting that this first time after 13 years that US has actually located Osama? ![]()
Re: Seems Pakistan Army was in on the Operation to Kill Osama bin Laden in Thanda Cho
I would be surprised if the Americans had involved Pak in this operation. I am sure they did not want Bin Laden being tipped off like what happened in 1998.
The news here seems to suggest it was a 100% US operation, and Pak was informed either during or after the operation.
Re: Seems Pakistan Army was in on the Operation to Kill Osama bin Laden in Thanda Cho
I would be surprised if the Americans had involved Pak in this operation. The news here seems to suggest it was a 100% US operation, and Pak was informed either during or after the operation.
The area where operation took place is supposedly full army area, so US operation without Pak's involvement looks distant.
Re: Seems Pakistan Army was in on the Operation to Kill Osama bin Laden in Thanda Cho
The area where operation took place is supposedly full army area,
Exactly, so it raises a lot of questions about how Bin Laden was hiding there. He couldn't have been there without ISI & Pak fauj support, so I dont know that US would have wanted to risk him being forewarned.
Re: Seems Pakistan Army was in on the Operation to Kill Osama bin Laden in Thanda Cho
The area where operation took place is supposedly full army area, so US operation without Pak's involvement looks distant.
Britain's Daily Mail ran a story where it reported that the 4 helicopters involved in the raid took off from a Pakistani military base in the north-west.