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Something doesn't add up here....on the face of it the reported set of events and roles don't make any sense
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Why would the British soldiers be carrying explosives in their truck and why would they be disguised as Arabs ? Sincle the western media is trying their best to downplay this part of the news I say what Silly Billy is implying is true.
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it's a bit like saying why would a climber carry a box matches. Explosives can be used for a lot of things other than killing people.
Disguised as arabs so they dont stick out in the crowd. Is that difficult to understand?
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So all these bombs/attacks against shias seem to make a lot more sense now, the US/UK and no doubt Isreali forces have been trying to start a civil war for a long time now, doesn't seem to working no matter how dirty they get.
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So whan Al-Zawahri makes statemnts declaring war on shia thats just fictional? just like Osamas group was never behind 9/11 or anything else.
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Wake upto the simple facts, acting like woman.
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Yes the explosives can be used for demolitions but those soldiers were not their for demolitions, besides why would only two soldiers dress up as Arabs if sticking out was such a major problem ? Wake up to the fact instead of talkinf like a girl, risc, people involved in espionage disguise themselves.
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I know this cinderella will come up with another of his stupid idea but I don't have any time to waste so bye.
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why would only two soldiers dress up as Arabs if sticking out was such a major problem ?
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What are you on about. Dressing a whole army in bracks makes it less obvious or something?
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people involved in espionage disguise themselves.
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Their not fookin James Bond. I was not involved so cant comment but it was probabaly patrolling and providing real time survelance on targets or a reccie for future operations.
If special forces who are multitasking soldiers cant carry explosives, guns, medical kits what can they carry? FYI the soldiers can be asked to do many things on request of the area commander so it makes sense to carry gear which may be used. A bit like saying dont carry a gun youre not going to use it. Always prepare for the worst.
You wake upto the facts. If two people wear a disguise you think it's a conspiracy. If they dress like the local population it's a bigger conspiracy.
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go and learn how a modern military works rather than spouting crap from rear end.
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by Kurt Nimmo
“So, the next time you read or hear about crazed “al-Qaeda in Iraq” terrorists blowing up children or desperate job applicants, keep in mind, according to the Iraqi Interior Ministry, the perpetrators may very well be British SAS goons who cut their teeth killing Irish citizens.”
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nasir, risc, try to talk without exchanging insults please.
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This is shameful. I hope the iraqi gov. wont let this one go. You wonder how many other attacks these undercover terrorists have been responsible for in the past. Alli can say is kudos to the Iraqi shias for holding back each and everytime their massess are killed, inturn avoiding a civil war and chaos. I dont know how they do it.
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^ true. i cant decide what to think of it myself
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Soldiers carrying explosives is nothing new. They might have also dressed up as arabs to avoid commotion in some area of operation.
Who opened fire first?
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The British weren’t about to let Sadr take hostages in order to trade them for his recently captured militant members.
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Here is a pretty complete story:
Police station raid was diversion as SAS squad rescued comrades
By Daniel McGrory
Army commanders insist they had to move to save the lives of the two British soldiers
AN SAS team used the noise of armoured vehicles bulldozing their way through a nearby police compound to mask the raid that freed their comrades.
The rescuers, from the same squad as the captives, blew out the doors and windows of the smart suburban villa with plastic explosive and hurled stun grenades at the militiamen guarding the two undercover soldiers.
A short, intense burst of automatic gunfire was heard before the men were freed and their captors were seen being dragged away, hoods over their heads and their hands tied behind their backs.
Neighbours said the entire operation took only a couple of minutes while attention was focused a hundred yards away on the army’s invasion of the main Jamiat police compound.
Army commanders denied being heavy-handed, insisting that they had no option but to stage a rescue mission once they had learnt that the soldiers had been handed over to extremists.
Brigadier John Lorimer, who commanded the operation, said: “I had good reason to believe the lives of the two soldiers were at risk.”
The soldiers had been beaten and rogue policemen had been touring the area with loudhailers urging demonstrators on to the streets to protest that the “British saboteurs” had been planning explosions in the city which would be blamed on followers of Moqtada al-Sadr, the Shia cleric.
The Iraqis displayed photographs of the explosives, weaponry and several bags of equipment allegedly found in the boot of the men’s unmarked car when they had been stopped at a checkpoint. There were also wigs, Arab headdress and sophisticated communications equipment.
**The two soldiers are believed to have been investigating a corrupt police unit in Basra who were colluding with Shia militia leaders. Some of the men who later interrogated them are believed to be part of this same unit. **
The mob which quickly gathered outside the detention centre were shouting for the Britons to be hanged as spies.
Hours of negotiations between army officers and local dignitaries were getting nowhere, and after armoured vehicles were firebombed by a mob and three soldiers injured the order was given at 9pm for Warrior armoured personnel carriers to smash their way into the compound.
A policemen said that he saw two walls knocked down as the Warriors crushed parked cars and demolished a line of prefabricated huts used as offices and sleeping quarters. Abbas Hassan, another officer, said: “Four tanks invaded the area. A tank cannon struck a room where a policeman was praying.”
The British search parties had to pick their way over splintered furniture, metal-bed frames and air-conditioning units.
Brigadier Lorimer would later call it “minor damage”. Muhammad al-Waili, the Governor of Basra province, claimed it was “barbaric, savage and irresponsible”.
Troops burst into every room as senior officers explained they had to ensure the missing Britons were not being hidden among the sprawl of buildings. If not, then they had to force the police to reveal where they had been taken. A military source said: “We knew they couldn’t have gone far because of our cordon but we were sure time was running out.”
One of the Iraqi prisoners who took advantage of the chaos to escape said that he had briefly shared a cell with the Britons. The man described how he watched as the pair were hauled away by guards who ordered inmates to strip off their Arab robes so they could disguise the men.
The suspicion was that the militiamen would try to smuggle their captives out of the protective cordon and use them as hostages in exchange for two of their leaders arrested by British troops on Sunday. The turning point came just before 7.30pm with the report that the Britons had been moved and officers manning the protective cordon thrown around the Hay al-Khalij district spotting a number of known agitators.
These were the same men who had orchestrated the earlier petrol bomb attacks on troops as they tried to pull back to neighbouring streets of Hayaniyah, a stronghold of the outlawed al-Mahdi Army. They were seen leading a gang of protestors converging for a second attack on troops from 12 Mechanised Brigade who were guarding the police compound.
Brigadier Lorimer later demanded that the Iraqis explain why the soldiers were not immediately handed over to coalition forces as required by the agreement regulating the British presence in Iraq. “This is unacceptable and we won’t hesitate to take action against those involved in planning and conducting attacks against coalition forces,” he said.
John Reid, the Defence Secretary, insisted that the attack was justified. “When it is necessary to protect British servicemen, we will take that action. And by God it was effective.”
There remained major differences last night in the rival accounts of the raid. Brigadier Lorimer says no Iraqis were injured. Local officials claim one prison guard was killed and another injured. The Iraqi Government also appeared split. Haider al-Ebadi, an advisor to Ibrahim Jaafari, the Prime Minister, decsribed the raid as a “very unfortunate development”.
But last night the Iraqi Government issued a statement denying that there was a “crisis” in relations between Baghdad and London.
Frickin’ Sadr. Should have martyred him a while ago. He is nothing but trouble.
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utd, a likely excuse for those desperate to bring back their agents.
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Gosh a corrupt police force? Who would imagine a Muslim country with a corrupt police force? Impossible.
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Was I right or was I right?
This is just one incident...
I want them to catch the CIA guys planting bombs in Iraq...
The kids being blown up, the bombing of the Shia procession...
But of course...The USA and Brits would never do that...And the Germans never had concentration camps...
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why were SAS personnel dressed as arabs, shooting at the police? soldiers getting a lil bored were they?
'The Iraqi government has launched an inquiry into the arrest of the soldiers, both thought to be members of the SAS elite special forces.’
*‘But Interior Minister Baqir Solagh Jabr told BBC News the men never left police custody or the prison building in Basra and were not handed to militants. **He said the British army acted on “rumour” when it stormed the prison looking for them.’ *
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and the 7/7 bombing in London was done by British intel to right?