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NO: It is the Jehadi Terrorists doing the killing all over the country. Blame them first before you do any deeper analysis.
You mean just like it's the jihadi terrorists killing Iraqis in Iraq? Blame them first?
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If the elections do go ahead now, the turn out will be very poor, and the chaudhries of Q group will finally get to rig it without much opposition from people. They were having a very hard time in the past two weeks where htey couldnt even get paid people to show up at their rallies.
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the guy who was a police officer who was involved in the MURDER of bhutto's son was soon given promotions by zardari..he became the I.G Sindh..the other guy became the director of FIA..lemme find the coulumn i read in newspaper ...lemme find it..it will take a little time...but wen i find it,i'll post it here for u to see the FACTS ..
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And there we go with the Blame game again.
Can someone please highlight the points Mush made in speech, I missed it.
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the things people come up with to support their favourite dictator...
Spock: Pakistan is going through sensitive times and our political grievances can wait. Too often people confuse the 'political situation' with the security situation in the country. The Taleban and AQ are inciting a civil war in Pakistan just like they did in Iraq and you are playing in their hands and in their plans.
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[admin]Can we please refrain from speculating who is responsible for this tragedy. Can we all show restraint and keep in mind the sombre mood of nation and the unfolding events. May Allah have mercy on Pakistan.[/admin]
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^u mean bhutto's BROTHER? her son is alive.. seems like you need to get your facts right before anyone else.
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the things people come up with to support their favourite dictator...
Unfortunately even now they have learnt nothing...although I suppose many those are not much bothered of what has happened today.
Sorry Mods but one day or another we need to know who is behind that. I havent seen any group made responsible for the first KHI blasts. Have you?!
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Fatima Bhutto Lashes Out Against Benazir
This will go down as one of the classic op-eds penned in Pakistani politics. And, it shows up in the LA Times. It is entitled Aunt Benazir’s false promises. I love how in her bio, Fatima accuses Benazir of killing Fatima’s father Murtaza. So subtle (and Fatima has every intention of joining politics):
KARACHI — We Pakistanis live in uncertain times. Emergency rule has been imposed for the 13th time in our short 60-year history. Thousands of lawyers have been arrested, some charged with sedition and treason; the chief justice has been deposed; and a draconian media law — shutting down all private news channels — has been drafted.
Perhaps the most bizarre part of this circus has been the hijacking of the democratic cause by my aunt, the twice-disgraced former prime minister, Benazir Bhutto. While she was hashing out a deal to share power with Gen. Pervez Musharraf last month, she repeatedly insisted that without her, democracy in Pakistan would be a lost cause. Now that the situation has changed, she’s saying that she wants Musharraf to step down and that she’d like to make a deal with his opponents — but still, she says, she’s the savior of democracy.
The reality, however, is that there is no one better placed to benefit from emergency rule than she is. Along with the leaders of prominent Islamic parties, she has been spared the violent retributions of emergency law. Yes, she now appears to be facing seven days of house arrest, but what does that really mean? While she was supposedly under house arrest at her Islamabad residence last week, 50 or so of her party members were comfortably allowed to join her. She addressed the media twice from her garden, protected by police given to her by the state, and was not reprimanded for holding a news conference. (By contrast, the very suggestion that they might hold a news conference has placed hundreds of other political activists under real arrest, in real jails.)
Ms. Bhutto’s political posturing is sheer pantomime. Her negotiations with the military and her unseemly willingness until just a few days ago to take part in Musharraf’s regime have signaled once and for all to the growing legions of fundamentalists across South Asia that democracy is just a guise for dictatorship.
It is widely believed that Ms. Bhutto lost both her governments on grounds of massive corruption. She and her husband, a man who came to be known in Pakistan as “Mr. 10%,” have been accused of stealing more than $1 billion from Pakistan’s treasury. She is appealing a money-laundering conviction by the Swiss courts involving about $11 million. Corruption cases in Britain and Spain are ongoing.
It was particularly unappealing of Ms. Bhutto to ask Musharraf to bypass the courts and drop the many corruption cases that still face her in Pakistan. He agreed, creating the odiously titled National Reconciliation Ordinance in order to do so. Her collaboration with him was so unsubtle that people on the streets are now calling her party, the Pakistan People’s Party, the Pervez People’s Party. Now she might like to distance herself, but it’s too late.
Why did Ms. Bhutto and her party cronies demand that her corruption cases be dropped, but not demand that the cases of activists jailed during the brutal regime of dictator Zia ul-Haq (from 1977 to 1988) not be quashed? What about the sanctity of the law? When her brother Mir Murtaza Bhutto — my father — returned to Pakistan in 1993, he faced 99 cases against him that had been brought by Zia’s military government. The cases all carried the death penalty. Yet even though his sister was serving as prime minister, he did not ask her to drop the cases. He returned, was arrested at the airport and spent the remaining years of his life clearing his name, legally and with confidence, in the courts of Pakistan.
Ms. Bhutto’s repeated promises to end fundamentalism and terrorism in Pakistan strain credulity because, after all, the Taliban government that ran Afghanistan was recognized by Pakistan under her last government — making Pakistan one of only three governments in the world to do so.
And I am suspicious of her talk of ensuring peace. My father was a member of Parliament and a vocal critic of his sister’s politics. He was killed outside our home in 1996 in a carefully planned police assassination while she was prime minister. There were 70 to 100 policemen at the scene, all the streetlights had been shut off and the roads were cordoned off. Six men were killed with my father. They were shot at point-blank range, suffered multiple bullet wounds and were left to bleed on the streets.
My father was Benazir’s younger brother. To this day, her role in his assassination has never been adequately answered, although the tribunal convened after his death under the leadership of three respected judges concluded that it could not have taken place without approval from a “much higher” political authority.
I have personal reasons to fear the danger that Ms. Bhutto’s presence in Pakistan brings, but I am not alone. The Islamists are waiting at the gate. They have been waiting for confirmation that the reforms for which the Pakistani people have been struggling have been a farce, propped up by the White House. Since Musharraf seized power in 1999, there has been an earnest grass-roots movement for democratic reform. The last thing we need is to be tied to a neocon agenda through a puppet “democrat” like Ms. Bhutto.
By supporting Ms. Bhutto, who talks of democracy while asking to be brought to power by a military dictator, the only thing that will be accomplished is the death of the nascent secular democratic movement in my country. Democratization will forever be de-legitimized, and our progress in enacting true reforms will be quashed. We Pakistanis are certain of this.
this is a column by fatima bhutto..read it wd ur eyes open!
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the following group of people are using or have used suicide bombers:
given that its highly unlikely that either 1 or 2 were involved in killing of bb, suspicion naturally should fall on 3 who btw have declared on record that they intend to kill bb because she is a western stooge in the mold of musharraf and mubarak. now its possible that (3) should be operating on behest of government. as far as i know, govt does not run training camps for suicide bombers so it must use the services of 3 when it wants to eliminate its opponents.
another question that also arises is why did govt not target nawaz sharif given that he is bigger threat in punjab than bb was?
and what could not nawaz sharif be behind the blast because with bb eliminated, all the anti-mush vote will now go to nawaz. evidence for nawaz's guilt will be provided when proof of musharraf's involvement is presented.
Let's not believe in conspiracy theories all the time. I don't think that NS is in any way involved in her murder. Aside from BB's pro-Western stance, some religious fundamentalists just don't accept or approve of women leading a muslim nation. So it is possible that she was killed by some brain-washed loner (cf. the murder of a Punjab woman provincial minister (forgetting her name) by a religious fanatic not so long ago). Only option 3 is plausible IMHO
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You mean just like it's the jihadi terrorists killing Iraqis in Iraq? Blame them first?
Yeah, when a suicide bomb goes off in an Iraqi market, I say blame the AQ terrorists who are trying to start a civil war.
By the way, I was against US invasion of Iraq too. But I am still sane enough to see that AQ bunch are terrorists and should be condemned for their terrorist activities.
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Spock: Pakistan is going through sensitive times and our political grievances can wait. Too often people confuse the 'political situation' with the security situation in the country. The Taleban and AQ are inciting a civil war in Pakistan just like they did in Iraq and you are playing in their hands and in their plans.
You are riht Pakistan is going through a sensitive time. Infact Pakistan has been going through a sensitive period for several years now. Infact if memory serves one well, the country has been going thru various sensitive periods through out its history. What is Taliban, what is Alqaeda? have you ever paused and asked yourself that question? Are they really responsible for the destruction in Iraq? Is civil war all th work of an organized group called Al-Qaeda which has done all this in Iraq? or Afghanistan? or Pakistan? hell throw in a few other countries into he mix?
I guess inorder to make tings simple I will have to ask you if your politics are the same as President Bush. If so, then things will become clearer.
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^u mean bhutto's BROTHER? her son is alive.. seems like you need to get your facts right before anyone else.
chay9164, Murtaza Bhutto was brother of benazir bhutto and son of zulfkhar ali hutto.
when he is referred to as bhutto's son, its ZAB deejah is referring to.
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its the saddest and the darkest day in the history of Pakistan. what a shame!
May her soul rest in peace.... here im tryin to calm my mom down...she really liked her a lott !!.. shes cryin like a lil baby... :(.. omg..i just cant believe this pakistani politics... Burn in hell whoever did that suicide attack.... i just dont have words to express my sadness towards her family :(....
Bhutto ull always be remembered and greatly missed!
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^u mean bhutto's BROTHER? her son is alive.. seems like you need to get your facts right before anyone else.
oh man..how dumb are u?
in pakistan,we call benazir as Bhuttto's daughter..wen we say BHUTTO..we mean Z.A.Bhutto,not B.Bhutto...evryone calls her BB or benazir,non one here calls her bhutto...by bhutto,i meant zulfikar ali bhutto...honestly,didnt u ever read newspaper in pakistan?ok..i was just kidding..dont take it as rudeness...
hope u got it now!
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Yeah, when a suicide bomb goes off in an Iraqi market, I say blame the AQ terrorists who are trying to start a civil war.
By the way, I was against US invasion of Iraq too. But I am still sane enough to see that AQ bunch are terrorists and should be condemned for their terrorist activities.
Awesome, we agree. I blame them too whole heartedly, so do Iraqis and I think most muslism when they see body parts of innocent people flying. It would serve us all well if we remember how was Iraq brought to this Abaddon in the first place.
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I don't know what her kids will be going through at this moment... some people are criticizing her on policies which doesn't even matters now.
gosh.....
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anyone's relatives suffered any damages?.....
The situation is reaching peak-chaos! :(
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the guy who was a police officer who was involved in the MURDER of bhutto's son was soon given promotions by ur beloved zardari..he became the I.G Sindh..the other guy became the director of FIA..lemme find the coulumn i read in newspaper ...lemme find it..it will take a little time...but wen i find it,i'll post it here for u to see the FACTS ..
So that 'proves' Benazir ordered the murder? There is a thing called a trial. Was either benazir or Zardari found guilty of his murder, NO. Like I said, I can accuse you of mudering someone but that does not mean its a fact. So next time dont present your opinion as a fact. And btw, right after Murtaza was murdered, BB's Govt was dismissed so your theory is harldy conclusive.