Breaking News: Akhtar, Asif called back to Pakistan!

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If the steriods were really used for injury recovery by PCB doctors than shouldn't the PCB know about them? And if they knew about them than why the heck would you ban the players? If they were afraid that the ICC might catch them than they shouldn't have used it in the first place or maybe created a strong case if the ICC does happen to detect the banned substances in their system. This situation, just like the situation at the Oval, reeks of incompetence to me. There might be teams composed of pre-teens on the streets of Gujranwala that are better managed than this. I'm pretty sure there are many banned substances going around the blood systems in the Australian, English etc cricket system but I'm also sure that their board knows exactly what they are getting involved in and that ratting on your players just before a major tournament shouldn't be an option.

Also, steroids definitely do help every athlete. Besides the facts that it speeds up muscle recovery and what not, it also helps you focus more on the game, which can be helpful to both bowlers and batsmen. So for a fast bowler, not only will it help you to bowl at speeds of 90+ mph, it can also help your line and length. Likewise for batsmen, not only can it help you hit sixes upon sixes with relative ease, it can also help your timing on the ball, making it useless to start slogging.

Re: Breaking News: Akhtar, Asif called back to Pakistan!

I think we should believe Shoaib when he says he didn't take Nandrolone.

Its not like he's ever lied, cheated or commited any sort of offense before in his career to offend the Pakistani public.

Long live Shoaib Akhtar.

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Oh look the Looser Akhtar was having BREAKFAST in Ramadan. No let me correct It was All Kind Of A-class drugs that he was indulging in... kafir

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^not only breakfast....but sausages.

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^ bhaijaan you can get halal sausages too.. where they dont use pork but halal beef.. even though the contents of the sausages are everything but meat. :p

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I believe Abbas and Shariar Khan got together and spiked them with Nandrolone in revenge for being given out.

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You're joking surely. Cyclists have huge powerful legs. Power is everything in cycling. King of the hills, end of race sprint. Cyclists have huge legs in proportion to their bodies. Asif looks like he spends an hour in every year at the gym.

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Malcolm Speed, the International Cricket Council’s chief executive, last night issued a veiled threat to the Pakistan Cricket Board to ensure that Shoaib Akhtar and Mohammad Asif are correctly punished if they are found guilty of taking performance-enhancing drugs.

The ICC this year signed up to the World Anti-Doping Agency code and he hinted that, if Akhtar and Asif are found guilty and Wada believes the punishment handed out by the PCB is too lenient, then the agency could step in and take action itself.

**A two-year ban is the normal course but there are options for the player to prove no fault or no performance-enhancing effect. **I can’t pre-empt the facts," said Speed. "Initially it is a Pakistan Cricket Board function.

Asked what sort of message it would send out if Shaoib or Asif were to play in the World Cup in the West Indies in five months’ time, Speed said: "I think we are getting ahead of ourselves. If the B test proves positive a penalty will be imposed and it would be dangerous if we speculated about the World Cup. I have heard speculation concerning the two players recent injuries although I would not expect to hear any more details until the tribunal."

SOURCE: Speed warning to Pakistan over lenient punishment | Cricket | The Guardian

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^y did Warne get one year?

Pakistan quickly turn from a favorite to win World Cup & ICCT to having no chance at all...hmm cuda seen that coming.

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It is my favorite, but this was in reply to someone who leaves no opportunity to bash Shoaib Akhtar regardless of what the issue at hand is, because Shoaib happens to have hit his favorite player on helmet, yorked, ducked (out on duck) etc :D

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talking of replacements for these bowlers. why in the world we have never heard of Anwar Ali who destroyed indian top order with great swing. during the old days we always used to pick raw talent. why we keep repeating Umer Gul, Yasir, Iftikhar Anjum and Sami.

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It was again handled very poorley by PCB.. both were already injured and should had been called back.. and given private chitrol.. or may have ended their careers than breaking the great news on the eve of Pakistans first match at ICC..

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So did they take the 2nd tests yet? what were the results?

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unfortunately same... :-(

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Pakistani Fans are less concerned of this ‘dope testing’ fiasco as compare to some of our guest Indian Fans who are more happier than ever.
What the heck, even Mr. Robert is also awakened out of his den by this noisy batameez crowd.
:smiley:

Things are looking up guys ! :shoaby: :jhanda:

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^ very true :hehe:

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Some support for Shoaib and Asif:

Tauseef Razzaq, a reputed physiotherapist and sports medicine specialist, who told AFP that the positive test results probably stemmed from the medicines he had been taking to aid his recovery from injury.

“Akhtar is definitely innocent and I can vouch for him,” said Tauseef. “He doesn’t know anything about medicines, and since he recently suffered ankle and knee injuries, he must have taken some medicines which are painkillers but come under the banned substances.”

Dr Razzaq was hired by Shoaib in 2004, a move which attracted criticism from the PCB. He added that Shoaib had returned two negative tests, at the Champions Trophy in England two years ago and after the 2003 World Cup in South Africa.

“Akhtar is so valuable a cricketer and is conscious of the fact,” said Razzaq, “so I don’t think he would take anything intentionally. Since he bowls at a venomous pace he also knew he would always be a target for a dope test.”


**Danish Zaheer, president of the Sports Medicine Association of Pakistan, has said that there could be an outlet for the banned players, if they can prove that the substance was not obtained through external means. **

“Nandrolone is normally taken under medical supervision as it is used in injectable form but recent theories suggest this substance is naturally produced in athletes’ bodies,” Zaheer told AFP. “Both players can claim that they have bodies that normally produce such banned substances more than the prescribed quantity - that is a possible theory.”


Jaipur, Oct 17 (IANS) Two groups have offered to find “loopholes” in the doping system that found excess doses of a performance enhancing drug in the bodies of Pakistani speedsters Shoaib Akhtar and Mohammed Asif.

Asian Federation of Sports Medicine (AFSM) and the Sports Medicine Association of Pakistan (SMAP) have said if asked their doping control experts can help find “loopholes” in the system that found excess presence of Nandrolone in the players’ bodies, ruling them out of the Champions Trophy in India.

Both Shoaib and Asif, through their counsel/doping expert, will now have to plead their cases in a manner that both players have such bodies that naturally produce such banned substances more than the prescribed quantity – that is a possible theory," said AFSM vice-president Danish Zaheer in an e-mail message received by IANS.

“A good doping expert can also point out the loopholes in the doping conducting systems that may also be beneficial for both players,” the mail said quoting Zaheer telling the Voice of America from Brunei.

Both Shoaib and Asif have been taking medication and are coming off injuries, and it is possible that certain painkillers that they might have taken had contained Nandrolone.

According to World Anti Doping Agency (WADA), the presence of more than two Nanograms Nandrolone found in an athlete’s body is punishable with a two-year ban.

But Zaheer said some players could naturally produce up to 37 nanograms of Nandrolone.

“It is normally taken under supervision as it is used in injectable form, but recently theories have also suggested that sometimes this substance is naturally produced in the athletes’ bodies indigenously,” he said.

SMAP secretary Pervez Rizvay also said if asked SMAP can render services to the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) as well as Shoaib and Asif to defend their cases. SMAP had defended Pakistan hockey player Mussaddiq Hussain in 1992.

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Its not that big of a news, players get injured and steroids/ ban substances are not either clear to detect or point, thus confusion occurs. Go back to your daily lives.

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Indeed, and I am sure you've read your buzurg statesman Sherry the chorman baba's statements to an Indian publication by now, where he claims that they (the board) suspected Shoaib of taking steroids for two years...and the fact that nothing was done adds another spectecular feather in his distinguished screw up job...

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My take on this entire episode is that somebody (working with PCB in the past or present) with malicious intentions was behind the calling back of Akhtar and Asif.
A cricket board will not risk the careers of two of their best players and the future of their entire team by divulging the findings to the world. Even if we agree that PCB sent the samples to the laboratories with the best of intentions, PCB will not let the world know about this keeping in mind that the players can get banned for as much as 2 years. They could have easily cited injury reasons to call Akhtar and Asif back.