"At the fact that the Iraqi people be they Sunni or Shia are resisting your forces"
Actually haven't heard of much problem at all in the Shia and Kurd areas. Just Saddam's backyard.
"At the fact that the Iraqi people be they Sunni or Shia are resisting your forces"
Actually haven't heard of much problem at all in the Shia and Kurd areas. Just Saddam's backyard.
You only read what you like don’t you? Here read these:-
British troops killed in Iraq](http://www.gupistan.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=110072&highlight=shia)
Thousands of Iraqi Shia’s Demand end to US occupation](http://www.gupistan.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=109804&highlight=shia)
Iraqi Shiite Revolution in Making?](http://www.gupistan.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=101804&highlight=shia)
US-backed militia terrorises Iraqi town / Shia leader murdered in Najaf](http://www.gupistan.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=100008&highlight=shia)
“Lord of the Marshes” wants his country back](http://www.gupistan.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=102476&highlight=shia)
Grieving Shia families despair of US justice](http://www.gupistan.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=104895&highlight=shia)
The British troops were killed over a month ago.
The rest of what you describe is not attacks on US soldiers, but the struggles of getting the country stabilized. Obviously with a power vacuum there will be ups and downs.
There have been very few attacks on Americans in Shia and Kurdish areas.
And frankly:
"Thousands of Shias Demand...."
Well praise God. That sounds like Liberty and Freedom of Speech! Under Saddam they would have been imprisoned or worse for this.
Most of the attacks are in Baghdad, which just happens to be a largely Shia-majority city. ![]()
Here’s what leading Shia’s are saying now…
Iraqi Shi’ite Leader Rejects Governing Council](Yahoo News: Latest and Breaking News, Headlines, Live Updates, and More)
The suburbs North and West of the city, as well as the corridor to the airport have been the sites of most of the killings. The Shia areas have a lot of crime, but not many killings of Americans.
And Shi'iite rejects governing council? Sounds like somebody jockeying for position on the constitutional committee, or for elections.
Imagine if that same Shia leader had "rejected one of Saddam's councils? What do you suppose his life expectancy would be? Would the world even have known? The Saddam controlled media certainly would not have covered his dissent!
Progress!
Yes, and that is why people like Rumsfeld had to state publicly that Iraq could not have the form of government that the Shia’s were demonstrating for i.e. an Islamic government. Seems like the American’s are quite scared of Shia political power. ![]()
As for American’s welcoming demonstrations and dissent…
U.S. troops kill 15 Iraqi protestors, including children](http://www.gupistan.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=102672&highlight=demonstrators)
Yankee Go Home - US troops kill upto 10 Iraqi protestors in Mosul](http://www.gupistan.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=100787&highlight=demonstrators)
Dated April 29th, and April 14th. More than two months ago. Try again.
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Dated April 29th, and April 14th.
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And proof of how the American occupation army deals with those who protest (supposedly freely) against their presence.
Not proof at all, one of those incidents was in Falluja, which has proven to be a hot bed of resitance. Not suprising that a crowd would get out of control there.
Face it. 2/3rds of the country is stabilizing, and Saddams loyalists are being a pain in the butt. All of the "conflict" that you site with a leader denouncing the coalition sounds like local politics which is in general a healthy thing.
Or perhaps you think that Iraqi's would be better off if Saddam came back?
The American’s shot at demonstrators did they not, and ended up inncocent children at the same time did they not?
America is rushing in more and more troops across Iraq, and begging country after country to send troops as well. Even the US Senate is saying that, and now even the Pentagon is warning that time is running out…
‘Time running out’ to secure Iraq](BBC NEWS | Middle East | 'Time running out' to secure Iraq)
The Pentagon commissioned a study on post war Iraq. Here is the report and some of the comments
http://www.csis.org/isp/pcr/IraqTrip.pdf
US soldiers shot into crowds at those who had bravely been firing from behind civilains.
Somehow this sounds vaguely familiar. Right as the war got started, there was a huge sandstorm, and everyone was worried that the war was going very badly. Three days later troops were in Baghdad.
Things are neither as bad as they seem, nor as permanent as they seem.
Yes, of course the Pentagon. ![]()
You’ve got to love comments like this. The intent is obviously to diss the findings of this report because the Pentagon was the one that ** commissioned ** it. Obviously, no attempt was made to read the study before denigrating its findings. Otherwise, the poster would have realized that the the BBC article titled “‘Time running out’ to secure Iraq” (approvingly cited in his immediately preceding post) was based upon this very report commissioned by the Pentagon. ![]()
As noted by the BBC, the “advisory team was led by John Hamre, financial controller of the defence department during the Clinton era, and current head of the respected Center for Strategic and International Studies.”
The Report is well worth reading by anyone who doesn’t have fixed predispositions that are not going to be changed by knowing the facts. Here are some excerpts that give a flavor for the contents of the study.
“The coalition has made significant progress in just sixty days. This is due in large part to the exceptional work of the coalition military forces in carrying out tasks far removed from their combat duties. Civil affairs contingents have been key to their efforts, although much more civil affairs capacity was needed in the early stages of the reconstruction. The energy and enthusiasm of the CPA staff is remarkable, as is their sense of mission and dedication.”
The study also finds: “In our travels throughout the country, Iraqis uniformly expressed the view that the window of opportunity for the CPA to turn things around in Iraq is closing rapidly.”