[brandpakistan] Pakistan - School for Terror - Current Issue of the Economist

wow. what a deep manipulation, propaganda against Pakistan.

[brandpakistan] Pakistan - School for Terror - Current Issue of the Economist

Pakistan

School for terror
Aug 17th 2006
From The Economist print edition

Despite its success against al-Qaeda, Pakistan is an extremist haven
FOR a pleasant change, Pakistan has won praise for its efforts in helping British spies foil the latest grand terrorist design, most of whose 23 alleged plotters were Britons of Pakistani descent. Officials in Britain and America talk of their excellent co-operation with Pakistan; some speak admiringly of its disciplined intelligence agencies. Intelligence types in all three countries say al-Qaeda, whose fugitive leaders are believed to be close to the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan, was probably involved. Pakistan is believed to have arrested 17 people in relation to the plot, including one in the border area, Rashid Rauf, a 25-year-old Briton whose brother Tayib was among the alleged plotters arrested in Britain.

And that may be about all that anyone knows at this stage. Other delicious details have been hotly aired. Speculation has surrounded Hafeez Saeed, who founded the biggest jihadist group fighting in disputed Kashmir, Lashkar-e-Toiba (LT). He now heads an Islamist charity, Jamaat ud Dawa (JUD), which is a front for the armed group. Mr Saeed was arrested shortly before the plot was foiled. JUD, which is legal in Pakistan, was banned by America in April. Some pundits have suggested the group was involved in funding the recent plot, having raised millions of dollars last year to provide relief to earthquake victims in Kashmir.

But there is nothing to confirm this. JUD and LT were formed to attack India; they have shown scant interest in joining a global jihad. It is likelier that Mr Saeed was arrested under pressure from America, to placate India, after bomb attacks last month in Mumbai.

Shorn of such spicy intrigues, in fact, there would be little new in Pakistan’s latest contribution to the war on terror. Since joining it, by abandoning its Taliban proxies in Afghanistan in late 2001, Pakistan has pursued al-Qaeda with quite impressive success. It has arrested or killed scores of its members, allegedly including the group’s last three global operations chiefs, the most famous of whom, Khaled Sheikh Mohammed, masterminded the September 11th 2001 attacks.

Goaded (perhaps unwisely) by America, it has sent 80,000 troops into its tribal border area, thereby starting a war with tribesmen in which 800 soldiers have died. Lest anyone doubt these efforts, Ayman al-Zawahiri, al-Qaeda’s second-in-command, has often called on devout Muslims to kill Pervez Musharraf, Pakistan’s president. On several occasions, some of them have tried to do so.

And yet Pakistan is home to a broad Islamist militant threat of which al-Qaeda is but one part, and this is less easily countered. There are scores of extremist groups in Pakistan and thousands of trained Islamist killers. Most of these have been nurtured by successive military governments, to fight their wars in Afghanistan, Kashmir and Pakistan’s own riotous cities.

Thus encouraged, and with the country’s secular institutions reeling under corruption and neglect, a sizeable part of the general population has been radicalised. According to various estimates Pakistan has between 10,000 and 40,000 religious schools, or madrassas. A few of these are said to provide military training. In such an environment, European extremists, especially those of South Asian descent, can certainly find the inspiration and technical know-how they need to launch attacks.

Re: [brandpakistan] Pakistan - School for Terror - Current Issue of the Economist

Which particular sentences are propaganda or manipulation? :confused:

Re: [brandpakistan] Pakistan - School for Terror - Current Issue of the Economist

That’s what im trying to get :confused: It is seems to be a true story, atleast ground reality and proofs prove this.

Re: [brandpakistan] Pakistan - School for Terror - Current Issue of the Economist

i live in america and these people think that pakistan is a terrorist country. in here, the americans do not behave well with pakistanies, and they treat indians very good, and pakistan is stil considered a third world country and india is considered a highly developing country!!!! damn americans

Re: [brandpakistan] Pakistan - School for Terror - Current Issue of the Economist

I guess you could choose to be an ostrich and bury your head in the sand. Or look at what the whole world sees & acknowledges and try to fix it.

However, Pakistanis seem to revel in finding out faults with India. Looks like you guys are trying to justify your creation in 1947.

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AMERICANS and westren people they are not treating well pakistanis .dont be disappoint .bcz indian always create an image and perception agianst pakistan and they have been doing this thing sice 1947 but they still not able to get sucess and they never get.indian means hindus they r the one of the miser and corrupt people in this world.they hate muslim and pakistani why bzc muslim rule in india 1000 yrs and they were all servents of muslim that time.even they dont have guards to execute and invent themself properly .after 1948 they r ruling indian only they have been ruling in india only 69 yrs.thats it so these people cant think of ruling india and pakistan.pakistan is one of the brightest and growing nation.in 1947 pakistan they dont have moiney even they dont have industries etc.but pakistanis worked hard and make a pakistan in 1998 a nuclear country.this is the big achievment . all indian cinema and filsm they r showing corruption and terrorism in their films.pakistani filmns nevre do these things .same like all terrorism technique r shown in holywood films no muslim world showing and pakistan showing .onl;y these two film industry they r showing bollywood and hollywood.indian trying to demolished pakistan since 1947 but by the grace of god they didnt bcz they dont have power and unity .

Re: [brandpakistan] Pakistan - School for Terror - Current Issue of the Economist

Says a person whose every post here is to make fun of Pakistan. Looks like he still hasn't got over the partition. Time to move on, stop living in the past and try and contribute something constructive for once.

Re: [brandpakistan] Pakistan - School for Terror - Current Issue of the Economist

Correction - my posts are meant to provide you guys a reality check. Since you like to thump your chests about how great Pak is & how bad India is, you do need to get the other perspective too.

I am quite proud of my country & feel that we are better off after partition. But I feel you suffer from an inferiority complex stemming from your creation in 1947. Its more like trying to justify that the idea behind Pak's creation still exists.

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^ You got it wrong. You are obviously suffering from a severe bout of inferiority complex that you feel the need to come on to a Pakistani board and try and run them down in every post. Get over your complexes. I am proud of my country and am very positive that the best thing we did was to leave you people and form our own country. We don't need to justify our existence especially to the ones whom we rejected and left 60 years ago.

Re: [brandpakistan] Pakistan - School for Terror - Current Issue of the Economist

Great :slight_smile: The feeling is mutual then :blush:

Re: [brandpakistan] Pakistan - School for Terror - Current Issue of the Economist

You hit the nail right on the head :k:

Re: [brandpakistan] Pakistan - School for Terror - Current Issue of the Economist

Really ? Then can you explain the Paki fascination with Bollywood movies & Indian music ? Going by your attitude, you should stay miles away from anything Indian.

Don't believe me ? Check out the World Entertainment section of GS.

Re: [brandpakistan] Pakistan - School for Terror - Current Issue of the Economist

What has that got to do with us forming a separate country. it also proves that we do not suffer from inferiority complex. We appreciate and give credit to the good stuff which comes out of your country. Personally I don't watch Indian movies. There are better ways to torture myself. :D Peace.

Re: [brandpakistan] Pakistan - School for Terror - Current Issue of the Economist

Thats because we have to take it upon ourselves to show what a Sh1ty country India really is.. I mean, you live in a real garbage country… I wonder why you dont just kill yourselves?

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Your frustration is really amusing :) I guess when you dont have any thing to contribute you start resorting to name calling. Makes no difference to me or to other Indians. We know what our country is, and dont need any certifications.

Re: [brandpakistan] Pakistan - School for Terror - Current Issue of the Economist

pakistanies are really number 1 idiots in the whole world. i mean, they cant do anything themselves, and take out their frustration by blaberring against India. dont blame u buddy, not ur fault, u live in a country who has no standards of it's own

Re: [brandpakistan] Pakistan - School for Terror - Current Issue of the Economist

If we're so bad, why do you hang out on a Pakistani forum?

Re: [brandpakistan] Pakistan - School for Terror - Current Issue of the Economist

Haha...ingenious...fruits of enlightened moderation...no matter how much you sell out, you will still be pesky rag heads...

Re: [brandpakistan] Pakistan - School for Terror - Current Issue of the Economist

Oft repeated rhetorical question :)