Brain Storming in Islam

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Bismi-Allah
READ AND ANSWER WITH FREE AND SINCERE MIND …

  1. Evil can come from evil, evil can not come from Non-evil/good !!!
    yes or no:
    if Yes: the Allah is Good , can he create evil?
    if No: He is not the creator of every thing?

  2. Nabi/Rasool is massom and he can not commit mistake !!!
    yes or no:
    if Yes: then why was Adam (AS) punished and asked to leave Jannaa?
    if No: then nabi/rasool can make mistake and thus is/are not masoom?

Try it and we will discuss and insh-Allah will get the answers, Islam is fool proof and has answer to every question needs affection for every one weather muslim or not and just struggle to get what u want

Wasalam

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1) Allah created man and jinn with both good and evil, and this is the real test as to what the person supresses and what he portrays....
if he suppresses his evil desires, and sticks to the good, he passes, and vice versa....

2) u got it whole wrong that Adam (as) was asked to leave Jannat as a punishment....

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Kalmaat revive faith
shab-e-miraj , shaba-kadar & shabe-barat all are blessed nights for prayers and forgiveness.
charity is admonished.
piety is held supreme as a personal virtue
respect for life, al life forms is made a rule to live by
law in economics and society ( true and fair fiqh) embodies rulings that are most fair.
peaceful balance taught in minding the world as well as spirituality is something that you do not need to brain storm about, in our deen.
Ramadan is a wonderful gift of Allah to purify the body and the soul and the mind.
personal, bodily and spiritual as well as societal obligations are made very clear and are fair, as long as practiced with good intentions.
prayers revive the soul and the faith
eid comes and each new Islamic year ideally will and ought to make Muslims and Musalimahs more stronger as builders of the societies with our moral values, and our hardworking, honest and practical zeal to do our work for the best interest of everyone.

hence, i for one, think, that as young Muslims we are optimally blessed. it is up to us though,
how well we make use of what Allah (swt) endowed on un.

and then we have this universal message to carry - not force on others, but simple indicate by how we conduct our every day lives - that our faith is golden beautiful.

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A) ALLAH is perfect and He made humans and jinns too and he made evil too because he want to test us that are we elligible for jannah this world is our examination room where we have to pass our tests.
B)Nabi are masoom but they are not perfect only ALLAH is perfect and when they do anything wrong ALLAH tell them. It was suppose to happen that way because Adam had to come to the world.

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very nice replies ...urthermore..adam(as) prophethood started when he came on earth as a "prophet" .....so his masoomiat also...in my humble opinion..started after that...not when he was in jannah....

furthermore...it is not good to see everything specially religion in light of logic and philosophy..these ruined us for 1400 years like in Iran philosophers influenced by greeks and many sufis also influnenced deviated by these logics..philosophies..and useless brain teaser questions and debates....just useless...but i think the thread starter is a hindu.. i ab mot objecting anyone's religion but we should keep aside of such things as much as possible ..similar like talking on "qudrat" that if we sin..its in our nature by god..why we unished then and such like that which are strictly forbidden by prophet(pbuh)....

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All you have done is avoid the question...

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You have presumed the answers you want to see so this is not an open discussion or brain storming session.

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WRONG.
There is no such thing as evil. Its the lack of gudness that is referred to as evil, just as the absense of light is called darkness. There is no such thing as darkness. Light is energy and can be measured. You can't measure darkness.

Allah created man in His own image and as man drifts further from his basic nature he becomes evil.

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2) Nabi/Rasool is massom and he can not commit mistake !!!!
yes or no:
if Yes: then why was Adam (AS) punished and asked to leave Jannaa?
if No: then nabi/rasool can make mistake and thus is/are not masoom?

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Who said making a mistake is equal to not being masoom. Prophets are humans as well and as such can make mistakes in worldly affairs, but their message is pure and mistake free. AND one has to keep in mind there is a big difference between a mistake and a sin. A sin is an intentional act of rebellion against the orders of Allah and one's basic nature. Prophet Jonah(as) for example was told by Allah that his people would be punished so he left the city and after he left, the people repented enmass and were forgiven. Prophet Jonah(as) got disheartened by this and decided to leave for another country. It was a mistake on his part, but it doesn't mean he was not masoom as Allah Himself says he was a noble prophet.

Secondly, my understanding of adam and the punishment prescribed is not literal but metaphorical. I believe that the first human is also referred to as Adam and the first messanger is also referred to as Adam. There is a difference. First human refers to the first being in the cycle of evolution that could be referred to as human. The first messenger however refers to the first person capable of recieving the message of Allah.

I do not believe the janat referred to here is the real janat, but rather the janat of the pleasure of Allah. As many aoulya-e-karaam have said, once a person reaches an extraordionary degree of iman, he doesn't care for actual janat but is happy with the pleasure of Allah. Such a person doesn't do any gud deed to gain janat or avoid a bad deed due to a fear of punishment. In fact such a person does everything for the pleasure of Allah and is referred to as nafs-e-motma'inna in Qura'an. So Allah's displeasure is a source of great pain and suffering for such a person.

Neither is the fruit referred to here in itself bad. Its the fact that they did somthing which Allah had prohibited because shaitaan misled them.

And lastly, a person granted full pardon by Allah is like a newborn baby whose sins and mistakes are all washed away. Adam was forgiven and is referred to as a noble prophet of Allah as such he was masoom.

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AOA,

Chachaa Ghalib has done very well and have very brilliant answers to the questions ........................

US-resident if u can come up with any other answers u r free to come up with, u r FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE do not confine urself to the bonderies ( as u think already set by me).....................

Quran invites u several times to think and explore.............. and one says no do not ............. Beyond my understanding................................
We may not be able to solve certian issue but that does not mean answer/logic does not exist...................
U can close eyes and have faith but if u open ur eyes and have faith is far more superior and better or simply the best..........so i am not hindu, though i have no hate for any human being the follower of any religion including hindu...........as long as he excercise his freedom of choice and allow me to use mine,,,,,,,,, if not i will try to educate him not fight or blame him or his religion...........So my dear bro I forgive u ......... Allah (swt) may bless u with Baseerat................finally my bro "kabootar kay ankhay band kar lainay say billee chalee nahee jatee" --- so by closing eyes and running away or avoiding questions will not help....................
and as for as qudrat or qadar is concerened muslim scholars already have three different doctrines or opinions called Qadriya, jaberia and mix/both........

Rest of the answers are good too, and it is not the feeling of wining or being right ......but participation with good and true moral ...............

once again I loved the answers from chacha ghalib and seems to me that i may start calling him chachaa too........ with respect.............
as for as massom is concerened ........ if prophet or nabi make mistakes then his leadership is in question, thus to be an ideal ( that is perfect as idea) and followed one needs to perfect especially in the guidence of Allah (swt).............

armughal 2nd answer is in the right direction........ good show
and ume zafeerah has nice try

thanks
wasalam